Gavan

I have seen worse ruts, more riders lifting, and more crashes in the Cardiff gp's. Yes im sitting in my armchair but that track did not look anymore dangerous than Cardiff usually gets. This was backed up by 2 fallers due to the track, an unfit Batchelor and a tentative Holder. I await to see how Cardiff cuts up this year!

Really how bad a bunch of losers are the Edinburgh fans such sore losers. 4 man team pathetic excuse. How many Glasgow riders hit double figures? All well and good having a classy number 1 like Masters but you need the rest to step up. Maybe they were under pressure and couldn't handle it. As for that Blobby fellow saying Sargeant rolls worse than Cook is laughable. Who got excluded in heat 1 for trying to cheat again? Can't wait till you come to Foxhall and watch our number one King and your number one Masters having some great races

Oh and I know he got a Max away from home but as I say against the top teams he isn't doing it. Can't wait for Danny to show him the quickest way around Foxhall so it was poor from Edinburgh not good from Glasgow? There number 1 didn't exactly score well either and a 5-1 in the last flattered the scoreline for you. I'm sure in the league you will get beat by more as Lawson won't be as poor. Shame that you still can't say well done

im as quick to criticise as you are to be smug. Cook isn't the same rider at the moment and a max against an average Berwick side who hate your track hardly papers over the cracks. So far in the harder tests he is found wanting. Have you congratulated Glasgow yet?

i have no idea what you are wittering on about you fool. I've said the track was not to dangerous that the meeting had to be abandoned which is a view held by many on here. You really are a prat

Get in there Glasgow nothing better than seeing the smugs get beat fair and square by the better team. Where have they gone can't read their comments! And they aren't worried bout Cook's form? The lad has gone as far in the sport as he can and Masters is the better rider this season. Well done Glasgow. As for the Monarchs the rest of the premier league are loving it!

Sorry but the track was raceable and rideable, did you not watch it properly and see Harris? The only riders who fell was an unfit Batchelor and a struggling Holder. The track was difficult but not unsafe. Seem to remember a track at Belle Vue not so long ago that was waterlogged yet the meeting continued when it was far far more dangerous than last night. Poole werent worried about that track i seem to recall. The riders (not all of them) bottled it. The starting gate looked farcical. The track wasnt great. But the biggest farce was the huge delay while the riders had a meeting and got the meeting called off didnt see any riders congratulating each other they were hugging and congratulating Gollob. so unlike you get something wrong I dont think a Poole fan can give any credibility on track safety as they need to get their own house in order first. Quite happy to race in a monsoon at Belle Vue where riders couldnt see, yet think last night was dangerous!

I have seen meetings completed on far far worse tracks then that. This sort of thing never would have happened 10 or even 5 years ago they would have got on with it. And shall we look at the fallers last night. Heat One: Batchelor knocks off Nicki Pedersen so nothing to do with the track Heat Eight: Batchelor falls off trying to overtake. Nothing to do with the track just got the pas wrong Heat Ten: Holder comes off. Hit a rut. Heat Twelve: Batchelor (again) comes off. Hit a rut. So 4 falls and the same unfit rider who had a bad wrist so would have struggled on a bumpy track, is involved in 3 of them by not having the strength to hold on. The track was to blame for 2 falls. So yes as much as i admire all the riders for riding for our entertainment, they were prima donnas for not carrying on

The track had a few ruts, no more and no less than places like Cardiff, yet we all bang on how Cardiff is the 'jewel in the gp crown' when in reality the track isnt good. This track wasnt good yet some were prepared to give it a go Harris, Zagar, MJJ for example. I fully understand Holder being apprehensive as he had a bad crash last year, but then again he cant expect every track he rides to be as smoth as a billiard table. Pedersen had a knee brace on so he may have found it hard but thats just tough luck. Sorry but yes the track wasnt great but the prima donnas who were struggling (Hancock , Pedersen and Holder ) were moaning and the organisers bowed down to it. The fact is the track wasnt good and i agree with gp's not being on temporary tracks. The start gate was only an issue because at this level you would expect a back up plan. However the green light starts did stop the usual suspects rolling so again perhaps they didnt like that. People who were new to speedway probably enjoyed the fact the track was difficult, to then find out the riders didnt want to ride. Sorry but the riders who didnt want to ride have a lot to answer for.

I disagree. If the track was different all the home riders will have their bike set up as the track would normally be. If it was different then they may have the set up all wrong, where as someone like Covatti would not really have known how to do his bike and it worked for him. The track changing each week has to be an inconvenience for any home team

the track wasn't great but that isn't the issue. We know these tracks cut up but the riders behaved like pansies. Get out there and wind the throttle on. Granted the green light situation was a leveller off the starts and gave the riders more cause to moan. Seems like the 'old guard' spat their dummy's out and the weak race directors listened. What's going to happen if Cardiff cuts up like it often does? Dangerous precedent been set tonight I feel. Now if we get rutty or let's say wet tracks the riders will be wanting it called off. Don't blame the track blame the riders and the officials

