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1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said:So a team cannot reintroduce an injured rider if the 28 day rider takes the team average above 39.00 after greensheets then
They can and that’s exactly why the 28-day rule exists - and it’s not a facility!
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3 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:It has to be a facility, otherwise the injured rider wouldn't be allowed to come back in with a higher average after Greensheet changes. If Wolves team average went to 39.01 they'd still be allowed to reintroduce Becker after 28 days.
Even though it doesn't appear in the regulations as a facility (which it should), it is a facility for the above reasons.
This is one of those situations that Phil Morris needs to get ahold of quickly. As again, 'Individual Interpretation' rather than 'Matter of Fact' is the norm.
The whole rule book needs hard & fast rules, the problem is, the whole rule book is is "at the discretion of the SCB / BSP LTD Directors".
This alone means the rule book is worthless.
Speedway needs 'Hard & Fast' rules, only at the discretion of Phil Morris & nobody else. Once an anomaly arises Phil Morris decides & automatically updates to the rule book to remove 'Interpretation'.
It’s not a facility as it involves a team declaration - a facility is ephemeral.
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5 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:Nicholls is on a 28 day facility. You cannot have a facility for a facility. If the 28 day rider gets injured at any point the team reverts back to the original declaration.
A 28-day replacement is not a facility in the accepted sense - a list of facilities appears in the Speedway Regulations.
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1 hour ago, hyabb17 said:Tactical call off. Sums British speedway up tbh.
13 minutes ago, mikebv said:I think that there is no doubt that if all matches that are called off delivered a point a piece draw, with no restaging, that there would be a hell of lot less call offs...
Neither apply to this particular meeting though - undoubtedly the right decision with the torrential rain here for most of the day.
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16 minutes ago, tomhaines said:Weather forecast on the iPhone - suggests 1mm of rain each hour from 6pm… I’d call that light drizzle. I really hope for BVs sake that their forecast is right or it’s an expensive mistake.
Agree if you shell out money it’s a risk you take, but what I object to is a meeting being called off on the basis of a weather forecast. Forecasts are often wrong and having kept an eye on it since Saturday it hadn’t actually changed much!!
I guess there are worse cities to be in and we’ll make the most of Manchester! (With or without the rain)
I suggest that an expensive mistake would be to go ahead if there’s reasonable doubt the meeting won’t be completed.
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On 3/4/2023 at 1:34 PM, stevehone said:Ulrich Ostergaard showing on FIM website as having a farewell at the showground on 19th March, is this happening? nothing listed on GB site
No testimonial meeting for Ulrich on that date
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17 minutes ago, Noodles said:From my time following Peterborough
Peter Oakes
Jim Lynch/Phil Wing/Ian Jarvis
Mick Horton
Colin Horton
Rick Frost & Julie Mahoney
Ged & Lisa Rathbone
Keith Chapman
Me! With Mick, Colin and Ged…..Lisa wasn’t a Promoter, just indispensable.Keith Chapman is Club owner, not Promoter.Carl Johnson, Colin Pratt and Richard Greer during the Chapman eraTrevor Swales with Ged 2015 - 2017
James Easter with Peter Oakes
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BRITISH Speedway is delighted to announce the appointment of Phil Morris as its Premiership Chief Executive Officer.
Former rider and manager Morris, who will continue as FIM Race Director at Grand Prix and World Cup events, takes on the newly created position with the responsibility of overseeing all aspects of Premiership business.
47-year-old Morris will be a major decision-maker at the top of the Premiership, both in terms of rulebook interpretation and race-night operations, and the specifics of his role also include an active involvement in the running of televised meetings.
BSP Ltd Director and Ipswich promoter Chris Louis said: “The Premiership CEO is a new role which we all agreed was very much needed and I think the timing is right, especially with what’s going on in the world of speedway.
“We want to enhance the professionalism and integrity of the league, as well as making it simple, transparent and fun for the fans to view and understand, and to improve the product and put British Speedway back at the top of the tree, where it did sit for many years.
“Phil is unquestionably the right man for the job. His grounding is in British Speedway, he loves British Speedway, and he also has one of the top positions in World Speedway, which made him the perfect candidate.
“He will be tasked with making sure the rulebook is as simple and easy to follow as possible, both for those involved within the sport and also for the fans, and that it is absolutely understood and adhered to.
“Phil will also take an active role in televised meetings. He will be on-site and assist with the presentation of those meetings to make sure they are as fluid as possible and that the format is rigidly stuck to.
“The appointment has the full backing of the Board of the BSPL, and we’d also like to thank the other people who showed an interest in the position and were part of the process.
