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  1. Posted

    16 hours ago, screm said:

    Good grief, could it get any worse.

    Why such negativity? On a sub 8 average I think it’s a no brainer. If he is committed as he says he is he’ll easily add to that average and it strengthens the team.

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  4. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Byker Biker said:

    I think these are separate issues, incentivising someone to make a purchase by offering a discount (even if it is 100%) is common practice no doubt you will remember George English doing an offer through Groupon, it made him bleed and always said never again.

    Maybe so but they go hand in hand with there actually being a sport to follow. Speedway in this country is just not a popular option anymore and we have to accept that. Football especially is the main attraction in this country and the biggest draw for people and then cricket and rugby. There are too many things for people to spend there money on now and with the cost of living speedway is a low low priority, some people are struggling to put food on the table there not going to want to waste the money they do have on a 3rd rate sport which has no credibility imo. We the fans constantly get the pee taken out of us and a total lack of regard for us in the way they manage and inform us, they can’t treat us with any kind of respect so how on earth are they going to get new people through the door.

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  5. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Byker Biker said:

    Which is why Promoters shy away from many of the ideas mooted on this thread. They can't win if they introduce a low cost initiative like free tickets the existing customers harangue them

    But why should two different people pay different prices for exactly the same thing? Like going to Tesco getting a ham sandwich I’m paying £1.50 but you pay £4 for exactly the same sandwich it doesn’t make sense.

    I totally get trying to get new customers but you also need to keep the current ones happy because the speed they are walking away from the sport is alarming, you might give out say 200 flyers and could get 20 new people coming regularly but if you have 30 current customers leaving because they know speedway inside out and they’ve had enough then what do you do? This sport constantly shoots itself in the foot time and time again because the promoters are so self centered they don’t care about if there’s a league next year or the year after they just want to what’s best for there club, the way half of them are going they won’t have any clubs to race against in 5 years time. 

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  6. Posted · Edited by bloom89

    8 minutes ago, Byker Biker said:

    and if I believe what I was told some current paying supporters joined Unison to gain cheaper admission not withstanding those that joined the National Union of Students to all of a sudden earn concessions which is why Machin binned it.

    Then you could argue why should new customers get cheaper entry than current customers? Without the current customer you don’t have a product to sell at all. Much like sky etc give new customers a really good deal to get them to sign up but if you’ve been a loyal customer for years then you can’t get the same deal not exactly fair is it? Too interested in getting new customers instead of looking after the ones who you’ve already got.

     

    Had a similar experience at Newcastle few years ago they had deals on wowcher or somewhere I think it was tickets for £10 maybe me, my uncle and dad took advantage of this and got cheaper tickets for one week we got in and Joan English was upset because we had used said tickets, the three of us had been going since it reopened in 97 and never missed a meeting used to buy merchandise the whole lot but because we got in cheaper one week she didn’t like it. Wouldn’t like to think how much we actually put into the club through 20+ years of going though. 

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  8. Posted

    It’s ok saying get Poole, Glasgow and Oxford to move up but with no consideration for the current championship? Why should that suffer because the premiership is a joke. 
     

    I’d go to 5 man teams and one big league and rider 5 has to be British and under 23. Do a grading system for the likes of Doyle and Bewley etc so teams can only sign one. Or if we can’t afford them then they don’t ride here the actual future of British speedway if there is one is mightily more important than attracting a couple of gp riders back here. Denmark have 5 man teams I think. Go to one big league and hopefully stop all this doubling up once and for all… if the riders can’t afford to just do one league either don’t ride here or go get a job. 

  12. Posted

    1 hour ago, iainb said:

    Also let's not forget that he was heavily involved in turning the Great Britain Speedway from also-rans to consitent medalists and World Champions!

    Absolutely! Always remember one of his interviews where he said after a World Cup and the whole gb squad were eating kebabs while he had his own food haha. That just shows had bad and unprofessional we actually were.

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  13. Posted · Edited by bloom89

    23 minutes ago, bellevueace said:

    Despite all the other problems that has dragged the sport to where it is the fact that a three time world champion took no interest in supporting his home countrys league cannot be denied. Jason Doyle has been far more loyal to this country and only missed riding here when Swindon didnt run, Anyway as long as Belle Vue dont sign him, que así sea.

