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Better late than never. And I will leave it at that. To comment further would be inappropriate. Let's just remember the guy himself and the family he leaves behind.

Had two wonderful days at The Hundred recently ... Honestly totally stupid to expect anything of that type to be possible with the dullards in control of Speedway

I find it pretty disgusting that the BSI mouthpiece website speedwaygp.com has had absolutely nothing to say about the passing of Mr Rising. The omission should be seen as as disrespectful enough just because of the man's stature in the sport. But when one considers that he has been one of the strongest public advocates of the SGP system and that without his personal support at the helm of the sports premier journal it is doubtful that the whole circus would have seen the success it has. Add in the dark days of BSI cock-ups at Gelsenkirchen, Gothenburg, Warsaw and the Cardiff shale fiasco where Philip refused to sharpen his journalistic knife and stab at the culprits. Instead he chose to play the long game, hold back on public criticism and allow the series to regroup for the greater good of the sport. On top of that he played a great part as Olsen's assistant in the pits at just about every GP for years and years. To not even acknowledge his passing on the public website is utterly disgraceful . Shame on you BSI.

I often disagreed with him on here ... In a very enjoyable way. His view was to be respected and I greatly appreciated the numerous times he instigated one to one discussions via personal messenger that greatly enlightened my understanding of the 'real story' that would not be possible to print. My respect for him was greatest just because he did have the balls to come on here and engage in real debate with us. He did so with the passion of someone still in love with the sport but with the deep knowledge of his lifetime of covering it so magnificently in print. A wonderful combination. His biggest legacy is of course Speedway Star, which PR curated for so long, offering Michelin Star coverage of what is often a transport cafe sport. I trust the team will carry his torch well. Farewell Philip.

I am sure you will have the benefit of seeing Sam at m any more meetings.

That's ok. I dont.

No deff not. I just didn't understand what you were saying.

All of it

What ?

What does that mean ?

Utterly effing pathetic that yet another TV company employs Ermolenko... Why ?

The Arena is looking a 'colourful place now. Battleship grey down the straights and 'dirty underpants' grey-brown for airfence and centre 'green'. Looks class.

Has anyone checked to see if Mr Bates is concious ?

What a weird question to ask ... Surely a bit of thought could have worked this out without disturbing the grey matter too much.

Riders coming out ...

Sound has been fixed now.

Through virgin in my case. It's really not difficult to work out that people usually get access to eurosport via means other than the player.

Well, it is exactly the same.

Videos of Odsal online from last night show crowd obviously well in excess of 2000 as some have suggested here. 4k looks more likely.

Grandstand supports ? I understand that the supports under the 'new' facilty on the third and fourth bends would need added protection of some sort but surely no spectators would have their view blocked there ?

Did anyone actually go to Odsal this weekend and have any first hand into on how the whole thing went etc. ?

What would be your suggestion that isn't in essence a 'points limit' in another giuse.

Complete fantasy land thinking.

Yes I have a similar memory of all that ... The belle vue meeting after the world final would have dragged the 85 average up ... On its own it must have been 5000+,

As some one else has stated the crowd for the 85 belle vue meeting was quite a bit more than half of 6385. But the rest of your post is spot on and just bolsters my opinion that a return to The Shay in the nineties was NEVER a realistic possibility no matter what others are saying now, due to the changes already occurring to the configuration; and greater changes in the planning process as well.