“We see this as an evolving role which will develop as the year goes on, but fundamentally we’ve brought in a top man to lead the Premiership and I think it’s a hugely positive move.
“Phil has seen all sides of the sport as a rider and a manager, he’s never stopped following British Speedway and he has the experience of what is probably for this sort of role, the top position in World Speedway.
“We couldn’t have a better guy on board, and as a league we are delighted with the appointment.”
Morris enjoyed a long and successful racing career over nearly 20 years, the majority of which were spent with Reading, and as a youngster he was part of the Racers’ British League Division One title-winning side in 1992.
After retirement, he team-managed Birmingham to top spot in the Elite League in 2013 before missing out in the Grand Final, and he also took joint charge of the flourishing British Youth set-up alongside current boss Neil Vatcher.
Since 2015 he has held the position of FIM Race Director and has officiated at over 80 GPs along with the World Cup, Speedway of Nations and GP Challenge.
Morris said: “There are three words associated with this role that stand out for me: integrity, transparency and perception, and all of those are big things for me which I feel need to be improved.
“I’m not here to lie to anyone and I’ve already made it clear that I’ve seen some events and incidents over the last few years that I believe we can improve on a lot – and I’m saying ‘we’ here because I’m now going to be part of it.
“I want to do my very best to try and lift levels across many different facets of the Premiership, from club officials and regulations to the visuality of the events we’re staging.
“Hopefully that will then filter down to all levels of speedway, so even though my job is Premiership CEO, it’s something which can benefit British Speedway as a whole.
“I’ve been very lucky to work at the highest level of the sport, so my eyes are probably quite focused on good quality levels of the product, and I’ve always said that speedway is a good product.
“We’ve just got to package it right and make sure other things are acceptable along the way, and I’m very much looking forward to getting started.”- 9
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2 hours ago, 89buttons said:Air fence is supposed to anchored tho when in front of a solid wall which it wasn’t
There was no fault with the installation of the fence, as a detailed investigation confirmed following the accident.
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On 12/27/2022 at 3:34 PM, szkocjasid said:The 25% reduction works in the same way as any 2.5% reduction ever did - it's a Brits average to start the season on. As soon as they ride 1 match there average will be their rolling average counting 2022 & 2023 matches.
From your example it would be number 2 (I've heard nothing official to say it's back to 20 match rolling aves in 2023)
That’s about as official as you can get
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2 hours ago, Bojangles said:Pretty sure Jenkins was Peterborough's No.7 last year after Palin's injury, with Jake Mulford the No.8.
Correct
1 hour ago, RoundTheBoards said:Jenkins came into Peterborough as their No.8 when their existing No.8 Dan Gilkes was injured.
Obviously when Palin was injured Jenkins took over his place in the team, which was the whole point of having a No.8
Correct on both counts
1 hour ago, Bojangles said:So Peterborough had two No.8s with Jake Mulford?
From Issue 13 of the 2022 Green Sheets Jenkins was listed at No 7, Mulford at No 8.
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Just now, JackPells said:Michael Tomlin is his name I believe. A lot of posts on his LinkedIn regarding sponsorship of Peterborough.
Michael TOMALIN
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10 minutes ago, Beirao said:A whole array of averages to quote from. 9.08 seems to be the GSA figure including BPs as shown on the BSPL website, the figure excluding BPs is 8.33 - lower than the 8.52 used for team building purposes.
His season long average, based on 18 meetings comes in at 7.85 or 8.59 if you include BPs. His home averages are shown as 8.89 and 9.60 while his away figures are a less impressive 6.56 and 7.33.
Take your pick !
No, don't 'take your pick'. The ONLY average with any relevance for team-building is the official BSPL Green Sheet average (Basso's final CL average is 8.52).
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34 minutes ago, Fina said:I've just seen on his Instagram that James Shanes signing is subject to him being fully recovered from injury, so what happens if he is not fit?
Are Redcar then able to sign another rider, can they bring in guests, or is it left to others in the team to take on extra heats to cover?
I have not got a clue what the rules are is a signing is not fit right from the start of the season.
Redcar would have to sign another rider.
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23 minutes ago, Fromafar said:Sussing out the track no doubt.Some riders don’t like being in Ht 1.Rules state Top of averages has to ride at No1.,don’t know why though,does it really make any difference.
Putting the highest average rider at 1 ensures that the two number 1s meet at least twice - for an exciting opening heat and a big Ht 13 (hopefully :-) )
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1 hour ago, steve roberts said:I'm guessing that the "Official " average (do "Green Sheet" averages still exist?) does include bonus points (but excluded when declaring a team under whatever the points limit may be) otherwise you'd have the scenario whereby riders who put emphasis on their average (and there have been plenty of examples over the years) would view things very different if bonus points weren't included?
