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  5. Posted

    9 minutes ago, mikebv said:

    Based on the last two years..

    A gradual decline sets in, eg Magic and Dudek.

    All very willing but turning around a downward trajectory is very, very difficult..

    Especially with so many young bucks coming through..

    Many of whom will take risks that the more established riders wont anymore..

    Hope I am wrong, but whem you start relying on wild cards it usually only goes one way..

    Woffinden is a very talented rider and can still turn it on at the top level and he can certainly talk the talk but for me his body language on the bike says he doesn’t really want it enough,  his first ride he backed off going into first turn, did a cut back and then basically moved over to let lindgren through, that’s not the body language of a world champion 

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  12. Posted

    1 hour ago, *JJ said:

    He was hardly alone in this ... CovComp once published a list of riders who had run up a debt with them and showed no likelihood of paying. Possibly one reason why Geoff was so helpful to us was that we (that is, I) always paid up straight away.

    That list is still huge and amounts to around £60,000, it stretched back to the 90s, some of the non payers are no longer with us, some have just retired and gone off into the sunset but some are still riding and have no intention of paying, said this before that if any rider has a debt to a speedway van sales at the end of the season then next year they shouldn’t be granted a license till it’s paid, I know a few years ago this was the case with Aussies but not sure if that still the case 

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  13. Posted

    4 hours ago, screm said:

    He had probably the greatest deal ever, for him anyway, he got the parts but whether he paid for them could is another story.

    I can’t speak for all the spares vans but I do know he had an account at one where he was told a person would sort his bills, I think then garrity was injured and when he came back the person did a runner from speedway, leaving the bill unpaid to this day, I believe it was around £900 

  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, Ray Stadia said:

    He could start off in Grass Track to prove himself and maybe a promoter may give him a chance at a later stage? Also, there is the Isle of Wight? 

    I don’t think he needs to prove his ability, he is a naturally gifted rider and you never forget how to do it, it’s his off track antics he needs to prove 

  15. Posted

    1 hour ago, FishersGate said:

    I wasn't really following speedway much when Garity got put away, so I asked around last week at leicester and some folk explained what had happened and about his release. 

    I actually spoke to ex promoter/team manager on Thursday about Garity just to see what he had to say about his attitude and personality etc. What I will say is I didn't hear one shred of positivity about the bloke. When he was riding apparently his so called 'friends' from the travelling community were entering the stadium without a ticket. They were in the pits and just generally causing abit of a trouble. They were eventually thrown out but apparently it caused a lot of tension between the rider and management. There were other things said but I'd rather not go into it. 

    Now in my opinion this is a really tough subject, does the guy deserve a second chance in life? Probably he does. Does he deserve a chance in speedway? Not so sure. I don't know the guy and can only say what I have been told. I personally wouldn't go near him if I was a promoter/team manager. 

    Garrity for all his sins (and there are many ) comes across as a very personable bloke (cheeky chappie and all that ) and was pretty well liked by the majority of riders but not all, guess that all depended on if you had a run in with him, the people who travelled with him I believe were his family and they were well known for not taking any guff from anyone and were known for causing a bit of trouble, I know there were some promoters/managers in the sport who just didn’t like him and it’s my opinion that those people stunted his progress in the sport despite his obvious talent on a bike by not giving him opportunities that other lesser talented riders seem to get, as I said previously if he doesn’t come back and make a go of it in speedway then I fear the worst for him and I can’t see any other opportunities for him to straighten his life out, does he deserve it ? Well no, speedway doesn’t owe him anything but he won’t be the first rider that the sport has kept out of prison and he won’t be the last, personally I don’t think he will be accepted back but if he is then I suppose we have to give him the benefit of doubt, really hope that he takes the opportunity and it doesn’t bite us in the ass, just to finish, I remember a meeting at Sheffield and after we finished we are in the changing rooms and garrity walked in having had a poor meeting, sat down and said “im going to have rob an off licence on the way home now” we all laughed but looking back who knows 

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  20. Posted

    3 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

    I think his opponents will question whether they will want to be in a race, on a lethal machine, with someone as mentally unstable as he is?

    brick laying, plumbing, etc etc etc.....are one thing....but, one of the most dangerous sports in the world is another!?

    Just saying.....

    Racing against garrity wouldn’t trouble me even knowing what he has done as long as he is drug free however there is another rider who I do think is a worry and certainly makes me think speedway isn’t the ideal occupation for his personality 

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  21. Posted

    49 minutes ago, mikebv said:

    I believe you either have a rehabilitation system, or you don't..

    If Garrity's main way of earning money was as a plumber would he never be allowed to do it again.?

    Having employed ex cons, part of their release agreement can be restorative justice whereby they meet up with their victims and agree to give them recompense over time for their actions, and it is built into their wages received when they start work..

    (Obviously this is led by the victim and doesn't always happen, but maybe in his case it has?)..

    To have anyone saying "I will never go again" though is crackers...

    If you have a flood at your home and are ankle deep in water, and an ex con turns up who you know has commited a violent crime, would you turn him away ?:D

    I am no bleeding heart liberal at all, but you either have a system that rehabilitate's and your slate is then clean when your time is served..

    Or you don't...

     

    I really do hope he going to go on the straight and narrow now, not sticking up for him or justifying his crime in any way but he is not the first rider to attack and I use the term lightly another person and return to racing although the others may have escaped a prison sentence for their crime, anyway not sure how fans would react to him but in garrity’s world if anything can rehabilitate him it’s speedway, if that fails for him, I fear the worst 

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