Falcon1983

TV money, sponsorship, pretty sure having a Monster Speedway GP in these other areas is what they would like to see (Monster that is), it's only Australia/USA where riders will need assistant-Funding to transport bikes etc. But I'll go quiet now as this is a meeting thread

Well whenever they are dont have to be in order, they'll only worry about upsetting the polish league anyhow lol

I think Speedway Grand Prix needs to try and take the sport into other areas personally rather than an additional British round for now. I'd like to see it extended to a 13/14 round series something like April - Poland May - Sweden May - Denmark June - Slovenia June - Czech Republic July - United States July - Australia August - Russia August - Italy August - Germany September - Latvia September - France October - United Kingdom October - Poland

Quite sick and tired of the same people arguing in every thread going, it's gone beyond friendly rivalry or banter, plus the numerous trolls who keep setting up different accounts and talking to themselves. So let's introduce ourselves to each other and see who is behind the username. - Real name (first name only if you wish) - Age - Location - What do you do for a living - Club you support - what got you into speedway - best speedway moment - worst speedway moment - Favourite speedway rider and why - most disliked speedway rider and why - what do you enjoy other than speedway - social media links (if you wish to connect with other members). We might find those who go for each other might have more things in common Who wants to go first lol

If you were Louis Would you not get Heeps and Allen to score 0 from 4 riders each and get those averages down in time for the play offs? Hoping that Kennet and KP can score 10 each or so tonight

If we go back in time there were not many alternatives were there, feel sorry for Peterborough

To be fair and I'm sure someone will, how many riders have increased/decreased their averages and when you say sign a naff team... I can't see why anyone would not sign the best team possible from the start it just opens up possibilities... The ones who usually lose out having increased their averages are the lower order riders at least this may protect them in a way... Perhaps someone might come on here and under my idea state what they do with the witches right now and see if they look any stronger for it.

Bomber is a good example of why I think they should change the rules with regards to team building. I've probably said this countless times but when a rider loses his job and he's actually slightly improved his average (usually a 6 or 7) just so teams can get one main rider out... it's unfair So what they should do is simple and helps teams be competitive... For example I'll use Bomber and Allen Say Bombers season start average was 8 but now its 5 His club should be able to move him out and bring in a rider to the equivalent of his starting averages, what the other riders averages are or total team points is irrelevant against that one rider So Ipswich should be allowed to release him and replace with someone averaging 8 or less... Now what will make team building and changes interesting... bomber is under performing but witches are allowed to replace him on his start average, but when released other clubs can sign bomber on his current average of 5. Now look at Allen, say he started on a 4 but is now 6, if Ipswich wanted to replace Allen then they can only replace with his start average so bring someone else in on a 4, if another club wanted to use him they would go with his current average of a 6 So what it does is, it protects the rider, increase your average and it's less likely you will lose your ride throughout the season, under perform and you put yourself at risk. Would certainly make team building and changes more interesting, the whole team building total should only be relevant before a wheel is turned i.e. to build a team

Some good responses so far

Ok Steve lol - Real name (first name only if you wish) Christopher - Age 35 - Location Colchester/Ipswich - What do you do for a living General Manager of an Internet company - Club you support None really but follow Ipswich & Leicester - what got you into speedway Father used to race so from birth was going to all the meetings - best speedway moment Meeting between Exeter vs Ipswich around 90/91 had everything crashes, fights the lot... - worst speedway moment Poole fan mocking my dad when he lost his crash helmet in a crash saying he'd lost his head, I was sat behind them at the time and was about 7yrs old - Favourite speedway rider and why Rob Woffinden, always used to give me £1 when I saw him as a kid, he had a gold tooth so always thought he was a millionaire - most disliked speedway rider and why Mick Poole for his antics at the 89 thT deliberately slowing down to let Berwick get through and knock out Exeter, he even said he was cheating lol then in the final his engine blew up and they didnt win the meeting lol - what do you enjoy other than speedway football, motogp, I run a Sunday football league sidd - social media links (if you wish to connect with other members). I'm not all that interesting but can be found on fb my surname is easy to work out

What average would Mechelsen come in on?

