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  1. Posted

    1 hour ago, steve roberts said:

    What I've seen on DVD (only went to Bradford once) it struck me that although the track was very wide and heavily banked much of it offered no advantage after the first two bends from the start? I'm happy to be corrected by those with a better knowledge of attending meetings at Odsal.

    no, you're correct, you would imagine it cd be fixed with good prep though

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  3. Posted

    6 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

    But as has been said umpteen times, the building superstructures and the dimensions of the rugby pitch mean that it isn’t cost effective for ANY promoter, club or FIM , to try to run speedway at Odsal. 

    As for better location ? It might be for northern based individuals but people travelling from abroad? I’d rather go to Cardiff, despite the rip off hotels and I live really close to Bradford compared to Cardiff.

    talking about gp 1 and 2 not league

  4. Posted

    You have to construct a whole track from scratch at Cardiff. At Odsal you could pull the line in temporarily for a fraction of the cost. Daresay it would be cheaper to hire, cheaper to stage, better track, better location. 

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    for me its ££, and the reason i don't attend league football (although they don't seem to be missing me)

    at the risk of starting a whole new row - £12/14 max and find a way of making it viable through reduction of expenses - not easy i know. I don't care if they go round in rattly old JAPS. Its the market level and you can not sell something above the market value. Pubs are finding this out now - £5 a pint versus 4 excellent bottles for £6 at Tesco, people are staying in. Even cinemas are having to drop prices. Hard to coax people out and I'm one of them

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    13 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

    This is really sad but that said I don’t get why people thought the outcome would be any different, when your going up against company’s with £s and company’s that don’t always play by the rules and on your side you have sentiment, you will never win, as with most things in life the cards are stacked and money talks, sad but life, hope they now look for other land, which if they are genuine about Reviving Coventry speedway imo they should of done back when Brandon shut  

    as should have Swindon as should Peterborough now and, sadly Edinburgh must be added to the list

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  12. Posted

    2 hours ago, The White Knight said:

    Me too Steve, all to sadly, nothing out of the normal though. :sad::sad::sad:

    Ian, have you seen the pictures of the houses, there's absolutely no way speedway will survive the NIMBY onslaught, despite the track being there donkeys years. Any new tracks are going to have to be in the middle of nowhere like Worky. Hope you're well

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  16. Posted

    good ideas.

    If costs are not controlled in ANY business its soon curtains.

    I have a feeling however that the one league thing won't be allowed, people seem to want an 'elite' league, even though its anything but that, myself I think one league the way forward. Heat leaders who currently double up would have more meetings and more chance of high scoring in them thus making up for lost earnings doubling up/ down. Allied to lower machinery costs it should be win win. 

    Who has the will/ energy to make that happen though? 

  17. Posted

    21 minutes ago, Norfolk Bear said:

    I don’t profess to know the answer but one thing the sport needs to get rid of is GUESTS. The Kennet issue at Plymouth has been a disgrace , how many matches has he ridden ?  Harris & Lawson must have as many guest bookings as rides for their designated teams . 
     

    I know that teams say that riders are not available but most of them find someone. 
     

    As I said I don’t know what the answer is but the Guest Fest cannot go on for a sport that bill’s itself professional. 

     

     


               

    bring the CL levels down drastically and have an 8 and 9 from 3rd div. RR for one ht leader, 8 or 9 for anyone else. Div 1 can do what it likes

  18. Posted

    i think most people know Plymouth have played a game with Kennett but I would counter what else could they do? They've shown themselves willing to go out and get people but they just weren't there - same goes for Birmingham and, for a while Newcastle. We really must share the spoils out next year for the good of the sport as a whole

  22. Posted

    20 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

    I don't necessarily think the commentators need updating. I think what's needed is this need to lie when it's a crap meeting. No other sport does it. Football, Cricket, Rugby etc, if it's a bad game it gets called a bad game. If someone's playing awful, they get called awful. 

    The constant positivity has a negative effect. Take Cardiff yesterday for instance, it was a horrible watch, yet the commentary was bigging it up. If you're new to the sport & they're seeing the commentary bigging it up, why are these people going to give the sport a chance? They'd think "if this is good racing, I'd hate to see bad racing." 

    JUST STOP THE LIES, WE DO HAVE EYES

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    agree completely, no one will be making plans to attend their local track after that lot. The essential dichotomy is: good track, good racing, smaller crowd, good telly; or yesterday's serving. My choice would be the former. 

    Having attended 4 Wembley finals, great occasions for sure but not purist racing in the main so its not a new issue

  23. Posted

    33 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:

    Manchester City Council funded the BV track. That part of Manchester, east, has the ManCity football ground (built specifically for some athletic championships maybe 20 years ago) , and close to that the National Velodrome, plus lots of other sporting venues. Chris Morton and Dave Gordon worked hard for many years to get a speedway track that matched the original Hyde Road track…….the site is just a few hundred yards away (now a car auction site). The council came up with the land, it’s area to build on was already determined by a road, housing, school, other sports facilities. The stadium is the biggest it could be. I know how the term National a speedway Stadium was born, I suspect as the council was stumping up the £6 million to build it, and considering the area is a sports area of Manchester they may well have dictated it gets called National Speedway stadium. Whether he SCB or anything high up in speedway had anything to do with that I havnt a clue. The track, as we know, quickly became renowned as one of the best racing tracks in the world, which it is, no doubt or arguing about it……. In the top 5 if not the top 3.

    The track organisers knew this weekend the Cardiff track was going to take some heavy usage with SGP1 and SGP2 taking place Sat/Sun plus practice/qualifying. They surely would have thrown everything at the preparation of the base upwards to ensure it would cope. It didn’t. We saw that Vojens stood up to 5 meetings and practices….a permanent track. Personally, for me, last night sounded a death bell for temporary tracks. Apart from the probability of poor race surface, the tracks are too small for frequent opportunities to overtake. How long the Cardiff contract is for I don’t know, but I want to see the British GP on a permanent track, so no to Olympic stadium (London), no football stadium (Newcastle), just a permanent track where good racing can be achieved. If, at the moment, that means BV with its limited spectator space, so be it. There are now no speedway tracks in city centres, so stop “making tracks”  fit what some spectators want (pubs) and give what ardent speedway racing fans want….. world class racing “out of top draw".

    I suppose Odsal is permanantish, if the inside line was temporarily pulled in so its half permanent, half temp. I've been in there with a 37000 crowd, good road links, a 3 meeting weekend sgp 1 and 2 and British Final maybe or something, an Invitation meeting, whatever. Much cheaper to put on and hopefully better racing

  24. Posted

    3 minutes ago, JanAndersen said:

    Speedway in the UK has no chance if everyone talks it down all the time. I think half the “fans” would be happy if it ceased to exist in this country just so they could be proved right. 

    don't be daft, no one thinks this is good, especially TV viewers who might have gone to their local track next week. If you talked this up people would never go

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