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  1. Good meeting tonight...Kurtz,Bewley and Lidsey superb...Kurtz is the most improved rider out there at the moment .

    Doyle looked incredibly slow..he was working furiously on his bike and eventually rode a different one which was no faster

    Sayfudinov was a joy to watch..Great to see that quality of rider in Britain

    I actually thought Ben Barker and Keynan Rew rode very well for little reward but King was a big disappointment

    Good meeting though

     

     

     


  2. Nielsen was a great rider and probably the best I saw.. The first meeting I saw live was 1978 at Hyde Road.. 

    Regarding Nielsen v Gundersen.. I would say Nielsen was the better all round rider and certainly a better team rider.. probably the best team rider I saw along with Ermolenko.. I think Gundersen on the big nights was quicker though and around Hyde Road was quicker than Nielsen consistently.. Gundersen was for me the best visiting rider I saw around Hyde Road along with Kenny Carter.. Some of the wide lines Gundersen took were amazing but day in day out on every track I'd say Nielsen was the best and most consistent rider I saw in my day since 1978..

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  3. Cradley 83 was the best team I saw in all my years attending speedway... They were probably too good if you watched them every week though I would say... 

    Didn't they lose Wigg, Grahame, Ravn and Pedersen to the points limit the following season ? 

    The Ipswich side a good few years later was very good as well with the top 4 of Rickardsson, Gollob, Louis and Nicholls... I wasn't actually attending reguarly at the time but did travel to the odd meeting just to see that Ipswich line up..... 

    But Cradley 83 for me was the best I have known 

     

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  4. I remember Soldier Boy at all Hyde Road meetings after I started going in 1978...Ole Olsen was certainly his favourite from what I remember and I can recall Olsen winning the second half at Hyde Road and going to the fence to give Soldier Boy his trophy...Always stood at the tapes and was very vocal.. 

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  5. On 11/14/2019 at 3:24 PM, moxey63 said:

    I was just thinking of the 70s at Belle Vue. We had Les Collins, Chris Turner, Jim Brett, etc doubling up. But they were riding in the second division with the intent of moving into the Aces' team a year or tow later.  

    What about Steve Finch or Steve Wilcock or Rod Hunter.. They doubled up and never had intention of signing for the Aces. 


  6. First meeting I saw was Belle Vue v Hull in 1978...I can't remember all 4 riders but certainly Alan Wilkinson, Chris Turner and Ivan Mauger.. and a Hull rider I cannot remember.. . Pretty certain Wilkinson won it and not Mauger... I think Mauger only got 7 points if I remember.... Peter Collins got a max... In fact it was a good while until I saw Collins lose a race.. It was eventually Dave Jessup who was the first rider I saw beat him round Hyde Road for Reading a good few matches later. 

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  7. This is the best news for British speedway.. Eurosport is a good channel.. Far more reach than BT... available to view on Sky Go if you can...and highlists on Free to air on Quest.. This is news the BSPA should really build on.. whether they will is debatable but they have a great opportunity. 

    As mentioned they do a great job with snooker.. I will watch Eurosport snooker even when they broadcast the same pictures simultaneously as BBC as the commentary and studio punditry is much better... Plenty of other good coverage as well of sports... A big step forward this

     

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  8. I remember Poole dropping to the Second Division and they were very good  in it with the likes of Steve Schofield and Craig Boyce... 

    What were the crowds like then compared to when they dropped down and did they increase a lot when coming back up when Marvyn Cox was the new number 1 if not mistaken? 


  9. I haven't watched hardly any league racing in BT this season to be fair so cannot comment too much on the quality.. I would imagine that the same production team would be used for the Eurosport coverage so there would be no better or worse coverage of the actual meeting.. 

     

    Eurosport as a whole though is a fine channel.. I can only assume those criticising it haven't watched too much of it lately because its tons better than the channel it used to be and would be a fine home for British speedway although Eurosport do hold rights for some things and sub contract out elsewhere 

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  10. I think currently  Eurosport is the best sports channel out there..Since being owned by Discovery it has improved incredibly and I probably watch more than BT or Sky Sports which can both be very narrow and repetitive in its sports, especially Sky which invests so much in football it leaves very little for much else of great interest. 

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  11. When I first started going to speedway in 1978 I only saw speedway at Hyde Road for the first couple of years...so for me that was what speedway was about..no idea about what Eastbourne for example was like so my early impression of riders was based on Hyde Road form disorders some of the southern teams who visited once a year had some particularly poor foreign riders...Henryck Glucklich may been ok ?...I remember him as being poor based on a Hyde Road visit....I remember Uno Johansson coming in for one Belle Vue match and being very poor...I remember Eastbourne coming with Borge Kling and Lars Hammarberg who did nothing at all...not sure if they were in the 64-14 match ?...Emily Sova at Belle Vue didn't last long nut was actually quite entertaining and a very friendly guy..

     

     


  12. It was a great race...but generally the races in the 70's weren't any better than today...today's GP's are generally better racing wise than most meetings back then...I lived 70's speedway and went every week at Hyde Road and quite a few away matches....I was probably spoiled a bit with Collins and Morton but I can remember some terrible strung out follow the leader meetings if I'm honest...today's meetings cannot match the crowds and atmosphere of back then but it can definitely match and better  the racing in many cases and definitely can at GP and world level

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  13. If I had a business in would not want to be associated with comments like that..there are numerous major issues with this country..6 people on a boat is not one of them...why doesn't he just say shoot a few homeless people as well..disgraceful comments in my opinion and not something that would sit easy with me if I had to deal with them professionally.

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  14. Having being on the riders side of the fence as a brother in law of a former rider I would take any statement made by any promoters with a huge pinch of salt ....mind you I would also take any public statement made by most riders with an equally big pinch of salt as well !!


  15. I think you still need riders with an affinity for the club and more importantly riders that the fans can see have an affinity for the club....I can still remember the old Bradford team having a great relationship with the fans , most based fairly local and ready to mingle with the fans..they broke that up for fly in fly out stars like Tatum and Nilsen and were successful on the track but much less so off the track and the whole thing closed for a number of reasons.

    Losing Cook is a big mistake..

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  16. I'm a fan of individual leathers..as a kid that was a highlight for me , picking out and knowing riders by their own leathers and colours....team Kevlars kook smart for sure but it all looks a bit bland with all the riders looking the same...

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  17. 2010 is hardly the golden period people keep going on about...people go on about racing from the 70's and 80's and the current GP meetings can beat nearly all of these meetings in my opinion...they were probably good in 2010 as well but I cannot remember but I attended 100's of meetings at all levels in the 70's and 80's and today's GP meetings can beat most of those.....League racing in England is different matter however..


  18. GP speedway racing is actually better now than ever I would say...most GP's are better than any meeting I can remember from the 70's and 80's

    However both my son's have zero interest in speedway..and that's despite having an uncle that rode in the top division in the 80's and early 90's....but they are huge F1 fans...in fact my 13 year old could describe every car, every driver, every track ..and my 20 year old went to Silverstone this year for the first time and came back buzzing...ask them to stay on the same room when I'm watching speedway on TV and you've got no chance....

    So I don't know what the answer is 

     

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  19. Nielsen was a great team rider..especially in his Oxford days when he was probably at his very best in that era, I think the best rider I've seen over a range of tracks I think....Ermolenko in his Wolves peak was a great team rider though , especially at Monmore where he covered every bit of track behind his partner at times ..Gundersen was the best rider I saw around Hyde Road I think and Nielsen the best overall..

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