Man of the meeting Ellis Perks

Doyle 13 Ellis 4 Jensen 9 Musielek 7 Batchelor 11 Perks 1 Doolan 5

50-40 To Swindon lol Ipswich Harris 4 Heeps 4 King 11 Allen 5 Lawson 7 Pieczek 4 Covatti 5

Cook Vissing Kennet They should all receive a ban for their championship club only, if they are banned from riding for their premiership club then might as well bang that final nail in the coffin of this absolute ridiculous sport

Riders who love to race speedway I think you'd be surprised by how many will race and then work for a living which is how the sport should be Out of the current crop I think you lose maybe 15-20 riders

The problem is, you are looking at my idea and comparing it to what it is now. What if the money on offer is irrelevant? And people race speedway as they did "back in the day" because they loved the thrill of it and got something back towards expenses? This is what I'm talking about, look at the Superstock 600 series at BSB probably similar running costs over a season as Speedway.... these riders are not professional racers, they have jobs, are sponsored to offset costs etc. The main real difference is the fact that they get zero prize money, it's all cost, cost, cost with only sponsorship or money from a day job.... this is the level of speedway in this country... If it's not good enough for say Troy Batchelor (sorry Troy) then simply do not race in the UK, this is the only way forward or it will die. I see a lot of middle order riders enjoying life outside of speedway as it is and holidays etc. So the sport must pay ok in the middle order, riders will always want more, you cant blame them

P.s. £26k ain't bad if you have covered your costs in sponsorship, also taking into consideration crash damage etc.

Think you all miss the point... UK Speedway should not have "professional speedway riders" in it, riders are part of the overall problem in the sport not being professional as doubling up has allowed them two levels of income, all riders are going to claim they are skint when they are not just so they can earn more. British speedway needs to go back to racing on the best night for each club and if riders cannot attract enough sponsorship to cover costs etc then get a job! Many riders at BSB level would love £26k back in prize money over a season, loads have jobs too... Your "professional" MMA fighter on the domestic scene works for a living and fits in training, fight camps and fights... The riders have had it far too easy for them for too long.

I think any of the riders that actually love racing speedway would race no matter what money is on offer, many a rider of the past raced for the love of the sport and have jobs. As mentioned British Superbikes have riders who pay to race as it's a professional series but has amateurs competing within in it, there is no prize money its covered by themselves or sponsors. So riders would have to basically get sponsorship in to cover the short fall or running costs. So let's take a no.1 riding in am 8 team league, 2 home and 2 away meeting so that's 28 meetings per season at club level maybe with some form of KO Cup so if you get to the final that's 6 meetings. 34 meetings, say they average 10 points per meeting thats £500 x 34 = £17,000 in points money, most support class riders at BSB level would bite your arm off for that to offset their costs. This level of rider presuming he's British should qualify for the British Championship. Say he scores 10 points per round at £70 per point that's £700 x 7 that's another £4,900 70 points gives an overall championship finish of say 4th that's another £5,000 So from 41 meetings, said rider earns £26,900 not bad prize money from a non professional sport. I'd even go to extremes of making British Speedway a short summer series maybe ran from late May til early September and only have one home and away league fixture and concentrate more on the individual championship

I think it's time to wave goodbye to those riders who race in the GP series and those who earn a good wage in Poland and just give uk Speedway the opportunity to grow again before maybe the pendulum swings back to UK speedway where potentially bigger names return but I cannot see that happening for a good 20 years, the BSPA needs to 10yr plan and look to grow domestically not chop and change every 12 months. British Speedway at any level in this country should not be associated with the word "Professional" as it is not a professional sport, it does not owe a promoter, or a rider a professional wage. If you look at British Superbikes one of the league motorcycle champions in the world there are 5 or more categories circa 200+ riders, there is no prize money, maybe a handful of riders are paid to race, costs are mainly covered by sponsors and most of these riders have day jobs, all of these racers are ultimately trying to be the next Marc Marquez but for 99% of the paddock they wont make a living out of the sport. I think to progress it should be 2 leagues only, go back to the British League consisting of 8 teams perhaps those with the better facilities/support. Then have the national league made up of the remaining clubs. Purely as an example Poole, Ipswich, Belle Vue, Kings Lynn, Wolves, Swindon, Sheffield, Leicester. £10 Entry for spectators Revert back to the old 13 heat format £50 per point speedway Riders will have to make up the lost income via sponsorship. National league can be more based around £20 per point. British League play offs on BT Sport only. Have a multi round British Championship across 7 rounds all LIVE on BT Sport, if paid by BT Sport if they contribute £30,000 per round. Offer £70 per point (1/3 of BTs contribution) £70,000 then distributed to top 8 at the end of the championship 8th - £1,000 7th - £2,000 6th - £3,000 5th - £4,000 4th - £5,000 3rd - £10,000 2nd - £15,000 1st - £30,000

52-38 to witches

Ipswich to win to keep things interesting for a little while longer... Harris - 6 Heeps - 6 Lawson - 6 Allen - 6 King - 8 Kennet - 8 KP - 6

I'm going to say 16 or less from both meeting for Chris Bombed Harris

NBJ used to ride Foxhall quite well if the right one turns up can see 7 or 8 points but can also see a score of around 3