John Leslie
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So Belle Vue Colts will still be there, do you think?
Yes. They're at the meeting.
As far as I know Plymouth and Lakeside will replace Coventry and Rye House so the number of teams will remain the same, unless there's any other late applications to join.
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Surely this should be the easiest AGM to sort...
Plymouth and Lakeside in to replace Coventry and Rye House
Set a points limit at about 38.
Stay with the no TR rule.
Don't mess with anything else.
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You should have taken them to a Colts meeting, that would have cost £15
Why £15? Are you trying to rip your mates off and make £5 profit out of them?
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Surely we can pay the debts of by selling our rider assets.
What is the "our" that you talk about?
The assets of the extinct former Belle Vue promotion are now in the hands of the BSPA. They are to be sold off to pay the former promotion's speedway debts. Any excess money after the assets are sold, and the speedway debts are paid, goes back to the former promotion.
At the moment the BSPA have those assets ringfenced to be sold en masse to a new Belle Vue promotion. This is almost certainly what will happen. If there was no new Belle Vue promotion to buy all the assets in one lump, they would have to be sold individually to other promoters
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She'd probably say "not you again".
She said she was too busy eating penis and testicles.....I pointed out that she was voted out of the jungle days ago, but she said "who's talking about the jungle".
Thanks for the info. So Lambert gets 2.5% deduction, but Rose doesn't?
I've now just looked on www.Newcastlediamonds.co and that shows Rose getting 2.5% discount too... curiouser and curiouser.
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Site does show we are only 0.04 under the 40 limit.
If we use what the site calls the "2017 team building averages" you are over the limit by 0.18
if we take 2.5% off Lambert and Rose then you're under the limit by 0.19
Now you say you're only under by 0.04
I'm off to phone Carol Vorderman.
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Thanks.
Wouldn't it be nice if they showed this on the website....or even in the rulebook.
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Can anyone help me here. I don't follow Newcastle too closely I'm afraid, but if I take the line up and averages off the BSPA site I get:-
R Lambert 8.92 S Worrall 8.47 L Lindgren 7.69 L Rose 6.12 A Morris 4.98 D Phillips 2.00 C Coles 2.0040.18
Where am I going wrong?
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TAI ME DOWN WOFFINDEN
Slow me down Hancock
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You mean you wouldn't mind him at BV..
Congrats Starman. Your reading has improved. You've got what he said.
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Taking Coles to Newcastle..
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A dark day for British Speedway.
Hey KKS it'll certainly be a dark day for your hero Kenny Bjerre....Sandhu's nicked all the floodlights from Coventry.
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What I would like to know is - do promoters still post a financial bond to the BSPA before they operate a team? We were led to believe that this was a requirement. If so have the 2016 promotions at B.V. and Leicester lost theirs? If not why not? Out of pocket riders should at least partially be compensated from these funds.
Yes. The bond is used to pay any speedway debts (i.e. riders and other clubs)
If you read the piece in the Speedway Star Scott Nicholls says that all being well, the riders will be paid what they're owed.
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Why would Belle Vue pay his mechanic - surely that should come from the rider not the club.
The way Zagar performed this year, I'd say whoever mechanic'd for him probably owes Belle Vue money!
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Morris/ tungate
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The is no restriction on the number of double-up riders in a Premiership team, there is however a restriction of only two from any Championship team.
What happens in the promotion/relegation play-off if the bottom team in the Premiership share two doubling up riders with the top team in the Championship?
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Surely no new tenant is going to sign up to a lease at 4 grand a week for 25 years ?
If not the council is going to have to write off most of the 8 million it spent to provide a limited company with a speedway stadium in Manchester..
Great for Belle Vue speedway , not great for the taxpayers of Manchester
Think people are confused how these developments work.
The reported £6m-£8m is the cost of the entire development including the gym, basketball hall, rugby pitches etc. The bit that the previous Belle Vue promotion were buying by way of a loan was just the grandstand building and pits area. The council even own the centre green rugby pitch.
The council haven't got to write anything off. At the moment they just own a speedway facility as well as owning basketball, gym and rugby facilities etc. it remains to be seen if the new promotion set out a plan to buy the speedway part or just rent it.
Really it's tiny compared to the £25M spent building the nearby indoor BMX track. That's council owned too. Manchester BMX club don't pay £25m back to use it.
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You've missed Belle Vue Colts, and you've put Coventry Storm in.
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On May 6th, Tom Wooley and Joe Lawlor guested for Mildenhall at Belle Vue, then - Tom Woolley rode for BV - that's his team. Joe Lawlor wasn't a guest . He was a 3.00 rider not listed in any 1-7, replacing a reserve. All perfectly legal
on May 13th, Wooley and Lawlor rode for Belle Vue against Eastbourne. - Again Tom Woolley rode for his own team. Joe Lawlor wasn't a guest. He was a 3.00 rider not listed in any 1-7 replacing a reserve. All perfectly legal.
On August 17th, Ben Hopwood guested for IOW at Belle Vue then - Ben Hopwood hadn't guested on the Belle Vue track in the previous 8 days. All prefectly legal
on August 26th, Hopwood also guested for Kent at Belle Vue. - Ben Hopwood hadn't guested on the Belle Vue track in the previous 8 days. All prefectly legal (He had however guested 9 days ago).
So no illegal guests listed in those instances.
At least you tried to find broken rules...... but failed.
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Yeah, but 10k paid annually is a big chunk, especially for NL Teams, i cant imagine that they have to pay 10k surely not.
It's not £10k.
An EL or PL licence is £2,200 p.a. - That gives a track licence, 2 promoters licences, and up to 15 officials licences. An extra promoters licence is about £250 and any extra officials licences are about £50.
A NL licence is just over £1,000 p.a. again covering the track, NL promoters, and officials.
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I do a good line in Lawnmower engines. Would they help ?
If you left some live wires exposed and went out to mow your lawn in a thunderstorm, it probably would help British speedway, yes.
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Perhaps you should ask them for the evidence. I have better things to do.
If you're the one believing this myth to be true, and quoting it as a fact, you should be asking for the evidence.
Like Jayne Moss, I know that the rule has NOT been broken 5 times this year, so it's pretty pointless asking for evidence of something that doesn't exist.
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Just because a wholly inept and incompetent governing body allows for five previous miscarriages of justice.
Perhaps you should quote the 5 previous miscarriages of justice before making such a statement.
The referee blundered badly on this occasion and should be reprimanded for failing to spot the problem earlier (he had from wednesday to check team eligibility)
But this nonsense about the rule being broken on 5 previous occasions is a complete lie.
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erm...Belle Vue Colts. (That was who you asked about.....unless it was a trick question and you meant Eastbourne. By the way, if you did mean Eastbourne, they're there too).