    If you could do the same job and get paid possibly 3 or 4 times more than you do in your current job would you turn it down? Whether you or I like it or not Poland is the place to be they pay the most and that will always attract the top riders. If the uk could pay what Poland does then they’d all be riding here. It is what it is… let’s just enjoy it while we can because in 10 years time we will be lucky if we have enough teams for league racing over here. 
     

    Yes it wasn’t great that a 3 time world champion wasn’t riding in his home league but I don’t begrudge him that at all it’s a shambles in this country the majority of the tracks and stadia are poor and he used to carry us during the world cups. His choice he didn’t want to ride here and we have to accept that, yes it does look like he’s coming back probably because it suits him now and it tops his bank balance up blame the current regime for allowing it to happen imo.

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  14. Posted · Edited by bloom89

    4 hours ago, bellevueace said:

    I agree with you but your first paragraph sums it up, the sport isnt as popular as it was, crowds are woeful, nobody cares about it, hence the reason a British world champion with the charisma to connect to the generations it needs to rebuild and to put the sport back into the media headlines would have been a great asset, that he didnt chose to do that but now is happy to come back when hes on the wane is just another example of riders using the British league to suit themselves, when he could have made a big difference in promoting speedway he was nowhere to be seen and i wonder how much it will cost a team to employ him? Will he ride for next to nothing as clubs in this country are struggling financially or take a big chunk of a budget a club cant really afford?

    But didn’t he appear on bbc news and I’m sure he’s been on question of sport although someone may correct me if I’m wrong. He was in numerous tabloids doing interviews after winning his world titles but people just aren’t bothered about speedway that is the problem, you might’ve got a few hundred people up and down the country going when they discovered what it was and the novelty factor because they hadn’t seen it before and it looked exciting on the tv the clips they’d seen or whatever then they go to a uk meeting the track is unfit for racing and meeting gets delayed an hour while work gets done to it and said people won’t return. Or the ludicrous guest rules your trying to explain to a newbie that Chris Harris is employed by Coventry but tonight he’s guesting for Swindon because there rider is riding in Poland instead of the uk. People won’t understand and just think it’s a joke (which it is)…. imo the sports problems are far bigger than woffy advertising it. When do you ever see any of the current promoters promoting the sport anywhere? Why can’t they all chip in and get a proper advert out on bbc or itv or channel 4 or whatever it may be? They can’t or don’t know how to promote it in some cases yet why should that fall back on to the riders to promote the sport for them? The top riders will promote it to gain sponsorship but the vast majority of sponsor’s already know about speedway or are already involved in it.

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  15. Posted

    54 minutes ago, Ian68 said:

    Garrity doesn't deserve another chance,scum of the earth what he did leave him inside to rot along with all the other wasters

    100% nobody should touch him with a barge pole. Sentence he got was too short as well. Horrible human.

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  16. Posted · Edited by bloom89

    13 hours ago, Technik said:

    I don't think he will venture into the Championship this season. He made a mistake last year & ended up on an average & had to start the season in the main team, Agreed it went well for him but he could have had a lot more rides from reserve. If he doe's the same this year & ends up saddled with a +5.00 average & unable to start at reserve, I for one will be shocked.

    I quite like that though personally, knew he’d be starting in the main body of the team but believed in himself and knew he was good enough to be able to cope and beyond that so fair play imo.

  17. Posted

    1 hour ago, bellevueace said:

    True but Woffinden was in a position to help the sport from his position of being a British world champion with the personality to promote the sport nationally and connect with the younger generations the sport badly needs to attract, im not blaming him for the sport being mismanaged  but he could have done a lot more to help the situation considering his standing. The sport is still badly run but apparently he has no problem coming back to top up the pension pot, he would have made a far greater impact as a current world champion, opportunity missed.

    I get that but we have to be realistic and speedway in this country is now not a popular sport well gone are the 60/70s where you had tens of thousands of people at league meetings. It’s never going to get back to those days yes you have the odd meeting here and there where a good line up will draw the crowds but in the main apart from the people who go it’s a sport nobody cares about and that isn’t going to change. 

    At the rate we’re going be lucky if there’s a dozen tracks between the “top” two leagues next year but it’s fine because we have a couple of the gp riders over here. Looking at the crowds I don’t even know how some of the teams can afford them.

