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That's because more often than not (with some exceptions) they are the best riders. Not quite sure why everyone is so pro sec/one sport. Their actions over the Woffinden affair showed how unprofessional they are.

I had an interesting discussion with regards to this whole project a few weeks ago on a flight back to Portugal. The gentleman I was sat next too has a construction business that is likely to be involved in this project. He seems 100% certain it will be going ahead, mainly due to the involvement of the Man City owners. I meant to post at the time when the info he gave me was fresher in my head, so forgive me for lack of details. It all sounded positive however... but as others have said, these things take time to go through the various planning stages.

Subscribed and all good. Thanks Phil.

Great news, I will investigate now!

As the discussion on the thread is regarding the talk-in, which was to discuss the events of the 2013 season as well as look forward it is very relevant.

Did anyone bother to ask why Peter Adams totally mismanaged the reserves during the playoff meeting against Birmingham? Mis-management that cost the team anything from 8-16 pts?

Don't know what the fuss is about. Lindgren has the best moustache so he should be in. End of.

Thanks Phil, Some interesting info there. I would question the lack of one off purchases with Exact Editions, I can't see how it would cost them or yourselves anything extra. I am sure you would get more sales too as some people just like to buy the odd edition. Looking forward to it though.

It doesn't work like that. You would be accessing them through your own account, which is setup on a particular device. Not sure what you mean here, but if you're talking about no need for paper based subscriptions then at the moment of course there would be a need as many folk would still prefer to read it that way. However many magazines include access to the online version as well to subscribers of the paper version. As I said earlier, you're not printing off extra copies, you're creating a copy once. Also not sure what you mean abut wandering off into BSF land, people who are genuinely interested in the product are asking questions about it. Nothing wrong with that.

There is no automated order processing for an online magazine?? The very idea of that beggars belief. I could go and create a pdf document right now. Put it online and sell it. For one off purchasers I would have to do zero work, they would pay, the money would be processed, they'd receive the document and I would have no involvement. Anyway as you say its good news and I would be getting a subscription anyway, but by not having the opportunity for the casual purchaser you are losing business in my opinion.

I still don't understand what you mean by practical and affordable. Its not like printing numerous copies? One digital edition is created, that can be downloaded. What difference does it make if someone buys one copy or subscribes to a larger number?

Hi Phil, Out of interest, how is a single copy not practical? Every online magazine I have come across has single copies available for purchase, surely once the magazine is created and stored online its simply a matter of paying your money and downloading a copy? I may be missing something and perhaps there are other magazines out there that are subscription only.

Excellent news Phil.

Awful post. Maybe you would feel more at home in North Korea or some such state. Overall, I don't mind Pearson, there are some things that irritate me (as all commentators do, that's natural) and he has made some condescending statements regarding fans in the past, but on the whole he is a speedway guy and does a reasonable job in his role (sometimes an excellent job). Viewers are fully within their rights to criticise if they wish to do so, some have valid points, others as you suggest are just spouting nonsense. For every poster that criticises Pearson, Tatum et al, there are others who praise them. Everyone is entitled to their say and as Humphrey says, it won't have any impact whatsoever on whether Sky continue, don't continue or who they employ.

Hi Arthur, I am not 100% on the details of your 1st question. I am however about to leave for Germany for a convention where they are performing and will be meeting with some members of the group. I will try and get some more accurate info on it. The group is quite large, this particular show had 8 performers, 1 director, 1 lighting assistant so a fair few to spread any profits around. Other shows can contain more performers. Surely the profits for each broadcast should go to the home team, or the teams involved in that particular match. Perhaps another idea if the livestream option isn't deemed viable would be for matches to be made available a day or two later. Most meetings are filmed these days, it doesn't take much to upload those meetings and make them available for viewing as a one-off or to subscribers.

ELRC I think it was. It was fine. Even a one camera production could be done fine. For years Wolves matches were filmed from next to the referees box. One camera and to be honest, you got a better view of the racing than on ANY sky meeting from Monmore.

