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  1. Started watching this an hour later than the TV start time so I could fast forward through the waffle and delays. Even on fast forward this was a complete abortion of a meeting. Awful stuff.

    I feel I’ve had this moan at least once a season for the last 10 years, almost every time you get a meeting from Lynn on the box, the track is far too heavy, riders lifting and straightening up all over the place, with zero passing after the first bend. Everyone used to bang on about how good a track man the Lynn bloke is (can’t remember his name) and every once in a while you get a decent meeting there when the track is slicker, but 80% of the time it’s pure dross. The depressing thing is that Lynn can and has been a decent track, but instead it’s purposely prepped like this these days, offering zero entertainment value. The bloke might have been decent back in the day, but recent history shows he can’t prep a track that’s suitable for racing for the bikes these days.

    Small mercy that we were spared having to watch him do endless laps in his tractor on the tv tonight, as lots of Lynn regulars have been complianing of recently.

    Dont even get me started on the shambles that was the BV team. Feel sorry for anyone paying to see that tonight.Respect if you stuck it out instead of throwing the towel in and going home to stare at a blank wall in the warm.

     

    EDIT - Buster...that’s the bloke. Absolute charlatan.


  2. I was busy tonight so didn’t go, thankfully. Sounds exactly like the waste of time and money I expected it to be.

    Its all well and good saying that crowd numbers need to be decent to put some money in the bank for next season, but what’s the point if you put on an absolute shower in the form of entertainment and expect people to cough up 17 quid for the privilege, denting people’s enthusiasm to do it all again next season. It sounds like the crowd was not too bad tonight largely because of the goodwill of the public after rosco’s words in the local media. Trouble with that is people only have so much goodwill and patience, and it feels that that’s what the sport is largely running on in the UK at the moment, goodwill.

    A meaningless result combined with a system for riders that means a poor performance makes them much more employable for the next season, a track not fit for providing close racing with today’s bikes and charging full price to the paying public that you’ve basically guilt tripped into coming to witness it all, is an absolute toxic mix. How promoters don’t see this and continue to ignore it is completely boggling.

    Any changes to the blunsdon track can’t come soon enough, but unfortunately that’s just the tip of the iceberg for the wider problems for the sport at the moment. 

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  3. It’s a positive bit of information, but I’m not going to be popping any champagne corks after learning the “news” from a shoddy Facebook video interview provided by a minor local news outlet off the back of a misunderstood question. I wonder if Ron spoke out of turn slightly, as it seems to be an odd place to reveal details of something that’s been up in the air for the last 12 years :lol:. Either way, some discussion from the “inside” is better than nothing at all.

    Conversely I couldn’t understand everyone wringing their hands over it “looking like the last year of speedway at the Abbey” or “struggling to see there any hope Swindon  running next year”. There’s been precisely no news and no talk of the speedway stopping imminently. If there is no news, things continue as they always have done. People seem to be putting a “crap” season and some poor crowds (because of poor results and general decline of British speedway) together with the confusion over the new stadium, and coming up with immediate armegeddon. We know Osbourne plays the long game on all of this...it’s been going on for 12 years for goodness sake. Unless there’s any news of note, nothing will be happening immenently. The most important thing for now is that speedway continues to run there. As long as that is happening, it’s much harder to get rid of. 

    The club has been investing in riders recently, and just got a new set of advertising banners made for the 3rd and 4th bends, so they can’t be too concerned with the speedway suddenly stopping.

    Hopefully if they’re changing the track during the winter, they’re trying to improve things for the racing spectacle at blunsdon, to try and get crowd numbers up a bit, along with a competitive team, to strengthen speedway’s presence at the abbey. I really don’t see a long term future for speedway at the current site as things stand, but in the short to medium term, if speedway doesn’t look like it’s going to budge without digging its heels in first, it can only help our long term prospects.


  4. 3 hours ago, orion said:

    Surely Pete it not up to the fans to find riders ..it was quite clear form some time ago that Smith was unlikely to beat anyone so we  might as well  have   given  someone else a chance  

    That’s a fair point. I’ve no real interest in defending rosco, but I can sympathise with the tricky situation. If we’d have ditched Smith after a month or so and started to cycle through the limited number of options as an alternative, most of them probably (que massive assumption) unlikely to do much more than Smith, you could imagine plenty of people moaning that we would have been just as well sticking with Jack and given him time to improve. I don’t think anyone expected Brennan to look as combative as he did. I assumed we’d just have another Ellis Perks (was it him that guested for us and spent most of the time on his backside?) on our hands. Anyway, a pleasant surprise.

