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  1. Don’t worry folks, your team is sorted as Lemon has just dumped one rider saying he can no longer can fit him in …..well why did he sign him in the first place ? especially as he had turned down two other teams and now hasn’t got a place !

    Great way to treat the kids.

    No wonder the sport is in such a mess.

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  2. 33 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said:

    But you thought he'd never achieved a 4 average, when the reality is that in his one and only full season in the NDL he went from 3.00 to 5.29

     

    So one season at Edinburgh and one at Belle Vue  makes one season ?

    whatever….

    The lad still has a long way to go to be considered a decent heat leader standard rider.

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  3. 21 hours ago, StevePark said:

    Team to be called Middlesbrough Tigers. Number 8 is Katie Gordon.

    Ben Rathbone also named, so too Jamie Halder and Elliot Kelly and Archie Freeman. Danny Phillips announced and as captain.

    Ben Trigger last to be announced. Trigger also will ride for the Bears in the Championship.

    Team Manager Stuart Swales.

    Interesting, no places for local boys Lyden , Davison or Goldsbrough so they must be already signed up elsewhere ?

    Doesnt look a very strong side but then it is supposed to be about development.Phillips is the most experienced one and rides Redcar well but the rest are mid to low averages and a couple of them have yet to get above a four average after a few seasons ( Freeman, Kelly , Rathbone, even Halder ) so they need to impress this season. Sounds like the seventh rider pulled out at the last minute and is heading elsewhere , a mirror image of the seniors !

     


  4. 3 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    Im all for encouragement but im also a realist. % points from 5 rides is a decent return and he did beat Senna Summers which is very credible. The other points were gifts or against a returning from injury Freeman (who couldn't beat an egg that night). Either way it rules Ed out of the Redcar side as he is destined to be at Belle Vue in '24.

    So Belle Vue have seen enough to think your ‘Wobbler’ is worth a team place .

    The old adage of ‘ if you ain’t falling, you ain’t trying ‘ comes to mind.


  5. 9 minutes ago, KK62 said:

    As I know that you are well informed your probably not far out but If it’s truly a ‘ development’ league now perhaps it will follow the Polish model and become an Under 24 style league which may rule out the likes of  Crang and Phillips, although that might be a little harsh and as it’s a new beginning probably not required.

    Personally I’d keep them in as their experience would be invaluable for some of those untried newbies.

    I thought you were even more informed as you would be running it ?


  6. 1 minute ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    With respect to Luke he's been around long enough to have sorted engine issues before the end of the season, im not saying he wanted them but his issues were a big factor in Workington finishing lower than many predicted.

    A combo of any of the above all looks likely except for Davidson, you don't get the nickname Ed F'ell without being a wobbler (well meaning yes but still a wobbler)

    Paid seven on his debut for Belle Vue says he isn’t a ‘ Wobbler ‘.


  7. As Plymouth are saying Trigger has signed for the Bears it must be assumed he will also be in the NDL side ( the Cubs ? ) with possibly Mulford if he’s a Bear and not in a Premiership spot.

    so…

    Club assets are Freeman and Goldsbrough so pencil those in.

    Local riders are Phillips, Crang ,Kelly, , Lyden ,Rathbone, Embleton and Davidson. Could also add Bullets riders like Watson , Blair , Halder etc.

    so perm seven from that list. I have no idea about avareges so….

    Id say…

    Mulford, Phillips Trigger, Freeman, Kelly, Lyden, with Goldsbrough or Davidson 


  8. 3 hours ago, secsy1 said:

    Think a lot of people need to take a look at how many riders started their career at Scunthorpe, present and past.

    Opportunities always available for budding stars and plenty of time to hone skills at Amateur meetings or private hire.

    No mention at moment of potential riders, but the following riders could certainly do a job, albeit dependant on averages.

    1.Luke Harrison

    2.Jamie Halder

    3.Sam McGurk

    4.Elliot Kelly

    5.Ace Pijper

    6.Archie Freeman

    7.Joe Alcock

    Probable that 3 of those could be at Redcar


  9. 15 hours ago, False dawn said:

    Sorry if I'm being cynical, but the chairman of the board is promoting a club which is going to hold half the development fixtures of any other club apart from Sheffield.

    Let’s face it, he’s only putting a team in to make up the numbers to keep the NDL going and obviously needed a helping push to do that, but at least that is doing something !

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  10. 11 hours ago, Old Crusader said:

    Does anyone know when the NDL AGM is taking place please?

    Better question would be :” who’s in the NDL ?”……then work out which phone box to hold the AGM in.


  11. 10 hours ago, Redtruck said:

    King, wright, Jorgensen, Bailey, edwards, mulford, trigger? 37.64

    Not sure TJ is going to improve on his current average but with a weaker league he’ll do a job with Bailey & Edwards likely to improve . Mulford is basically starting again but showed promise. Replace Trigger with Hodder as travelling from Plymouth for home meetings isn’t a great idea .

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  12. On 10/23/2023 at 9:21 PM, uk_martin said:

    Allowing for some poetic license in that statement, what's the betting that some diplomatic schmoozing and compromising will be going on to persuade the Isle of White back into the fold?

    None, I would have thought. IOW chose to leave, they appear to be very happy staging amateur stuff , might possibly be joined by a couple of other southern tracks doing a mini Nora ‘league’ racing so why look to rejoin a crumbling ‘professional ’ set up ? ( I do use the word ‘professional’ lightly ).

