ImpartialOne

Yes that is what i meant by it. I don't support a particular club, but i still have an opinion.

my point is far more relevant than the above. Simple fact: If you feel you aren't getting justice you challenge it. No matter what the situation.

Why? You support Aces. I support Speedway. whats your problem? Its only a guess but i suspect Bananaman isn't really a banana, Hyderd doesn't live on Hyde Road, Lady luck doesn't have much luck, Eastern Wolf probably doesn't blow houses down and Custer mouse doesn't live in a skirting board.

i didn't say "make up a scenario if you were Coventry or Peterborough Speedway at a promoter's AGM", i said if YOU were being treated unfairly in ANY situation, what would YOU do?

Clubs. And while i suspected your response was in jest, Steve's certainly wasnt!

you have never been treated unfairly in your life?

i don't believe he was.

neither does yours. it's a simple question. if you feel you are being treated unfairly, what do you do?

Interesting viewpoint from you both! So you would walk out just like Coventry and Peterborough did! No further questions, your honour.

It can be whatever you want it to be, but if you aren't happy about something you don't just take it. A company could vote in something that could affect your job, does that mean you have to go along with it? And by the way, rules are not voted in by all parties, they are voted but only the ones for it vote it in. And in this instance, 2 parties were missing in certain votes.

Ok if you want to go down that route, you have to see it from both sides. Lets make it simple.. So, if you were working for a company who continually made life hard for you and operated in a way that you felt was unfair towards you... What would you do?

And all nonsense of course. We've moved on from the walk out, or "storming out" as you like to dramatise it as. We've moved on from them being alienated. Keep up Steve. And tell me how and why their positions are untenable...

Again, the only current fact we know is that there are 3 parties inolved who at present are talking things through in the hope of a solution. So unless you know more than that there is nothing more to say.

Be careful with your wording there. That is exactly how this whole thing has gone from a few bare facts to 90 pages of opinion dressed as facts. The only current fact we know is that there are 3 parties inolved who at present are talking things through in the hope of a solution. So unless you know more than that there is nothing more to say.

Well obviously it can be as there have been lawyers involved. My point was how can you possibly know everything that has happened?

You didn't answer my question.

So who was bullying who then Steve? Do you know? No. Do i know? No. Stick to the facts. If we take out everything on this thread that is pure speculation we'd be left with about 3 pages.

How can you possibly know this?

How can anyone argue that a watered down league where riders are told where they have to ride and clubs are told who will ride for them is in the interests of increasing competition? More like decreasing credibility.

Have you never heard of a legal case before? Of course you have. Have you ever noticed that in all legal cases, people are not allowed to reveal details of the case apart from what they have been told they can? Of course you have. The only people treading on dangerous ground are those who can't wait to jump to conclusions.

Talks are currently ongoing between all 3 parties to resolve the issues. There is nothing to spin.

Absolutely.

His real name is Colin Cooke. Sorry Colin.

First one voice in your head says he knows nothing, then the other voice says he may know something. Then you claim he is directly involved with the Coventry promotion having said he knows nothing. You appear to be "tied in knots". Also, as has been pointed out to you previously, neither party asked for mediation, Coventry offered it. And yes, you were both wrong on that account.

Colin you're wasting your time trying to talk sense on here. people like Bigfatdave and Shovlar will argue with anything, then either fail to back up their argument, or back it up with nonsense. What is that saying? BBB... Bull**** Baffles Brains.