BenR195
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Would be disappointed with that - we stuck with him this year with his injuries. Garcia instead?
He said he wont ride in UK next season because he wants to focus on Germany, Denmark and Poland, Coty or Jacob would be good if we could get them at reserve
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Tobi has already posted he isnt riding in UK next year
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Whilst what you say is true, a big factor is what's in the riders head. He is reassured that things are OK, even if nothing was actually done. That cooling of the clutch for 10 seconds really does a lot doesn't it.
I agree that some of it is psychological but why not stick the clutch cooler on while readjusting a chain, same with refuelling, as tanks would do the full race, its not wasting any extra time because youd still be doing chain anyway, it may not do much but it is something and clutches do get very hot
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Concrete starting grids at the gate to (as already mentioned) stop riders forever poncing around gardening.
Tape-touching brought back - instead of this supposed sit still, and don't jump the gate 'time-saving initiative'.......sometimes now resulting in having two re-starts.
If there is a re-start, straight back to the tapes unaided - instead of 3 or 4 mechanics fighting over who is going to adjust the clutch by 1mm.
Who knows, with all the time saved, promoters may have to put on a second half; and give supporters value for money.
Concrete starting grids wont work because the bikes rev much harder than the old bikes so they would just spin when the tapes go up, as for the mechanics coming on track its because the rider feels something isnt right when he made the first start so he wants it checking, chains slacken off loads because the clutch starts put a lot of tension on the chains so tightening/slackening a chain is actually for safety aswell as the chain could snap during the next start or even worse, mid corner with other riders around him, it doesnt take long to do and most mechanics are only on track for about 30 seconds, thats nothing if it means the bikes are safer, and it will be more entertaining having 4 riders finish a race rather than however many having to pull up with no chains on bike, I do agree that something needs doing about the constant restarts though and if they sort that problem out then that will alleviate the mechanics being on track
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Somebody else putting in their two Penneth who has absolutely no idea. How many Ipswich meetings did you actually attend to come to the opinion that he was committed before the sacking fiasco?
Ill guess at not very many. Youre totally and utterly wrong.
All this poor Sedgy cr@p gets right on my t!ts. Getting dropped right at the death leaving him with nowhere else to go was exactly what the pillock deserved. He was extracting the urine out of the paying punters LONG before the sacking incident.
I didnt go to any since Im not an Ipswich fan, but there is a difference between not being committed and having a bad run of form, getting sacked then getting asked to come back the next day, but if he did screw yous over fair play to the lad, people cry for riders to be loyal these days, yet when they have a bad few meetings or whatever, yous jump on them and want them gone, loyalty is a two way thing, for him to be loyal to you, you have to be loyal to him, plus why is everyone complaining, didnt you get a facility for him every meeting? and if he was as bad as people are making him out to be, wouldnt that of made yous stronger coz you wouldnt of had to carry him???
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I dont agree with what he has done but in sedgys defence he was committed to the witches till chris Louis tried to sack him when it was too late, then Chris had to put him back in the team days later, thats abit of a kick in the teeth to Justin dont you think, so I can see where he is coming from with not being bothered, would you be loyal to a team thats isnt even loyal to you, they didnt want him there and he wouldnt of wanted to be there so maybe he got told to be injured so they could get a facility for him, then it works out for both parties, Justin doesnt have to come back and Ipswich get to have a facility for him
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Anyway compare other teams number 4's:-
1) Kyle Newman
2) Ulrich Ostergaard
3) Ludvig Lindgren
4) Josh Bates
5) Ryan Douglas
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Full list of number 4s
Berwick - Kevin Doolan
Edinburgh - Mark Riss
Glasgow - Dan Bewley
Ipswich - Kyle Newman
Newcastle - Ludvig Lindgren
Peterborough - Ulrich Østergaard
Redcar - Jonas B Andersen
Scunthorpe - Ryan Douglas
Sheffield - Josh Bates
Workington - Matt Williamson
Workington definitely had the weaker number 4 but thats what you get for having someone as good as Cook in your team with TJ and Proctor supporting, your lower end had to be weak
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Actually I prefer to stand at matches.
I assume you use an armchair?
Youve said you stopped going coz of doubling up so do you go to meetings or not? and nah, I dont stand and watch, Im in the pits working
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Have you considered changing your username to Cinderella? Didn't she find a shoe that she thought fitted? Apologies, my sense of humour got the better of me there.
As regards the part which you quote you are, in fact, wrong to assume that I was referring to you and, in fact, I did not mention your name at all nor anyone else's. I was actually meaning generally and in 'future-tense' only, i.e. if something were to occur from this point forth in the future so it was a general observation under the heading of 'generally'. That clarified, no offence was intended be it to you or anyone else contemplating doing such a thing, i.e. in the future.
At least it appears we understand one another better. I'm happy to discuss anything, different opinions are good. But they should of course always be with a reasonable level of courtesy and respect.
Enjoy your speedway.
Enjoy your armchair 😂
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Incorrect. I've probably attended more speedway matches than some of us have had hot dinners. How many times did you attend the old Hyde Road stadium? Ever?
