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in all honesty i doubt there's any more to say - Alan F has it in a nutshell unfortunately more will be said

yes you have a point

no thats not it - i just got sucked in and i dont know why cos i really dont care. I'm not name calling - the average modern consumer is an idiot. There is no argument to be had they're here to stay. Sorry to bother you.

actually i dont know why i responded to this - i couldnt give a fck whether there are play offs or not i suppose gimmicks are needed to grab the attention of the modern idiot anyway they aren't going anywhere so this discussion is moot

thanlk you for telling me i'm wrong. So the right answer is....?

there is an outstandingly easy answer to this: - top of the league = champions, top 4 - play off competition - call it what you want. Everybody gets what he or she wants As a slightly side issue i can't help feeling that the attitude to winning at all costs has co incided with decline - once it was 'a night at the speedway' - win or lose

be nice to have the cup final at the National Stadium and make it a big event - perhaps over a weekend with PL Ko cup final and maybe even NL final on the Friday night

OK ban him lets move on FFS

i dont want to i just want this ludicrous thread to end

well they can lets move on

Nicholls has the unarguable right to wear the race jacket but wont perhaps direct your crap at him - Tai turns up and races

sorry to go slightly off topic but this whole loan business is ridiculous and i'm fairly sure wouldn't stand up to EC employment law scrutiny. You can't stop people working. Kus doesn't 'belong' to anyone, he's a freelance motor cycle racer and should be able to ride for whom he chooses.

more importantly i think his and everybody else's ire should be reserved for those who make themselves unavailable for selection for GB - at least Woffinden turns up and rides

Why dont you forward a cogent argument for your statement rather than a load of Daily Mailesque rubbish

I completely agree

i think you have to realise GB's position in the speedway world - poor relations. We can't dictate anything - we either fit in with the rest of Europe or forget many star riders. I think it would be a bold move but at least it would be a move - better than doing nothing. EL Mon and Weds, PL the rest of the time. Lets get behind it

the north south split is totally unnessessary as its not really travel costs that is the problem plus it would be really boring - one big league at pl level for me might lose some big names but such is life

http://www.chorleyfc.com/index.php/news-menu/club-news/2454-dual-registration-what-does-this-mean have a click on this - perhaps speedway is not the only sport to share

play offs are going nowhere - this argument is dead - they fetch in far too much money - you may not like them but thousands do

thats not quite what it says is it?

offer free tickets to those who apply and give mob number/ email address and market to them free of charge every week if they have applied, even for free tickets, they have some interest or curiosity so that can be developed. Regulars who would have paid anyway have given you their contact details so you know who your customers are and you can market to them regularly, maybe with discounts for less attractive fixtures, etc TBH its beginners marketing - just needs a bit of work of course when they turn up they have to see a credible event without 'borrowed' riders, delays, bad track prep, etc

it needs to compete with whatever else is available for the money - a tenner is the pictures, bowling, 3 pints, non league football

they don't have to fold - riders used to use their annual leave for meetings, half days, part time work, understanding bosses - not easy i know but the sport can not afford pro riders at pl level and below. as a matter of interest though which pl clubs could positively not run on Fri, Sat or Sun? even if it meant a change of regular race night

i agree it can be done in dozens of ways- i wrongly assumed you were referring to reduction in EL standards

maybe but who is going to take the financial risk with their own or their businesses cash to invest in a team full of expensive world stars if it works - fine - if it doesnt theyve lost their cash not yours or mine so there has to be another way cost cutting ideas dont have to necessarily bring in fewer fans - e.g. most fans dont give a fig about the machinery and wouldnt care if much cheaper machinery was used where possible.