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  2. Posted

    On 2/7/2023 at 6:15 AM, scampispeedway said:

    Can I mention that the Tyne Tees Trophy was run over two legs and as Newcastle do not have a Track, Promoter or any Riders registered

    in their name who will pay anybody for riding under the Newcastle name for this meeting, I wonder if Redcar will be glad to pay the extra

    money hoping that a good crowd attends from Newcastle.

    I'm sure that the the BSPA will not sanction a team put out in the name of Newcastle since they stopped many teams from using a former

    clubs name from riding at another track, Cradley Heath springs to mind.

     

    They won't sanction a "homeless"  team taking part in a league competition. A one-off challenge match as a select team is fine.

  4. Posted

    7 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

    CH's September average (8.98) is too high to guest for Plymouth. If Redcar don't qualify then CW would be an option, as would Oxford's Nicholls and  Brummies' Sedgeman.

    If Scunny don't qualify then Douglas (9.38) is also too high.

    Barker's GS average has dropped to 8.00, which means (with home enhancement) Plymouth have 8.40 for home meetings. Sedgeman fits home and away. CW fits home and away (just) as his average appears to be identical . Can't use Nicholls though ( 8.45 from 1 Sep.)

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    4 hours ago, StevePark said:

     

     

    As I say above, no he didn't.  Oxford would have been his 8th match, but it was abandoned and so doesn't count.

    Not that it really matters, but I think he's done 9 .

    Championship:- Leicester (A); Glasgow (A); Oxford (H); Berwick (A); Berwick (H); Missed Glasgow (H); Poole (A); Redcar (H). = 7.

    However he also did Edinburgh in the KOC home and away. Whilst these do not count towards riders greensheet averages, they are official BSPL fixtures. So I believe he's done 9.

  7. Posted

    1 hour ago, Diamondboy said:

    I don’t think you understand. The company has closed but it is still solvent, it will pay its obligations, it will retain its assets. If it fails to pay its obligations then it will be insolvent and therefore will enter bankruptcy and lose any assets it had. 

    But not where the riders are concerned.

    The Regulations state:-

    If a Promotion ceases to operate, and/or the SCB order an annulment, riders
    on that Promotions Retained List shall revert to the BSPA and transfers take
    place.

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  8. Posted

    3 hours ago, W9 Lion said:

    Just out of interest had Newcastle dropped down a league who do you think you would have in the 1-7 as I think you would still find rider shortage a problem.

    No we wouldn't as we'd be shut!!! Crowd receipts at NDL level probably wouldn't even cover the weekly rent!!

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  9. Posted

    3 hours ago, Viper said:

    States in this weeks Speedway Star that BWD is now classified as “Withholding his Services” rather than on the injury list.

    And as a result has a compulsory 28 day ban. More worryingly is that Newcastle now have 28 days (from when the ban started), so in reality just over 3 weeks, to find a replacement before the facility expires. Otherwise it's a guest with an average under 6.

  10. Posted

    On 5/16/2022 at 11:56 PM, Bellers101 said:

    Heard BWD was sacked weeks ago. Is it true? 

    I doubt it. if he was then Newcastle wouldn't be able to use a guest for him, just an unattached three point junior. If he left of his own accord, then he would be deemed to be "withholding his services" then we'd be able to use a guest for 28 days from the day he officially advised the club he was leaving (which is not necessarily the date of his last appearance). Since it would appear that we seem destined to use guests for the forseable future it would suggest that he is still listed in Newcastle's official 1 - 7.

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  12. Posted

    23 hours ago, crescent girl said:

    I think everyone in the stadium was looking forward to Bomber and Lee crossing swords in Ht 15.

    A lesson to the team managers who like to have their reserves swapping programmed rides?

    Not really. Doesn't make any difference. Just needs to know the rules. (See my previous post above). Complin could have rode in heat 15 ( as could George!!!), it just needed James to be disqualified for exceeding the two minute time allowance in heat 15, then a reserve replacement, from the gate, is allowed.

  13. Posted

    3 hours ago, Stuntdouble said:

    Made the trip down last night.as a Berwick fan I thought credit due to the lads that finished the meeting and got the bonus point. The ambulance scenario is something that has reared its head earlier in the season so still lessons to be learned there . I found it strange that the 90 or so minutes interval awaiting it’s return should have proved the time to be sorting out the ruts or bumps on the 3rd and 4 th bend not until after George nearly totalled Kyle in the re run. It would have been a good night at the turnstiles as from we were standing there were as many Berwick fans in the stand as there were Newcastle. The burger van ladies worked the socks off. And mighty fine food it was too. I thought it was worth the Akkers. If Ty is out fir a few weeks I would be asking Complin to guest at home meets. End of the day it gets dark so on to the next one 

    Complin is on an assessed average so, as I am aware, can't guest for anyone until he achieves a proper greensheet average.

  14. Posted

    3 hours ago, screm said:

    Newcastle fans should feel satisfied with their teams efforts last night, decent meeting with passing on a tricky track. Lee Complin was excellent, obviously on a track he knows well, unlucky that the rules meant he missed HT 15. Hopefully Berwick get Kyle Bickley going soon and he can sort out his mechanical gremlins. 

    What I find annoying is that Lee could of legitimately took part in Heat 15, and Steve pate should have been aware of that.