Clearly you were at a different meeting to the rest of us. 'Most' of the Wolves team didn't struggle. 'Most' of them did their jobs. We got 7pts from the No1 position over 2 matches. That is all there is too it. A normal return from that position, Wolves would have won with some ease. You've been preaching for years to 'bring down the curtain' on Adam, every year he comes back and does his job.

I understand that, but the issue is the feedback has been ignored since day 1. Hence why its repeated over and over.

Guys this can EASILY be done and I doubt the costs would be anywhere near as high as you would be expecting. For some time now I have been a follower and backer of a musical/comedy group based in Chicago called Starkid. They made a Harry Potter parody musical whilst at college, put it on youtube for family/friends to view and it went viral garnering them fans around the world. Since then they've gone on to make many more shows, hardly making a penny along the way as due to the copyright issues etc they couldn't 'sell' the product. Now however, having produced some original stuff of their own they this past weekend for the first time broadcast one of their shows live. There were 3 cameras, all controlled by the director who could switch angles, zoom in, zoom out where appropriate. It was broadcast on www.gigity.tv. They essentially install permanent HD cameras into music venues. Fans paid $7 to watch the show and it was available to view for 3 days afterwards. The picture and sound quality was fine. Now, that exact method wouldn't be a perfect fit for Speedway but as Steve says the technology is there, there will certainly be companies about to provide the technology also. The point is, if a small group like Starkid can do it, then surely the BSPA can. Edited to add.. actually it was the 2nd show they did live, the first one was via www.stageit.com but it was a one camera production.

Which would render the playoffs pointless. Do they suffer because of the playoffs? Do Sweden and Poland struggle for crowds for league meetings? They operate play-offs too.... The real reasons why speedway struggles are documented on other threads, the play-offs would barely have an impact. Really? So a rider racing around a track with no brakes is 'nothing happening'. Ahh ok. You made up the comments to try and make your point, just admit it and move on.

You're claiming the 'same old feedback' shouldn't be listened too. That's ridiculous! The question should be asked is WHY we keep hearing the same old feedback. It isn't just from a few old timers who don't go but from regular fans who attended every week and now only go occasionally also. I totally utterly disagree with your end hypothesis too. I would ask if you love the sport, why do you sit by and accept the way it is run. Folk aren't making negative comments about 'speedway' per se, they are making negative comments about the inept way it is run, the poor presentation, the ever increasing cost, the ever increasing use of RR/guests/double uppers, the awful fixture list, the corrupt decisions. Many of those making negative comments do so because they love the sport and it angers them to see the way it is being run into the ground.

You're not grasping it at all HalifaxTiger. As Tsunami does you are dismissing the views of those that don't go. The very fact they are still on this forum, the very fact they still enjoy to watch the sport but don't go should ring massive alarm bells. What hope of attracting new fans and keeping them if those who love it aren't going? This isn't speculation or pie in the sky stuff, its reality. Fans have been drifting away from the sport for a long time and they are NOT being replaced. Quite clearly the current strategy is not working. You claim that real speedway die hards wouldn't walk away.. I'm sorry but they do and they have. I know of many, many fans who followed their team for years home and away and wouldn't have ever dreamed of not attending. Slowly they began to be worn down by the corrupt way the sport is run, the antiquated presentation etc. Eventually they reached a breaking point and stopped. I may live in Portugal, Tsunami claims my opinion is no longer valid, but I haven't yet reached that stage. I flew over to see Sam Ermolenko ride in the Joe Hughes Memorial meeting and for the playoffs, attended as many meets as I could when in England at other times of the year... each time I come there are less of the familiar faces who have attended the sport for years before.. and very very few new ones. It's the same old people, another year older, but less of them. THAT is a trend that simply cannot continue.

Well I can see the business side of it and from a 'sporting view', you cannot beat the play-offs. Drama, tension, great atmospheres. Its what sport is all about.

I agree, but that side wasn't a 38pts limit side so therefore not top heavy. In a 38pt limit Wolves should be looking a top 3 along the lines of Woffinden, Skornicki, Proctor.