Yes I have asked you to refrain from personal derogatory insults - and correctly so given your comments which I have correctly noted as being of a juvenile nature. Note also that I have followed correctly to 'attack the post not the poster' as per forum etiquette and the forum rules i.e. by referring to the post content itself (your comments as being of a juvenile nature). You also incorrectly say that I have referred to you when I have not, it appears you have adopted a general note as applying to yourself which is entirely up to you.
Conversely you have not followed forum rules and you have called me 'a fake fan' - which is false and which I am offended by. I have therefore reported post #136 to the forum moderators as contravening forum rules which specifically require posters to attack the post not the contributer (poster).
(So myself nor anyone else shouldn't be derided for our attendance being that bit less and told by some disrespectful uncouth jumped up upstart that we have no right to comment nor discuss) - seems to me that you are aiming that at me personally since I have mentioned your attendance in previous posts, but hey, I dont get offended over stupid words so say what you like to me, ill take it on the chin, I have my opinion, and i disagree with your actions, not gonna change my mind on what Ive said
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now, forum title "what would you change in speedway next season" well this is what i would like to see changed.
1. forum members having petty digs at one another.
2.guests
3.doubling up
4.r/r
5.gardening
6.overlong meetings
7.double headers
8.lack of ambulances
9.better promoted sport
10.no play offs
11.k.o.cup finished earlier
12.bring back pre meeting parade
13.riders lap after winning race
14.more information on website
15.the rule book!!
Doesnt number 6 and numbers 12,13 contradict each other, surely if we have parades and lap of honours after every heat that will drag on a meeting more, number 15 is definitely the one needed the most though
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To "BenR195":
No need for derogatory sarcasm and derisive language.
You are, in fact, incorrect. I have an antidote answer for every point you have made. You will also find them already in various threads on this forum as points made by others and one or two myself. I am perfectly capable of debating / discussing anything with anybody. That I do not do so in reply to juvenile and insulting responses is to be expected. Kindly refrain from further derisive language. Thank you.
To everyone else:
Posters know me by now on here. I can debate / discuss anything with anybody. Especially when its in an adult like manner and many will have a different view and that's fine. Different views are good. But they should, of course, be with a reasonable level of courtesy and respect. I aint perfect and nor is anyone else but we do our best.
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If some of us are less than encouraged by the shambles that has been 2017 season with long gaps in the schedule throughout the season, culminating in fixture congestion, "Guest Fest" matches and all the rest then we are (less than encouraged). A few of the end of season matches that were very poorly attended are testimony to that. So myself nor anyone else shouldn't be derided for our attendance being that bit less and told by some disrespectful uncouth jumped up upstart that we have no right to comment nor discuss. This is a discussion forum - of course we are entitled to comment and discuss. Some of us can remember such as the old Hyde Road stadium - now that was a real speedway track and stadium (that some jumped up upstarts these days have never even been in). The sport thrived back then and there was no doubling up. Nor have I ever said anything about 30 teams, I've only mentioned potential amalgamation of two divisions, whether this be the first and second, or the second and third. It might not be such a bad idea to merge the second and third tiers, as I personally think it would be no bad thing to simplify things, cut costs, and have no globe trotting prima donna's. A regular settled team of riders that supporters can identify with as being "their" team would be a start, rather than the different "Guest Fest" list every week and R/R shambles that doubling up has greatly contributed to. And we are all entitled to our opinion, even me.
So let me get this straight, I call you a fake fan and you tell me to stop being personal and stop insulting you, then you label me as a disrespectful uncouth jumped up upstart and a juvenile, pot calling kettle black in my opinion
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Not so. I am quite capable of debating / discussing anything with anybody. However, I will not discuss with someone who acts in a juvenile insulting manner as you have done.
In other words, you havent got a clue, thought so, have a nice day
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Don't be so personal and insulting. If you wish to behave in a juvenile manner then take it elsewhere.
If I, and others, do not want doubling up then we don't. Its as simple as that. We don't need you to dictate to us that we shouldn't have that view.
Once again youve avoided my point, still waiting for you to tell me where all these riders are gonna come from, and Ive said multiple times I appreciate peoples opinion, what I dont agree with though is you refusing to go over a riders identity when the sport needs fans but still come on here and moan, in my opinion, if you dont help the sport by attending meetings you shouldnt have a say on how the sport should be ran
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Kindly refrain from personal derogatory remarks. You don't know me and you know nothing about me.
If you have to resort to personal insult then you have clearly lost the argument.
If you were a real fan, you would still turn out to support your team regardless of whether you can identify a rider as your own or not, seems like your just clutching at straws and picking faults with anything you can to justify your actions, I appreciate peoples opinion, everyone is entitled to one, but atleast when certain people voice their frustration they still turn out week in week out for support, And how have I lost the argument when you are the one that Has completely ignored my point about naming 210 riders needed to fill the teams, is that because you cant do it? You just stick to your armchair and moaning online while everyone else supports the team/sport they love
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Appreciated thanks.