    The regulation regarding heat 15 is as follows:-

    011.1.27 Heat 15
    Heat 15 in Premiership, Championship and NDL League Competitions.
    Gate positions are determined by the outcome of the coin toss at the start
    of the meeting.
    The home Team Manager nominates first, but once nominated these cannot
    be amended, except by the Referee should the nomination not conform to
    the Regulations.
    Nominations must be a ‘qualified’ rider, as follows: -
    a) a rider in the 1-5 by MA (subject to them not already having taken
    7 rides)
    b) a reserve (6 th and 7 th by MA) who is in the top 3 point scorers
    (including bonus points) from their programmed rides (subject to
    them not already having taken 7 rides).
    If a rider is disqualified for a Starting Offence a Team Manager may choose
    either of the following options: -
    a) the rider can start on a 15m handicap in positions c or d (the
    opposing team does not change gate positions)
    b) is replaced by a reserve who will start from the same gate position
    at the tapes (subject to not having already taken 7 rides)

    Granted he did not qualify under a) or b), however all that was requires was to nominate James Wright, then let him get disqualified under 2 minute rule. He can then be replaced by a reserve.

    Et voila. Lee is in heat 15, as intended. Admittedly it just shows how bonkers the heat 15 regulation is, as it is possible for any of your 1 to 7 to take part. Steve Pate should have been aware of this, especially as it happened in Newcastle's first home match of the season when Paul Starke was excluded in heat 15 for exceeding the two minutes.

    Would it have made any difference to the heat result, probably not as Harris was on fire last night.

     

  15. Posted

    22 hours ago, StevePark said:

    And yet.... Last month had the 5% on it on the BSPL website downloads!

     


     

    Suddenly in issue 4 valid from 1st May his average is shown as assessed. it wasn't shown as being assessed in the 1st three issues. Can't find the reason in the regulations for this to have changed. his original average is a converted figure (from his last Championship average), not an assessed figure.

     

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  16. Posted

    23 hours ago, robbieblackadder fan club said:

    Why go out and sign a no1 when you can just borrow everyone else’s 

    In the past a facility (i.e. guest) was only approved for 28 days, then you had to reapply for an extension. I would think that if the "powers that be" decide that promotions are not doing enough to sign a replacement if there is no sign of the injured rider returning to fitness, then the facility would be withdrawn, and you are left with NDL riders who are not contracted to a Premiership or Championship team. I assume that is still the case.

  17. Posted

    On 4/24/2022 at 7:15 PM, geoff100 said:

    Congrieve and rumi same 4.oo average worlds apart ,some good close racing on a cold afternoon wont go in shorts again !

    Last season Ruml (at Plymouth) was in the same position as Congreve this season. i.e. assessed on an overinflated average. He was generally poor last season and didn't get close to 4.00 by the end of the season. That's why he's on a 4.00 this year, as that's the minimum average he will always be assessed on. Plymouth released him and Oxford took a chance, and boy does it appear to have paid off. he's a different rider this year. As Scott Nicholls said, He won the meeting for them yesterday. (memories of Mark Thorpe spring to mind.

    As for BWD my understanding is that he needs an op on his shoulder. That said, he's needed an op since he was injured pre -covid and still hasn't had it done. It's obviously reasonably ok riding once a month or so in New Zealand but not twice a week in the UK.

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  19. Posted

    22 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

    So no one would lend George a bike in heat 2 then he wasn't allowed into heat 9??? What's going in. Granty finally realise how weak we are??

    Don't know the answer to the first question, but according to announcements at the stadium:- Heat 2: George excluded for exceeding 2 minute time allowance. He will start of 15 metre handicap. Excluded a second time for exceeding the fresh two minutes. When Starkey was excluded in heat 9, it was announced that he would be replaced by George, and a fresh 2 minutes was started. George was excluded for exceeding that two minute allowance again. Personally I would have put Lee in from the gate in heat 3, as no-one was seriously going to make any ground up at Glasgow from that handicap. Heat 4 there was no choice as we had already put Lee in instead of George. 

    McGregor must have been on a promise on Friday as he was very quick with his finger on the 2 minute buzzer. For example, when Max hit the tapes in heat 3 the fresh two minutes was started before he reached the pit gate. Never mind that the pit phone is at the top of the ski slope. I reckon half the time allowance would be up before the ref had been told what option Newcastle were taking.

     

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  22. Posted

    15 hours ago, enotian said:

    Cheers. So it wasn't just at Brough he was struggling. Those Gold Cup matches are official fixtures though surely.

    I've no recollection of seeing Hungary? Robert Nagy, Csaba Hell? I remember seeing a Russian team when they had a rider called Chartchenko (I think) who was sensational but that was probably before 1990 when the Soviet Union broke up...   apparently temporarily.  So no chance of signing him. Used to enjoy those international select friendlies. I'm guessing that was when foreign riders were desperate to ride over here

    I may be wrong, but I believe the gold cup matches (whilst yes being official fixtures) were treated like the KOC and play off matches today and were not included in the calculation of the greensheet averages. Hence no official average/ record recorded.

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  23. Posted

    21 hours ago, AndyPresley said:

    I’m very excited by Complins signing. He was good to watch last time he raced and I like to watch a proper racer

    The problem I have is that, as far as I know, he hasn't slid a bike competitively in 10 or so years. Things have moved on quite a lot set up and track wise in that time. Whereas James was at least riding grasstrack during his speedway layoff, which made the transition relatively easier. I hope Lee can pick up where he left off, but I fear he might find it tougher than James did.

     

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  25. Posted

    Got to love the official Newcastle speedway website. Home page shows the latest results for last August!! , as well as last years team.

    Fixture page shows up and coming matches for LAST September. You have to search the news page to find this years fixtures. 

    Come on Newcastle, sort it. how do you expect to attract the casual spectator when the first impression you get is that it's shut as the info is SIX months out of date.

     

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