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  5. 2 hours ago, orion said:

    I thought we could not  find anyone better than Jack Smith ?

    Not sure if anyone mentioned Brennan as a viable replacement (in any way other than just a list of names and averages that would fit in the limit, anyway).

    Half the issue is probably some of us thinking that Smith would at least improve in his ability from when he first started with us, however that hasn’t transpired at all. If anything he looks worse now from his confidence being shot to bits.


  6. 43 minutes ago, Jonny the spud said:

    Not sure on the others but Adams first heat was a mechanical issue, not a track one 

    A frustrating incident that one. You could easily hear with one minute still on the clock that his bike wasn’t firing properly when giving it close to full throttle, whilst warming up at the tapes. It was inevitable it wasn’t going to make it past the first bend. Really he should have tried to get his bike changed and run the risk of being excluded on 2 mins, at least then we would have been able to put Zach in as a replacement. There were no winners by just hoping the problem would magically disappear on their own. Lost a couple of points through that. Although that was one of the most exciting “races” all season at Blunsdon.

    Enjoyed Tom Brennan’s cameo. Not afraid to really screw it on going into the bends, which unfortunately is a massive improvement over Jack Smith in itself.

    Decent enough meeting in the end, even without much in the way of passing.

    not convinced about Poole for the playoffs and the title at all.


  7. Decent performance from Swindon in the end, despite some poor decisions from the ref for bringing back starts or the middle order just riding through the tapes anyway. Result should have been decided much earlier than it was.

    Surprised to see anyone saying that the racing was good. Shows just how bad last week was. Just because there was a bit less dust this week, the track hasn’t suddenly become good. There was a couple of good opening laps tonight, but aside from Tobias nearly getting past Howarth and Nick ploughing into the back of Morris, there was 0 action past the first lap. Even the quickest riders of night didn’t look like they’d have a hope in hell of making a pass from the back.

    It seems like it doesn’t matter where the boys try and put the bike, they can’t generate the speed to get close enough to make a pass at all. All you have to do at the moment is get round the first and second bend quicker than someone else and then ride mid track and not make any mistakes at all, that’s your points sewn up.

    As I’ve implied before, it’s going to take a lot more than some new shale and a bit of water to make the track good in any way again.

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  8. 20 minutes ago, A ORLOV said:

    If you want all threads full of crap then do that but ignoring them has not and will never work.

    So what’s the alternative then? You keep fruitlessly bickering with someone/something that you know full well is just getting a rise out of people and has no intention of creating a decent point or conversation? So the thread expands further with more crap?

    What’s the point in getting worked up about it?

    the logic is absurd.


  9. Let’s be honest, we’ve seen worse tracks for ridability than this in plenty of meetings on tv before. The dust is a disaster, but let’s face it, there’d be less moaning about it if the racing was any good. The racing all season has been dire though, last year barely any better. No matter if it’s damp or drier than Death Valley.

    If the stadium isn’t levelled soon, the track needs a reshaping and new shale on it to revive it like they did a few years ago. Of course, for as long as there’s immanent doubt over what is going to happen to the site, they’re not likely to be willing to part with cash to do anything with the track. A difficult decision is going to have to be made soon

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  10. 1 hour ago, A ORLOV said:

    Ellis not being able to get past Aarnio was worrying, especially following his brilliant heat win in heat 3, but how much of that was due to the state of the track  

    Well considering that we didn’t see a single genuine pass all night and we know that Ellis has had good speed and made plenty of passes this season already....

    id say quite a lot of that was due to the state of the track.

    It’s not like the track was producing passing every bend and Adam was the only rider unable to work it out, is it?

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  11. God crowd. Terrible racing. It’s been absolutely awful this year. 

    You know it’s bad when you see Morris slowing down Aarnio to try and get Ellis through, but Ellis can’t find anything anywhere to even get close to passing.

    Trouble is with all the doubt over the future of the track and stadium, I can’t imagine that the club will be spending any money on the track at all. It suffers awfully for it.

     

    well done to Somerset for beating what was in front of them, but I thought their middle order was bang average. It was only Aarnio’s heroics (who i wouldn’t mind seeing as a temp replacement for Bellego if it was needed) that spared them from the blushes of not putting away a team which had reserves not beating an opponent out in 10 of the 15 heats!

    Hilarious seeing all the hindsight heroes having a moan about what should have been done about the team.

     

     

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