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  2. Posted

    1 hour ago, Sotonian said:

    It's not just speedway though. How many Asians do you see competing in or watching any branch of motorsport?

    Its not just Asians though is it as far as Speedway is concerned, we struggle to get white British/Europeans to watch Speedway never mind any other ethnicity. The product and its costs are all wrong to attract potential new supporters, to many to list here but if the alleged rent of 4k per meeting is true then Speedway is a no goer at Odsal, I think the maximum rent payable to make Speedway viable at Odsal would likely be in the region of 2k per meeting.

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    28 minutes ago, Ringitsneck said:

    The financial situation and team building is the very same faced by every other club in all three divisions. 


     

    I hate to keep picking you up on points, but the Team building has been imposed (as Barry clearly said in the press release)on the NL not negotiated, so im sorry but its not the same as the other 2 divisions which were agreed not imposed, as for the financial situation travelling to the Island brings added costs for spectators, officials and riders so it is slightly different to being on land.

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    6 hours ago, East End Fan said:

    My My...that is already the case....by a country mile.......

    Dormant meaning not in use such as Oxford, Buxton, Swindon, Somerset, Coventry and now the IOW, not sure if there are any others lying idle at the moment ie Lakeside, by all accounts Rye House has gone or very close to being gone.

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    Just now, Ringitsneck said:

    Yes it has, Berwick and Newcastle. The makeup of the division has been announced with just Belle Vue to confirm.

    There will be no Bradford or any other club.

    No, the new Team would have been new to League racing, but we have lost a Track due to the imposition of rules by those that had previously had no interest in the National League, there only interest up until now was what Overseas rider they could find on a false low average that they could turn into an asset for their own benefit, now they have lost another Track for 2021 and i suspect that another could well follow in 2022, there are ways this could have been achieved other than the route that they have gone down, strict adherance to pay limits would have been one way to achieve this.. and we probably wouldnt have lost another track for 2021, now i suspect the NDL will be nothing more than a glorified second half with one man/woman and his dog watching, but hey its what the BSPL want so it must be right, not.

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  6. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

    Shocked there is no IoW. What went wrong. I thought I hadn't seen much of Barry Bishop recently.

    Mildenhall will need some help from other clubs to put a meaningful fixture list together. It will need a bit of creative thinking but Sunday afternoons in the summer Mildenhall is pretty good place to be. Speedway and a bit of plane spotting - no variety though with the planes!

     

    Im sure Barry will take the oportunity to explain the decision thats been made, not least that it appears the NL has been taken over by the BSPl and brought in regulations that have made it impossible for speedway to be viable on the Island, of course i could well be wrong in my thinking..

  9. Posted · Edited by greyhoundp

    4 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    I would buy a track / venue but darned if i would enter a team into the league. Id host open meetings with riders graded closer to ability levels and practice days to keep the coffers full. I don't see any benefits of team speedway in the UK anymore for rider, club or fans so there's no way i would invest anything into anything that i had limited control over.

    Im surprised no-one has gone down this route, especially with streaming for a small charge to view being available nowadays, in fact i will be amazed if at least one club doesnt go for live streaming at a reasonable pay per view cost in addition to pay on the gate for this season, thats assuming the BSPL allow this to happen without affecting the current TV agreement thats in place.

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    4 hours ago, MattB said:

    Definitely at Dudley Wood.  We used to call the 3rd bend at Cradley "Sam's Bend", he used to come off there that often.

    The middle of that bend has caused a few riders to lose it over the years, Sam was only one of them.. it seemed that when they were riding mid track they either hit some divot or whatever and lo and behold they were on the floor.. seen it happen many times from off Scotsmons bonk... :D

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  13. Posted

    15 minutes ago, geoff100 said:

    Have passed the stadium a couple of times looks small what is the crowd capacity?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Plymouth+PL7+4NW/@50.3905983,-4.0831732,125m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x486cec5a6270a7c7:0x7876ec0529192a46!8m2!3d50.3897364!4d-4.0815281

     

     Well done Plymouth they are being very bold with these 2 signings whose averages will be high, if they can get the 7th team place right then im sure they will do well in 2021, I just hope financially it works out for them as well..

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    7 minutes ago, geoff100 said:

    Have passed the stadium a couple of times looks small what is the crowd capacity?

    I dont know what the capacity is, but if Plymouth have to worry about Capacity then im sure the management will be thrilled. Their is from memory open banking on the 3rd and 4th bends, that in itself will hold a few thousand.