Contender for the squad maybe. Dont get people asking for Newman He beats most reserves in the elite league, occasionally beats the od second string and is miles away from being a pemier league number 1. Good little rider yes, but nowhere near good enough. If you think Newman could be there then Blackbird, Garrity, Auty, have to be mentioned. And all of those are below the likes of Stead, Cook, King , Barker, and Kennett I get blooding the youngsters is the right way but the likes of Lambert and Howarth are well clear of Newman

Cant see anyone getting near Edinburghs best rider Masters. His form is sensational this season

Wow really How can you leave out a 23 year old ex world champ and number 4 in the world? He is the future lol Riders like Stead, Cook , King and Kennett are the riders who have been there not done it. If anyone seriously thinks leaving out Woffinden is a good idea i think they need their heads tested. There is no way Kyle Newman as good a rider as he is should be in a World Cup squad. Lawson Lambert and Howarth are all ahead of Newman. If you think Newman should be in then what about Garrity, Blackbird , Auty, Steve Worrall? All as good if not better than Newman And i wouldnt have any of them near a Team GB squad personally

Wouldnt have Cook in my 4 riders especially if its at Lynn. May use Cook in Poland if he shows he can go well there

I have no allegiance or preference to either rider but to say a rider who reels off 5 wins in an individual meeting isnt deserving of the title is a strange comment. the rules are the rules though and everyone knew there would be a final but on the night Lambert was probably more deserving. However well done to Kyle Howarth great little rider i agree with those riders you mention. Call me biased being an Ipswich fan but king is in good form and if Scott decides he still doesnt ride then i would put King in. Though has to be sadi Stead has never let his country down

i don't think King will qualify for a gp series either but your argument is flawed. He wasn't a million miles away on the gp challenge final at Poole and as pointed out to you King was a better rider than Smolinski was at the time he qualified so there is no reason to dismiss him out of hand

Dont get the issue. Riders like King, Cook and Stead are never going to be World Champion or make the gp's so what is wrong with riding to earn money? King and Stead both tried abroad and failed and Cook at last is having a go. These riders are draw cards. I now due to work and family go to Foxhall about 8 times a year. I will certainly be going when Cook is there and Stead as well

Why does everyone take discussions as personal! Cook is out of form in the elite league Im asking are Edinburgh fans worried about this. Surely , rather than saying things like 'go to the Belle Vue thread' try having a discussion and give reasons why you think he will be ok. Why get so defensive? The fact Cook is a prat is irelevent we are talking about his riding

Nothing would please me more to see the old Holder back, but i think he isnt there anymore. Granted he had a really bad crash at Coventry that nearly ended his career, but you still need to have the hunger to go back to the same track and perform. Once you become cautious on any track it will lead to bigger issues. I seem to remember Shawn Moran saying when he lost his nerve he even let the riders leave the tapes quicker so he didnt get to the bend with them. Im not saying Chris has lost his nerve but his form is patchy at best. Maybe Poole could lose Holder and Watt and get in Ward and someone else. I dont know how that would fit points wise. I cant stand North as a person but his form this season is very good and he is more than capable of holding down the third heat leader slot.

How am i spouting nonsense!!!!!! Im asking if your worried his elite league poor form is a worry if he brings it to the premier. Normal question but yet again the high and mighty cant debate.

Think everyone knows who Schlein was guesting for. Nobody said it wasnt legal but it just becomes farcical. Poole had issues but none as bad as Coventry. Coventry had riders fall off in scoring positions Coventry had a number 1 who had awful machinery problems Coventry replaced a premier league heat leader with a premier league second string. Poole replaced a premier league heat leader with an elite league heat leader who could ride as an elite league second string. All that said Poole are strong and will be thereabouts at the end Holder has to be a worry looks a shadow of his former self. Can see Holder leaving when Darcy is fit as he may well need to concentrate on staying in the top 8 No i havent omited that. Fact is Poole with Watt as heat leader and North at 2 would be weaker than North at 3 and Schlien at 2. Dakota North is riding wel this season wherever he goes and certainly is as good if not better than Watt at Brandon. This means Poole were quite a bit stronger than if they had tracked their usual 1-7 What i suggest you do is read my posts better as in every single post i said what Poole did was perfctly legal. Not once have i said Poole cheated or did anything wrong. So before you jump over my posts and accuse of all the anti poole crap , i suggest you dont just selectively read what you want to see

Interesting that an elite league heat leader can replace a premier league rider and then ride as a second string. Shows how ridiculous the sport has become. I know it's legal but it's just daft and handed Poole the win

once out of the last 3 times he behaved even then had 2 rollers as per usual. time before he scored 11 and hated being on the end of a team riding 5-1 and as per normal sulked and rode back to the pits rather than shake hands, and then the time before he didnt even complete 2 rides. Lets be honest good rider as he is and yes i would love him at number one for us, the bloke is a bit of an idiot

Im sorry im still unsure as to why i need to post this on the Belle Vue thread? Craig Cook is struggling in the elite league i get that. However my team are in the Premier League. Im asking if Monarchs fans are worried his poor form could spill into the Premier thus affecting their team. Surely this is relevent to the Edinburgh thread? I couldnt give 2 hoots about Cook in the Elite but hope he struggles against us! He does usually throw his toys out at Foxhall!