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John Leslie

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  1. In all, how many riders could miss out on a NL team place in the 2017 season? I make it a possible 37 according to the various previous comments in relation to this. Does any member have a crosscheck total please.

    See, you're doing it again. With no logic whatsoever you're writing nonsense that makes no sense, and that you can't back up.

     

    Go on, give it a try. Tell us what on earth your nonsense comment is supposed to mean?

     

    There were 12 NL teams i.e. 84 places last year. There are 12 NL teams i.e. 84 places this year. So what exactly is "riders missing out" supposed to mean?


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    I see some familiar names in your list pete oc. The incredible things is that quite a few of them are better riders than some who have been given team places for 2017. But averages in speedway are far more important than racing talent it would seem. No wonder - as I see it - the sport's downward spiral gains momentum because of this averages ruling which, let's b honest, is all very well on paper. But once the season gets underway and we have teams winning/losing as the case may be by large margins who foolish the averages system is proven to be.

     

    Gustix,

    Can you explain how you arrive at the above conclusions, as they seem to be totally illogical, and not based on any facts.

     

    How is a downward spiral gaining momentum? The NL, in fact is the one league that is operating on optimum occupancy. Whilst the top two leagues would gladly accept more teams, the NL has yet again hit its optimal 12 team complement.

     

    The points limit would appear to have been set at the perfect figure to do the job of ensuring that NL standard riders have a team place, whilst the league is still able to develop the top end riders to move up to higher leagues, and bring in new exciting 3.00 riders.

     

    The team building so far suggests that there are going to be 12 relatively equal teams and a season of high quality racing.

     

    We saw some great prospects come through the NL last year. Bewley, Parkinson-Blackburn, Smith, Hume, Thomas, Hunter, Stoneman etc etc. I'm expecting more of the same this year with Bickley, Lawlor, Brennan, Hampshire, Whitmore, Jenkins, Atkins and more.

     

    So your comments seem completely baffling and totally at odds with the real world.

     

    To help me understand, perhaps you could answer the following:-

     

    What should the points limit have been set at?

    Which NL standard riders are the ones who are going to miss out on getting a place that they wanted?

    Where have averages been more important than racing ability? Name the rider and the average which was preferred.

    Which are the riders who are better than the ones who will start the league season in those team places?

     

    I await your answers to the above simple questions Gustix....

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  3. Sad news.

    Bryn was one of the good guys that speedway relies on so heavily. I should imagine every speedway supporter will have crossed paths with him at some point. Although he was South East, based and I frequent more Midlands and Northern tracks, I still used to bump into him a few times a year. He was always happy to chat...usually about the meeting he'd been at the previous night and the one he was going to the next day.

    Enthusiastic and knowledgable, he loved his speedway, and was equally clued up on the riders of yesteryear and the stars of tomorrow.

    A big loss to the sport.

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  4. Good News Story:

     

    In 2017 there will be a minimum of 26 British riders declared starters in the top division from 9 clubs

    As little as 2013 there were were only 15 from 10 clubs

    Can only be a good thing imo

    That is a good thing, and by my reckoning 22 Brits have been named already with a minimum of 2 each at Belle Vue and Leicester, and one more at King's Lynn still to come.

    So that's a minimum of 27, but we know that, as well as 2 British reserves, Belle Vue are almost certain to include Cook and the 2 Woralls, so that takes us to 30, plus any others that may be named at Leicester above the mandatory 2.

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  5. I presume Woodhall means Ben Woodhull and his brother?

     

    You're asking a lot of a 15-year-old rookie in Bickley to ride in the top 5 and go out in heat 1 against the big no.1s.

     

    Just get someone on 3.01 or just over at No.2 and put Bickley at reserve where he won't be out of his depth and can take 7 rides. Then you'll be play-off material. (asuming you can get the others)


  6. Doesn't seem to be a problem with someone owning two clubs in the same league, but don't think you can promote two clubs in the same league, so Buster will have to put someone in at Leicester to run it for him......Let the speculation commence.

     

    Also, at the moment it looks like Buster is going to own Leicester 100%, but there are several consortia currently bidding for Belle Vue. Could whichever one(s) miss(es) out on getting BV be interested in taking a slice of Leicester instead? Or if Coventry doesn't run, could their operation and team just move across to Leicester?


  7. Disappointing to see Ryan Burton being lured away from Buxton by bigger spending clubs. Buxton have to rely on the loyalty of the riders they find. It's sad when they have their heads turned by clubs with more money.

     

    Expecting other departures from Hi-Edge very soon too.

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  8. Only one has got a speedway bike on it and even that one is a bit naff, the other two are no good as anyone who does not follow speedway would not have a clue what SGB is.

    With the new names most people would think it is something to do with football.

    Exactly.

    Only No.1 is of any use at all. At least it has a speedway bike on it.

     

    None of the others have any reference to speedway at all. Has anyone done any market research with these? I guarantee if you showed them to the public they would assume that it's an advert for Scaffolding Great Britain, as they are the most famous user of the SGB acronym.

     

    This looks like a poor effort from the losing team at the branding task on The Apprentice.

     

    BSPA go back to the cafe and decide who's coming into the boardroom....cos at least one of you is going to get fired.


  9. It's hardly the first time this has taken place. A few years back Scunthorpe and Sheffield shared a team and ran at both tracks.

    ...and won the league.

     

     

    Can't remember how they split things. Will they ride as Belle Vue in Colts racejackets with a Belle Vue manager when at Belle Vue, and ride as Coventry in Storm racejackets with a Coventry manager when at Coventry?

     

    I Imagine it's a disadvantage for the riders having 2 home tracks and 2 different managers, but it must've worked out OK for Scunthorpe/Sheffield when they won the title.

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