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  1. Posted

    24 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

    And would it have made a difference to have voted Labour into power at the last election? Of course it would. Along with free broadband to stream all your speedway for free, you'd have had sparkling new stadiums, free admission, free programmes for all, in fact free everything...innit? You did believe all that, didn't you? That you'd have got free everything by voting for Comrade Corbyn?

    The irony of this post knocking socialism and Corbyn specifically when its socialism that has in effect saved millions up and down this country in the last 5 months :unsure:. 

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  2. Posted

    1 hour ago, E I Addio said:

     


    No, it was actually  Hawk 127 that started the ball rolling by say bangers and stock cars could run because they are classed as amateur sport. He then said you couldn’t make it up but he obviously did because it appears not to have been true. Then Bandit 59 seemed to have r believed it’s done you jumped on the band wagon by saying it was the Government

    The guidelines are indeed a little complicated to the layman and we may or may not agree with them but make something up and then politicise it on a sports thread is both misleading and out of order.

     

     

     

    At no stage have I made anything up on this thread to politicise. It was another poster who suggested stock cars were allowed to run due to it being an amateur sport. It is my opinion that it is wrong for stock car racing to be allowed to run with fans when speedway is not afforded the same luxury. It is also my opinion that it is entirely the governments decision on when all parts of society reopen and that they will base those decisions on what they can gain from each individual case. Not sure what exactly in anything I have posted you could possibly have deemed out of order.  

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  3. Posted

    5 minutes ago, E I Addio said:

    I’ve just looked at the Governments guidelines but as far as I can see it doesn’t draw a distinction between professional and amateur sport. As far as I can see the guidelines are all about crowds and social distancing . Even the British Speedway website talks about October being the target date for crowds, not because it is an a professional sport. I looked at the Ipswich Stock Car website and that says advance tickets only so obviously social distancing is relevant there.

    I might have missed something so can you give us a link to where it says amateur sport is allowed but not professional.

    I used the stock cars at Ipswich as an example I did not generalise that ‘all amateur sport’ is allowed. Horse racing is to welcome fans back to Goodwood in a few weeks and thats professional. This government pick and choose which sports they are allowing to reopen based on how much it benefits them. And more likely in my opinion which industries ministers will receive the biggest back handers from to make it happen. 

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  4. Posted

    10 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

    Some rather strange comments on here..... transferring blame to “The Government” As though it would be any different if we had some other bunch in “The Government” ?? 

    Most of British Speedway’s  problems date back pre Covid World War, this war has just highlighted their  perilous state. 

    Sounds like the moans and groans after a meeting has been  rained off after a cloudburst , and you stand around for an hour with false hopes that miracously the track will dry out. We are told that the meeting is definitely ON ON ON ......and then suddenly it’s OFF. 

     

     

    How is it anyone’s fault but the government? They are the ones making the decisions on which industries reopen and which don’t. Stock car racing at Ipswich is fine but no Speedway, how’s that work? 

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  6. Posted

    1 minute ago, racers and royals said:

    Can`t see any mention of " season ticket refunds" plenty of mentions about all sort of other things !!!

    Scary to think how many fans wont receive their money back because clubs have already spent the money but then may have gone bust or closed by the start of next season anyways. Got to feel for those that have shelled out their hard earned.

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  8. Posted

    1 hour ago, christalan said:

    I believe this season will not be able go ahead so I suggest the BSPA have a meeting to cancel this season altogether like many other events have throughout the UK then all riders etc from abroad can return home.

    That would be working on the assumption the BSPA give a damn about anyone but themselves and their own goals.

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  9. Posted

    33 minutes ago, col69 said:

    my pal robinis not a clown and does not tell me wot to post on here mmmmmmmm

    We both know thats not true. You as a man in his 70’s are his only pal. Thats why he sits in his room at Digby telling you what to post because its the only joy he has. As I said, well matched. 

  10. Posted

    33 minutes ago, col69 said:

    grow up min and get back to your comics

    Lol what a clown you are. Robin should really post all the drivel he gets you to post himself. He must be back to being a speedway lover again for a couple of months at the moment as he’s started posting again. You two are very well matched. 

  12. Posted

    3 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

    Sorry,that really is a disgusting comment. If you do feel vomit in your mouth reading articles I suggest an urgent trip to the doctors. There are limits, even in this cesspool. 

    If that comment offends you so much perhaps you should go and read a child's magazine instead. I was merely highlighting the ‘sickening’ amount of brown nosing that certain posters on here carry out on the club website blog. Absolutely harmless comment. 

  18. Posted

    8 minutes ago, acef said:

    Sorry to revert my word but I just feel the need to pick this one up.

    You say you can acknowledge good speedway. Based on the following I’m going to argue that you can’t:

    You mention Sunday and Tuesday so I’m going to assume you are making reference to Sweden and Poland, am I right? 
     

    BV. The only one in the UK you appear to be willing to accredit?

    You see in my opinion, sir, that is the very definition of being unable to acknowledge because it seems to me you are deliberately ignoring the tracks I have previously raised to you, so I’m going to politely ask the following.

    Do you agree that:

    Swindon/Scunthorpe/Glasgow/Somerset and Peterborough produce quality racing, and if not, why not?

    I don’t wish to be obtuse, I’m just really keen to understand why you would think those tracks don’t produce the excellent racing they clearly do, and if you do why you haven’t included them in your argument about ability to acknowledge.

    Thanks.

    Bottom post on page 43 I stated that I agree with you that the tracks you had mentioned provide good racing. Hope this clears that up for you.

