ch958
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Looking at the site on Google earth I feel there's room for a Redcar/ Worky site AND some houses. Perhaps if BE were made to build a basic circuit in return for allowing a number of houses it would be a compromise. Whatever happens that big stand will have to come down so what's left would be fairly basic anyway.
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9 hours ago, iainb said:I think it's more likely he's received a massive bung from Orlen rather than him wanting to win it in front of a half full Torun... if it was a deliberate action
i think you're bang on the money here. Torun is apparently sold out but TV viewing figures come into play
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11 hours ago, tellboy said:How the f@<k did all this nonsense manage to find it's way onto the King's Lynn 2023 thread.
there are a handful of posters who are either nasty, thick or professional trolls. I love this forum but these people depress me, don't have the tools to have an exchange of views.
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48 minutes ago, Moranboys said:Well said,the quicker people left the guy alone,the better.
Danny Ayres, Billy Sanders, Ian Robertson, Paul Fry, Rafal Kurminsky etc etc
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we need to be careful - if something awful happens (i don't need to spell it out) one wouldn't want to think they bore any responsibility, the lad is struggling, now is not the time to kick him.
I've had mental health issues - luckily I didn't have random strangers berating me.
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7 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:In all honesty, you’re probably right. I was too busy playing with my miniature replica Lars Gunnestad figurine and listening to Dukes’ fans singing ”there’s only one Andy Smith” to notice. What a stadium, though.
absolutely - without it I wouldn't be here - its where my parents met!
For me, its a GP track, just pull the field in where the structure is, bit of work but not as much as Cardiff
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20 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:Bradford’s Odsal Stadium will never be beaten. Never. The Beatles couldn’t even produce a better track than that.
lovely stadium and track, i went there often, wouldn't say there was an enormous amount of overtaking
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51 minutes ago, Biffa said:So it’s pairs night tomorrow night & as far as I know, no one has pulled out “yet”. What does anyone think the reason for this is, against all the pull out in the CLRC at Redcar. I don’t believe for 1 minute it was the venue, I presume the pay/travel rates will be the same. I know Poland accounted for a few but could it be that it was a Bank Holiday Sunday and riders had league meetings on the Monday, didn’t fancy the travel North or what does anyone think?
if they don't like travel they're in the wrong game
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12 minutes ago, ruckerroo said:Speedway is literally in the same boat as the dogs, prostituting itself for tv money with zero thought for its supporters.
On a previous thread i posted about no saturday track bar berwick, theres an enormous gap in the south /midlands for any track to grasp the nettle, hopefully in 2024.
TV deals are all well and good but its to the detriment of the sport as a whole .
The best supported club in the land are safely cocooned in the championship racing on the night that suits them .
I'm all for riding when its best for the club even if we lose commuting riders, I don't get excited by big names I get excited by good close racing but I'm almost certainly in the minority so its down the plughole we go
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where's Honest John these days, used to enjoy his robust opinions
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next year - rd 1 Ipswich, rd 2 Kings Lynn, rd 3 Belle Vue. 3 reasonably well attended meetings and no excuses Do it over 3/4 nights
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personally i think 2nd wd be ok
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53 minutes ago, mikebv said:A huge difference...
As did bonus points counting to the average..
As did the "gimme" tac sub ride against the No2 and 7 from the opposition in (I think), Ht 6...
The World Class riders rode against each other twice in the main at most, and had two 2 point riders in the match to race against too..
4/5 rides per match off the best of the two gates your team were allocated...
A lot more competitive now..
correct - which puts pressure on their averages and earning potential. In the past beating a top bloke was an event - Mauger, Briggs, Wilson, Ashby et al used to be virtually unbeatable by anyone other that other top blokes. Ashby in a heat with, say, Munday, Cole and Wakefield Swindon v Cradley , would win at a canter usually with only maybe Persson or Trigg to worry him
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3 hours ago, castrolargh said:I think that " back in the day " the no1's only met once, in heat one, and apart from 1and 3 or 2 and 4 there was no restriction on gate position, so nearly always picked the best gate .This made quite a difference to averages too
you are quite correct
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10 hours ago, Chris116 said:Doubling up is a curse of British Speedway but the riders need to race for two teams because of the very limited number of fixtures each team races. The only way to solve the problem is to form one big league with teams running a home meeting every week meaning the rider races in the same number of meetings as at present but they are all for the same team. If we have to run with five man teams it will mean the riders get more races in each meeting which is a good thing from the riders point of view as they can make more from each meeting they race.
And also, heat leaders would prosper because top riders wd be spread out like they were in the early BL days which is how some blokes ended up with 10 and even 11 averages. That wd make up a perceived drop in earnings
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50 minutes ago, kevin bass said:Wrecks um within a couple of laps round Peterborough
which is yet another expense that needs addressing - one tyre per meeting shd be the aim. Somehow
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42 minutes ago, mikebv said:Make the top league the flagship, and make it worth being in, and winning. Redirect some of the tens of hundreds of thousands of pounds currently paid to riders into prize money, which you can then use to market the sport via advertising hype..
If every top league team (seven of them), has an average wage bill of circa £200k then advertise the lesgue as having £1.4M prize money..
Make the teams genuinely competitive with team numbers reflecting the talent pool numbers. Six or Five man teams, and even Four Team tournaments, if it delivers quality, integrity and credibility. Development opportunities should be tier 2 and 3, not tier 1..
Collectively advertise the sport generically rather than all having their own local plan as the only plan. The TV money was tangible additional money so this should be used to market the sport. The Sky money just got used to pay top riders who rode in front of ever dwindling crowd numbers and many cleared off as soon as the money stopoed. They shouldn't let the same thing happen again..
In short. You can never hope to succeed with such a contrived, nonsense operating model being allowed to happen, time and time and time again, ultimately, ludicrously, destroying their very own competitions by their very own hands..
nice ideas but there's a lot of holes there.
Redirecting money from riders? Good luck with that
They tried to make it a flagship. league but they still don't turn up and cutting their money will see the end of Sayfudinov, Laguta, Doyle, etc.
What you do here is illustrate the massive chasm amongst fans: A - chuck money at it and get the names in or B- live within our means and watch semi pro riders.
both have their virtues and both could be the final nail
for the record I'm a B.
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an independent review is the only way forward imo but there'd be so many toys chucked out of prams it'd be like Black Friday at Hamleys.
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2 hours ago, R87 said:Fine. Trivialise something that, if it happened on the street, you'd be spending a night behind bars. Woffinden is an utter disgrace
looks to me his behaviour was reasonable, the bloke cd have been armed. You just seem to have an agenda
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16 minutes ago, R87 said:Should face a long ban and a criminal assault charge. Despicable behaviour from someone who should no better.
coming from someone who can't spell know
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"I'll just step in front of these 4 motorbikes as they come round, I'm sure they'll apply their brakes"
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nowhere near enough attention has been paid over the years to tyre/ surface interraction and revs/ surface. Would be nice if riders had to use their noggins and use the dirt
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5 minutes ago, Ben91 said:If you’re a youngster starting out in the sport you should be trying to grab every opportunity going in the name of succeeding not turning your nose up at an opportunity because you might only get three rides.
The sport is starting to revolve around the riders. It should be the other way round.
'starting to'? !
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