The Green Sheets do exist and are the only averages that are used for team building and any other official purpose. Bonus points are EXCLUDED from the calculation.
Any other average should be ignored, including those on the BSPL website ‘Rider Statistics’ page and those in the Speedway Star.
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1 hour ago, Falcon1983 said:20% of a £5m contract is £1m good earner if you can get it
80% (£4m) of a £5m contract, that wouldn't be on the table without an introduction, is an even better 'earner'. Don't forget, 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing....
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8 hours ago, The Dog said:I was always led to believe that Ronnie Russell took a million from the Sky deal for putting it all together but like a lot of things in speedway, who knows what the actual real story is
1 minute ago, Skidder1 said:Wrong Russell?
Yes, wrong Russell. Terry was the brother with the media contacts.
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2 hours ago, iainb said:There used to be a rule back in the day about a minimum team strength, I take it there is no such rule anymore?
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12 hours ago, NeilWatson said:As the NDL rules force the use of RR and multiple 3 point riders in circumstances such as this there can't be a minimum team points total. The six riders programmed have a combined average of 30.62, which I expect exceeds the seven-man total of the infamous S****horpe team of a few years ago. I'm surprised to see Boughen in the line-up as this meeting will give him an MA I believe.
Combined team now 28.84 with the withdrawal of Luke Muff :-(
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5 hours ago, Fromafar said:The match should not take place with that Mildenhall Team it’s Jason Edwards v Leicester .Though there was a points limit(lower).Maybe not in NDL though.
As the NDL rules force the use of RR and multiple 3 point riders in circumstances such as this there can't be a minimum team points total. The six riders programmed have a combined average of 30.62, which I expect exceeds the seven-man total of the infamous S****horpe team of a few years ago. I'm surprised to see Boughen in the line-up as this meeting will give him an MA I believe.
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20 minutes ago, a4poster said:For individual Grand Prix’s can you tell me what number race jacket a wild card would use or are they able to use their own riding number?
For example Zmarzlik is 95, Madsen is 30 etc.
Thanks.
The Wild Card at each round is always allocated No 16, the Nominated Substitute riders can apply for personal racing numbers.
The relevant FIM regulation is as follows:
Each Rider accepted for the FIM SGP World Championship will be allocated a GP number between 1 and 15, which will be valid for the SGP World
Championship of that year. In general, this GP number will reflect the Final result of the previous year’s FIM SGP World Championship.
In each Grand Prix Meeting riding number 16 will be allocated to the Wild Card rider and riding numbers 17 and 18 to the Track Reserve Riders.
The allocated GP number will be used to resolve any eventual ties were the lowest riding number is deemed to be the better placed Rider.
Additionally, the 15 permanent and 7 substitute SGP Riders may apply to use their own personal racing numbers on their race jacket and bikes. They may choose any riding number with a maximum of 3 digits provided that it has not previously been used by another SGP Rider over the past 2 seasons, the number cannot start with a 0. Riding numbers 1 to 22 are reserved for the use of FIM only.
To request a specific personal racing number the Rider must send an application to FIM within a set deadline. Should more than one Rider request the same number, preference will be given to either the Rider who has a clear history of adopting that number, or if this is not the case for either Rider, then the higher ranked Rider will be allocated this number. Other riders will then need to select an alternative number. Riders who have not requested a specific personal riding number within the deadline will be required to use their allocated GP number.
The FIM SGP Promoter will supply the riding number jackets and it is compulsory for each Rider to wear this riding number jacket at all times during TV Interviews, Draws, Qualifying Practice, Parade, Press Conferences, Racing, Prize-Giving Ceremony and in the pits area.
The covering of any part of the riding number jacket in any way is not permitted. Shoulder lapels are permitted but cannot cover any logos or adverts. Where a rider wears a neck brace, the neck brace must be free of any advertisements.
All Riding Number Jackets will need to be signed out when received and signed back in when returned by the Riders mechanic or representative to a collection point to be confirmed by the Race Director at each event.
The Rider is responsible for his riding number jackets and the cost of any riding number jacket not returned will be charged to the Rider and deducted from the Prize Monies. -
1 hour ago, mikebv said:A bit ironic isn't it?
A Speedway event without many guests......
Thanks Mike for making me laugh out loud this morning :-)
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20 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said:Neil does the same rule apply to an unattached 3 pointer who isn't classed as a guest if so we all missed a trick
I would say so, see (b) in the same rule
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Plymouth vs Poole BSN series 11/04/23
in SGB Championship League Speedway
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With his own team which doesn't invoke the 7-day rule