However, what about the erosion of 'identity' aspect which many such as myself find a turn off and which I won't pay to see, and which has already reduced my attendance.
And what about doubling up being a barrier to amalgamation / all one league and which team would have priority over a rider when two teams in a match face each other and he rides for both. I'm sorry but the whole thing is a mess. Its a farce. Others are rebuked by it and mock the sport and I also find it a complete turn off and not credible and I won't pay to see.
Obviously not a real fan if something as stupid as doubling up is stopping you from supporting your team and the sport, but each to their own, if you hate doubling up so much and you seem to have this idea of one big league working, as Ive said previously, give us an example of how you will fill the 30 UK teams without using the same riders twice, can you name 210 riders that is needed to fill all these teams? The problem is, uk hasnt got the sponsorship/money to attract the big names anymore and there are too many teams and not enough riders, its as simple as that, unless you weaken the product and that will kill the sport even more that it already is, I appreciate your point but doubling up is gonna stay for the foreseeable future, but set racenights will stop the fixture clashes and hopefully in a few years time we can bring back some riders and bring new kids up through so we can maybe reduce the amount of doubling up, but I cant see that happening anytime soon
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If we had no doubling up, who would fill the teams? There are currently
8 teams in top league
10 teams in middle league
12 teams in bottom league
Thats 30 teams, each has 7 riders so thats 210 riders needed, plus need riders to cover for injuries, and some people are asking for a squad system so that would then increase the amount of riders more, can you think of 210 riders minimum to fill all those teams that UK speedway could afford and that would actually make the racing competitive, in my opinion there isnt enough riders to fill all the teams unless you start signing young inexperienced kids to fill teams which is gonna make it hard for them to score points as they will be up against the likes of the Worralls, Masters, Barker etc meaning they aint gonna earn any money, I get that doubling up isnt ideal for fans when there were fixture clashes but I dont see the problem with letting a rider double up if it means there wont be any clashes, why should fans be able to tell riders they cant ride on a Mon/Thurs when their club will only race Fri/Sat/Sun, its doesnt affect you or your club so leave them be, if they want to ride Mon/Thurs in top league then ride middle league Fri/Sat/Sun, let them, bringing in set race nights could be the best thing for the sport for the riders and for the fans
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No the sport isn't that different, it still uses bikes with no brakes round a dirt track. Seems you are out of touch as regards the complete shambles that has been 2017 season and which is simply not workable.
Back in the 70s were carburettors over £600 each? Was a clutch basket over £600 each?, then there is clutch plates that need changing every meeting, engine services which is like £1000 after 30/40 heats not meetings, oil, fuel, and they need 2/3 bikes because they need spares because of how temperamental the parts are now, and it could break at any time, after crashes etc then there is mechanic costs, van costs, insurance, flights for riders if they are based abroad, then they need money to actually live on and feed their families, how are riders supposed to manage that on lets say £60 a point with on average 2 meetings a week? Its not the riders fault that the sport is soo expensive, the sport has evolved a lot and whether yous like it or not, speedway is a full time job because of the constant travel to and from meetings, bike washes inbetween etc, not many employers will employ a speedway rider for this very reason,
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Eh???..........the sport survived for years and years without doubling up AND with riders working full time too AND riding just one league AND not riding abroad AND having only one bike........
The sport's become far too expensive to attract the amount of riders that it used to......AND a good deal of greed has set in too.
I understand what you are saying but that was the past, the sport is completely different now, and like youve said, the sport is a lot more expensive but there is no money in UK speedway anymore so riders need more teams to help cover these costs, if a rider only has 1 team he will still have to pay the same expenses on bike parts, then the argument about getting a full time job and racing speedway part time, what happens when the rider has to work and miss speedway meetings, then you will need to use a guest for the rider and then youll get people moaning about the use of guests, just make set days for leagues, and let the rider double up on separate days, they can earn extra which helps them financially and then you wont have fixture clashes, its the simple solution, fans shouldnt be trying to stop riders from earning money
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So doubling up continues..............
Doubling up will always be part of the sport, not enough riders that could fill all the teams competitively, add to the fact that a load of riders couldnt afford to ride just 1 league so would end up quitting the sport completely and getting a full time job instead, and that wont help the sport in the long run, doubling up isnt the problem, the problem was always fixture clashes but if Top league goes to Mon/Thur and championship goes Fri/Sat/Sun then riders can still double up and you wont have any fixture clashes, win win situation, riders get to carry on earning an extra income and fans dont have to watch guests all the time
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I don't deal in rumours, I only deal with facts, so, as it stands. 10 - 1 = 9.
Sheffield moving up isnt a fact, thats only rumour so far
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Seems sensible.
Did Redcar have a conference league rider for someone who went back to Australia or was it for someone else (they had that many missing it was hard to tell)?
We had to use David Wallinger for Ellis Perks because he went home before the season ended
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Would love a bit of Dan Bewley at Sheffield in 2018.
He will be at Sheffield next season, as an away rider
Glasgow 2018
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