     


  13. 8 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

    It’s not a matter of the time required to run a meeting. It’s the cost of paying the riders. 
    That said, a 13 heat main event plus a second half had a lot going for it. 

    Is that why 80% of the crowd left after heat 13 ? 
    That was one of the reasons they extended the main match to 15 heats as that’s what the fans wanted.

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  14. 53 minutes ago, mikebv said:

    I remember the old SJL..

    I think all had four heats each in 3 man teans, with six heats in all...

    That could work maybe? 

    Six lads per night getting more racing...

    SJL had three rider teams with three rides each.  The current format for the NJL is four rider teams with three rides apiece.

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  15. 1 hour ago, ch958 said:

    with so few teams in div 1 and 2 it shouldn't be beyond possibilities for clubs to run 2 teams, even if they're 5 man or something, so many blank weeks to fill. Invite some Aussies and young Americans too, 1 or 2 per. team

    That’s not going to happen for a number of reasons.

    The club will have double their ‘running bills’, staff, electric bills etc when the ‘2nd team’ may only attract a very small crowd so it’s a big financial loser. The NDL struggled to find enough riders of a reasonable standard this year so if there were more than 6-8 teams wanted to field a side it would be of a low standard, possibly MDL/ NJL standard, that won’t attract a crowd. If you try this with a 5 rider team, how many heats ? How many rides per rider ? What happens when the inevitable junior gets withdrawn after an injury leaving only 4 ?

    Aussies and Yanks aren’t going to be attracted by a ‘junior’ league.

    The sport struggled to complete its fixtures this year with the small number of clubs so it’s not the blank weeks that’s an issue, it’s the way the fixtures are planned , starting too early, finishing too late as October is no longer Speedway friendly.

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  16. 23 hours ago, Neila said:

    Who has stated they are not running any team ?? Andrew bain said after the Kent meeting they have/are in talks/meetings  with bspa with regards to next season 

     

    In talks, yes as the Championship , or NDL if there is one , needs Workington but he has stated quite openly at practice sessions and meetings he is troubled by the costs of team racing and has said it on several occasions that he would just run practice sessions as they make a good profit and possibly some open meetings to put funds back into the account as crowds dwindled towards the end of the season.

    Hopefully he has changed his mind .  After all the time, effort and funds he has put in he is entitled to do what he thinks is best, but upping his wage bill by ten times and not matching that with increasing crowd numbers has got to be a factor.

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  17. 4 hours ago, MillenTheVillen said:

    If this is the case why isn't some of the "TV Money" being used to bring the youngsters on...The Youth Championship no longer gets payments towards clubs hosting a round therefore half the Clubs don't bother (payments I believe used to be around £600 per meeting to help with Medical Cover Etc).

    Why isn't some of it being used to pay towards Clubs running Qualifying Meetings for each Leagues Riders Championships so every rider named in a 1-7 can Qualify for the Final and make it meaningful?

     

    Everyone blames Godfrey and Co for everything yet the "Top Six " takes all the money and splashes it on big names looking for top up wages who actually don't add to the gate numbers?

    The TV money goes to the clubs that feature on TV, that’s simple enough. The SCB/ BSPL have no interest in the youth or they wouldn’t have withdrawn the funding in the first place.

    Godfrey should shoulder SOME of the blame, he presides over the whole shambles after all.

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  18. 58 minutes ago, Chris116 said:

    So the rules are ignored by Mr Godfrey to the benefit of Poole and Scunthorpe and the detriment of Workington and the NDL. Interesting that neither Poole or Scunthorpe have NDL teams and the memory of how the NDL were treated when IOW were forced out of BSPL sanctioned racing and went under the NORA banner.

     

    This is starting to look like a situation where the NDL could be dropped which means IOW could be joined by a number of other clubs. If that happens it will the exact opposite to what BSPL would want which just shows how good they are at guiding the sport in the right direction and also proves why the sport is in such a mess.

     

    So how does NORA league with IOW, Kent, Plymouth, Mildenhall and Workington sound for a starting point?

    Hardly cost effective for Workington to run in that league with the travel costs involved and he has already stated he’s not looking to run ANY team next season, however strange that may seem.


  19. 58 minutes ago, scunny1 said:

    Been to Redcar enough times to notice when they are losing the tractors come out more. I prefer minimum delay, let tracks evolve and only grade if really necessary. At the EWR, track grader is the promoter, owner and often team manager  as well as  BSP Chairman!:)

    Then you need to go to spec savers as they go out the same amount of times every meeting unless requested.

    We all know who and what happens at Scunthorpe and you forgot centre green announcer slash ref berator and part time sit in track protestor.

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  20. 11 hours ago, scunny1 said:

    Seemed everyone was struggling with second bend. Several riders going into it and virtually stopping to get the bike turned. Tractors did their 26 laps up to heat 13, spoiling the flow of the meeting as usual at the STMP.  Well done Scorpions you did us proud, just the Pirates left to beat to  finish the season off in style- A big ask but who knows over 30 heats?

    Tractors only went out at Scunthorpe riders requests but let’s not spoil the flow of a meeting to keep you happy and your riders unhappy.

    Best team won, good luck at Poole.

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