    Thanks.

  19. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Dave Goddard said:

    Please don't turn this into yet another slag-the-commentators thread.  (Although I expect it will, because you've got to listen to me again tonight ;) )

    Should have no bother giving a good commentary from Czestochowa tonight. Cracking racing track and riders in both teams not afraid to mix it. Should be a belter I can't wait.

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  20. Posted

    Just now, acef said:

    Then, respectfully, we will never agree on this matter so I’ll leave it alone after this one.

    Quite honestly you sound like a bit of a stature snob which is a real shame because it’s impacting your ability to acknowledge good speedway racing because it wasn’t delivered by a world superstar.

    You are also introducing other aspects again which is not my argument. It has only ever been about the quality of racing and the human beings under the helmet.

    Cheers.

     

     

     

    Absolutely not a stature snob what so ever. I was a regular at Speedway in this country until I felt like it was no longer any value for money.

    I'm also absolutely able to acknowledge good speedway when I see it. Every Sunday and quite a few Tuesdays and whenever BV is on BT.

    Cheers.

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  21. Posted

    2 minutes ago, acef said:

    What does it matter who the people are in providing such quality entertainment?

    Im not really arsed if the race is between two top polish riders or two top British riders. If the end result is excellent racing, why does that even enter your debate? It makes no sense to me.

    Im well aware of what the product offers in England and I have acknowledged this. What I’m asking you to do is remove the fluff and just focus on the quality of racing. That is my argument here and you don’t seem to be doing that.

    I have listed a number of UK tracks that produce good quality speedway so I can’t buy into the thought train that ‘we’d never see it here’, because we do. Clearly. I’m not interested in the who, I’m interested in the what.

    The quality of the actual speedway racing really isn’t much different as I see it. Yes, there are rap tracks in the UK, not going to argue that. My point is there are also good ones.

    Of course it matter's who you are going to go and watch. You wouldn't pay £100 for a ticket to go and watch Kidderminster vs Ebbsfleet but you may consider paying that to watch Barcelona vs Real Madrid.

    I agree that the  tracks you mentioned  do provide good racing but for me the general contempt fans are treat with here with I just wouldn't give a promoter here my money. 

  22. Posted

    5 minutes ago, acef said:

    I think you have somewhat misunderstood what I have said. The general package in Poland is so much better, I absolutely don’t dispute that. As a tv experience with full crowds or being in Poland watching, which I have, it is an entirely different experience. A better one.

    However that shouldn’t discredit what we have here. If you remove everything by the side and just concentrate on the actual speedway, there are tracks and certain meetings in the UK which offer entertainment to the equal. Belle Vue is an excellent track, one of the best in the world, but so is Peterborough. So is Somerset. So is Scunthorpe. So is Glasgow. Kings Lynn has great potential but is unfortunately prepared for his main money stream, stock cars. Poole is also a great shape and I have seen some brilliant speedway there, it’s badly prepped.

    Your above post is a good summary of exactly what is wrong with the British fan. This need to divide and conquer is a really sad state of affairs. It removes ones ability to enjoy something which can be good because everyone else says you can’t.

    Can you assume I didn’t enjoy heat 7? Absolutely not, because it was one hell of a race and I said as much in this very thread.

    Stop being so down on the positive elements of British Speedway. A large chunk is indeed a mess, but parts are still excellent and I feel for those who cannot see the wood for the trees.
     

     

    I fully understood what you said. You said 'The quality of racing and general meeting progression, well as a man who attends BV each week.....it was worse'. 

    Whilst I agree the meeting from Rybnik was rubbish (alot to do with the weakness of their team) the Gorzow meeting for the first of the campaign was excellent. You"d never get to see BZ and Pawlicki going head to head like that in the UK and as I said that's what I like. 

    In this country the promoters generally just take fans for mugs. Unannounced riders missing or riders that cant be bothered or just shouldnt even be riding speedway in the first place. Also, look how weak the product here is now. The elite league is just a glorified premier league these days but tracks charge £17-20 for the privilege of watching and expect fans to be grateful.

    The only track I've paid to go and watch in the UK in the last 5 years has been BV which is fantastic so I do understand why you enjoy watching speedway there every week. 

  23. Posted

    5 hours ago, acef said:

    The quality of racing and general meeting progression, well as a man who attends BV each week.....it was worse.

    And I also believe, so far this weekend, that I have seen better meetings run in more timely fashion across the UK. 
     

    Equally imo, anyone who fails to see that should also ‘give their head a considerable shake’.

    You are lucky then if you get to watch BV every week as its the best track in this country by a million miles. However, for me, I prefer watching the worlds best riders riding at 110% every week in Poland not just seeing journeymen going through the motions or James Sargent breaking the tapes 4 times per meeting. Would be boring if everyone liked and wanted the same thing I suppose. 

    Can I assume you didn't enjoy heat 7 from Gorzow ?

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  24. Posted

    Really enjoyed the second meeting after the shambles from Rybnik. Good first effort from Gorzow without NKI against easily the strongest side again. When Zmarzlik gets going I think Gorzow will have a decent season. I thought Thomsen acquitted himself well and Wozniak as ever is a strong road block if he can gate. KK just same old frustrating KK. Leszno again going to be tough to beat. Emil and Piotr so strong with great backup (generally) from Kolodziej and then the bundles of improvement still to come from Kubera, Kurtz and Smektala. Personally don't mind there being no crowd as I'm only really interested in the quality of racing. Anyone saying this is on a similar level to Britain needs to give their head a considerable shake.

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