    IMO we should just go to one league next season 5 man teams and number 5 rider has to be British and under 23 stop all this doubling up nonsense and have the ndl for teams who just want to stay in that league with no intention of stepping up but this is all fairytale stuff and will never happen. They’ll bury there heads in the sand again and probably bring in a squad system for number one and in there mind everything will be hunky dory because we have Doyle, holder, bewley and woffy riding here.

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  18. Posted

    16 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said:

    I am aware Jason currently resides in prison... But who is giving him a chance now? He got many chances before his stint... But no one is going to give him one now, he's behind bars!! The original post made it sound like someone was getting him on day release :lol:

    Haha no sorry if I worded that wrong. Personally don’t think anyone would give him a chance again but this is speedway and anything generally happens. 

  20. Posted

    15 hours ago, flipper11 said:

    I believe he still holds the track record at Mildenhall.

    He scored 17 points from 6 rides last week at IOW. The opposition included Morley, Trigger, Kingston, Congrieve, Butcher etc none of them slouches, he also got the Fastest time of the night. Not bad for someone who hasn't been on a bike for years.

    There is no doubt he has huge natural talent but will anyone take a chance on him!

    If people take chances on a certain rider who’s at hmp then they will definitely take a chance on Boxall, no idea what his average would be for ndl but I could 100% see him being one of the top boys in that league providing he had decent equipment.

  21. Posted

    33 minutes ago, bellevueace said:

    Me too, when he was in his pomp and world champion he could have done so much for the sport in this country, he had the image to connect with the younger generations and create media headlines. Of course he was nowhere to be seen and now sees the UK as a top up to his pension pot now his star has waned. Compare to Jason Doyles loyalty to speedway in this country,

    Or you could look at it like any fan up and down the country has for years and seen the only way speedway in the uk was heading was downwards, woffy would’ve clearly seen the way it was being run badly as it has for the past 15+ year and when he was winning his world titles it was him alone with an embarrassing Chris Harris or Nicholls struggling to get a handful of points each gp, you can’t lay the blame on him for the way speedway has been mismanaged over here. It’s only the last few years we’ve had the youth days and the gb training camps which woffy has been involved in as well as glasgow and a host of other people, if they hadn’t bothered I dread to think what state we would be in because the people in charge have no interest in setting anything up like this. 

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  23. Posted · Edited by bloom89

    1 hour ago, Chris said:

    Wasted talent. Remember when he signed for Rye on his 15th or 16th birthday. Could tell he was going to be good early on. Certainly a lot more talented than someone like Danny King who was on the same side.

    Professionalism was always an issue with him as his bikes were an issue, his weight seemed to go up and down and don't think he had any idea mechanically. He certainly didn't get the backing the likes of Kennett, Bridger and King received.

    A shoulder injury in 08 just as he was scoring big points in the EL killed his career really. I think I read on here that he tried to put it back in place in the pits by running into a wall and messed it up even more??

    I believe he was stabbed at a Rye P&P day as well by Tyson Nelson if I remember correctly.

    Saw a video of him riding for Rye at the IOW last week and still looks good

    I think it said in the SS his drugs ban has finished.

    What was the deal with him and Tyson Nelson? I didn’t know about this.

    Agree about when he injured his shoulder definitely hindered him a huge amount. 

    I remember when Newcastle signed him as our number 1 pretty sure he broke his hand on a pre season get together. Always seems to bring a lot of baggage with him mind.

    Also judging by the pictures in the speedway star he looks like he’s been to the lee complin school of weight training.

  24. Posted

    In this weeks speedway star Steve Boxall is on the comeback trail, wonder where he will end up?

    Didn’t he stop riding due to failing a drugs test? 

    I personally used to like him and thought he was very talented but pretty much in the same boat as Lewis Bridger just wasted the talent they had.
     

     

  25. Posted

    1 hour ago, yaxley panther said:

    You say Peterborough and Kings Lynn are an embarrassment to the league ? along with Wolverhampton if these three team disappear next season , you wont even have a premier league next season. 

    Should just go to one big league, 5 man teams stop all this doubling up rubbish once and for all. If riders can’t make it pay then they don’t ride here or they get a job like they used to. 

    Yes Doyle, bewley & emil are here but has it really done anything for the sport in this country? The crowds are hardly flocking back. 
     

    They need to try something drastic instead of just rolling the same old rubbish out season after season because at the rate we’re going there’ll be about 9 teams coming to the tapes next year.

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