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  15. Posted

    Congratulations to Plymouth, So where does this leave the NL especially the 2 stand alone tracks ?, I have been out of the loop for a while but understood some of the Profesional Teams were looking to run teams in the NL, however the big questions will be of what standard of rider will a more NL Development League  consist of, and will the fixtures consist of a second half type meeting for the majority of profesional Teams ? those in my opinion will be the main discussion points for the NL/NDL to decide, I believe that the standard of rider can be overcome, but have serious doubts that Mildenhall and the IOW would be viable should the majority of profesional Teams decide to have there NDL Teams as a second half of a main meeting, when i say viable i mean in the way that both these teams will be in the lap of the gods when it comes to curfews and such like should the meetings be basically a second half, and i cant see the majority of profesional teams wanting to put on NDL meetings as a fixture in itself. All in all worrying times for Mildenhall and the IOW as we as a Sport simply cannot afford to lose any more Teams from the Sport especially two Teams that have been mainstays of the NL for a number of years, the NL coordinator has some big big decisions to make but has his hands tied by the profesional teams being able to say this is what we want take it or leave it, and should they leave it then its impossible to make up a League with only two Teams.. once again Congratulations to Plymouth on being accepted to the profesional ranks I just hope there can be a way forward for the NDL.

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  16. Posted · Edited by greyhoundp

    1 hour ago, uk_martin said:

    And it's not just this is it? Next time you want to go abroad for any reason, the charges made by credit card companies for European transactions will have increased FIVEfold. So when you book with a European airline (including Ryanair, Wizzair etc) or when you book a hotel online, or book a train fare, or even buy the SGP ticket online, YOU will be hit with these increased charges.

    But hey, at least we've got our country back, eh? :o 

    Next time you talk to a Brexit voter, don't forget to thank them very much. Their vote is what's led to this.

    Just use a debit card instead ;), never had to pay any charges when iv gone to Asia which aint part of EU..

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  17. Posted

    1 hour ago, JamesHarris said:

    Simple answer. The BSPA does not like what they refer to as "Ghost Teams" unless it suits them of cause. There have been a few such teams using such names operating in the junior leagues over the last few years but prior to the 2020 season the powers that be banned them. I think Cradley not running was finally the excuse they needed to remove this thorn from their sides. I think it got to a case where some of the people (not all I may add) running the ghost teams were nothing more than a bunch of glory hunters using defunct names to play real life fantasy speedway. The BSPA gave them a criteria that they had to show concrete proof that they had acquired land to build a new track in the catchment areas of the said defunct clubs but the reality of that happening is like Donald Trump becoming the president of Greenpeace. 

    Things can change though and if Rob Godfrey ever decided it may be good business to run a second team in the National League as either Halifax Dukes or Hull Vikings the ghost team rule would change overnight. 

    Yes you give the criteria, i will just throw an hypothetical example, If Cradley said they wanted to ride at Monmore in the Premiership in 2021 what would the response from the BSPL be ?, Its totally hypothetical as it wont happen.. but i think most of us know what would happen to the Ghost team situation, it would turn into "its for the good of the sport" or some other reason to allow it..

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  18. Posted

    On 1/13/2021 at 7:18 PM, Ringitsneck said:

    If it has its own meetings , separate from the premiership and championship promoters then it runs itself . I do get it has to follow the Bspa rules but then it should, you don’t see the rules in football being different in the Conference division to the Premiership .

    But they are, Premier League allowed 3 subs from 9 on the bench, EL five subs from the bench, however this doesnt alter the fact that the BSPL like to put its spoke in the National League wheel, a wheel which it has little idea about how its run and tries to ride rougshod over whenever it doesnt like whats happening, such as not allowing so called ghost teams, a Ghost team will always attract a few more supporters than the Junior team of a senior team, those supporters simply will simply stay away.

    As an example Wolverhampton rode in the Conference League watched by one man and his dog, they changed the name to Dudley Heathens and we all know what happened then.. If a promotion wants to ride its junior team under a historic name whats the harm it it ?, BSPL answers on a post card please.

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  19. Posted · Edited by greyhoundp

    Whatever the AGM decides its still in the hands of Covid, yes maybe the season can start in May or maynot, but the fact remains that so long as we have the various tiers of Covid how can any League run ? one week you may be in tier 2 so okay to ride, then there may be an outbreak and your moved into tier 3 and not able to ride, then think of the riders that are none British can they afford to commit to all their expense without knowing they are going to have a regular income ?, the British riders have the same issue but without the airfares, they all have mouths to feed and bills to pay.

    Whilst i like the idea of one big League what are the prospects of it being completed ?, maybe it would be better under the current circumstances to go the opposite way and have mini leagues, then Covid permitting the league winners could have play offs, i really dont know im just thinking out loud, but would riders be able to remain competitive with minimal meetings ie maintain machinery versus food on the table ?.

    I think 2021 needs to be treated as a one off.

  20. Posted

    2 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

    Well they are at the moment.............!!!!

    And with there nearest and dearest ie Swindon not running in 2021 i cant see any way that Poole would want to go back up to the so called top League, at least by staying as they are they will have local derbies against Somerset.

  21. Posted

    5 hours ago, RS50 said:

    Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021.

    I think following on from the most recent news conference, I would be saying to fans dont pin to much hope on an Easter start to the season, if the Tier system is still in place then how will that work, Tier 3/4 no fans, Tiers 1/2 up to 2000 fans, basically if the tier system is still in place then we cant really start the season, as an example prior to today Kent, Somerset  can have fans but Birmingham, Sheffield cant have fans, how will that work ?. We simply do not know how this Pandemic is going to pan out.

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