Fortythirtyeight

but 95% true as he is the Chairman of the BSPL who will have told them “ no more Friday night tracks “.

Visa’s are not a BSPL issue, although they do check the club have one for the rider, it’s down to the rider and the employer ,the club. A correct visa can be voided for a number of reasons , by the DOE, change in circumstances perhaps or operating outside it’s parameters.

That’s 12 riders the Bears have signed so far then.

He could be pleading for extra funds? extra help or going to tell the fans exactly what’s going on ? Best way to find out is by attending.

So that’s Buster x 2, Bates, CVS, Louis, and Smith ( who we understand has tried to rattle the top table ) .As Godfrey was Busters right hand man and supporter , Bates has power in both divisions and the newest promoters don’t get a vote for 3 years, how do you think you can break up the boys club?

Outside Poland which country do you think is healthy ? Sweden matches are mostly run infront of three figure crowds , the rest a lot less. Sponsors pay the for the clubs to run because of TV coverage. Long Track gets bigger crowds than speedway in both Germany and France , the others don’t even have proper leagues. Poland is huge because their football is poor in comparison to other countries and they price speedway correctly to attract family’s , that attracts sponsors, which brings cash , that attracts stars!

I’m not naive in the way speedway is run , non of us have any choice of how the sport is run. We can simply not attended, that’s a ‘ fans ‘ prerogative but don’t kid yourself that fans are going to have a say on how the sport is run under it’s current set up. An independent body might change that . This ‘ conversation ‘ has gone on since 1928 when the sport was brought into the UK and has gone on , in changing volumes, ever since !

It was ‘ silly ‘ because the powers that be will release news as and when it suits them, not the fans so what were you expecting ? a personal email ? Clubs have closed because of bad management , others for slightly different reasons , that has always been the case in speedway.Speedway is now a very minor sport, probably only fit to be called semi professional but just won’t accept it. Can you enlighten me what ‘ genuine supporters ‘ are addressing ? . Most are on this forum complaining about anything and everything and whilst I’m not going to defend the BSPL , it’s their money that’s keeping what little is left of the sport running so they are entitled to make whatever ludicrous decisions they wish until such time as an independent body comes along and sorts the mess out, if that ever happens. They will be the judge if 6 teams for 30 race nights is financially viable, not the fans. Meanwhile , they’ve told you what to expect, more of the same….

Then please don’t make sweeping statements that aren’t true. Quite a few clubs do care and take great effort to encourage youngsters in the sport. Oh, and a local lad from Redcar travelled to Kent for his home meetings and we have a very young junior regularly attending Redcar sessions from Plymouth so, if your dedicated enough, there are opportunities !

You never did come to Redcar, did you, or Berwick who also have a great enthusiasm for junior speedway, or even Edinburgh despite their restrictions.

But Newcastle have made the decision to drop Archie, a local prospect who the club threw in the deep end and said there would be no pressure on him , and said this would be a good move for the future of Newcastle and now they drop him and bring in another untried but non UK youngster , and that’s British Speedways fault ??? No, that is the Newcastle promoters decision nothing to do with the rest of speedway.

Not protecting anyone, just answering a rather silly post.

Is that the same BSPL who stated the rising star programme was a 2 year scheme and each club needed two this year ?

Not sure what you are expecting ? Probably because they , the promoters, aren’t supposed to announce any news from the AGM meetings until there’s been an official press release. As for Riders, most are advised to keep stum until the club issues it’s release.

Richard will keep you right, he’s the godfather of amateur speedway. Depending where you live makes a big difference to what’s available. Up north you have Scunthorpe , nearly every weekend, Redcar , now closed for the winter , Northside and Duns ( near Berwick ). Your budget will get you a rough and ready old lay down nothing more , no chance of an upright. You will need an ‘ amateur ‘ licence to race in those meetings ( much cheaper than a full licence ) but not for practices. Loads of mature gentlemen riding lay downs in amateur meetings so no problem there. Good luck.

NDL have no restrictions on running dates, but now we have Oxford threads for all three leagues ! Wish they’d announce something so we can reduce the amount of threads.

No, because of unlimited restrictions on UK tracks with stadium use, days they can operate and how many times etc. Life in UK speedway just isn’t that simple.

Think again….Palm Toft no.1 at Peterborough…..no.4 at Redcar !

F-S-P obviously hasn't got a clue how speedway is run. An individual cannot just contact his local club and say “ I want to run a training session “. The promoter is the only person who can run events on his track, he has to be present, it has to be insured , qualified medical personal in attendance and will need a track curator. Anybody conducting ‘ training ‘ is supposed to vetted and competent ( insurance companies insistence ) and that’s just the basics. Then we can discuss smaller crowds !

It’s simple. The championship pay rates are basically historical and they , mostly, pay what they can afford based on gate receipts , sponsorship etc. The ‘ Premiership ‘ has historically taken the majority of the TV money ( a big sum during Sky times ) to run the club and then had more cash available to pay the bigger wages to attract international classs stars to appear on TV , attract more sponsors and so it goes round in circles, more coverage , bigger crowds ,more money. Now the two leagues are virtually the same but with no TV money to speak of but the ‘ Premiership ‘ still pay the higher wages to attract a rider from the championship but who will probably score less points in this division ( in theory ). Obviusly this hasn’t worked in 2021 when several championship riders have a higher average in the Premiership.

Isn’t that what they have done with the NDL this year ? and everybody is moaning about it.

A fresh and different perspective has been put across by just about every new promoter for the last several years, the problem being they may get listened too but don’t get a vote on affairs and the old guard just plod on doing whatever suits them no matter what. Buster Chapman had a new perspective, didn’t change anything, Godfrey …same so far.

Your right about a lack of an apparent plan for the future but your point on fan representation on the ‘ board ‘ is one that will not be welcomed by the people in control. Why would individuals who own their own clubs and therefore fund it, with all its is current stress and financial loses, want a fans rep saying “ your doing it wrong “ ?. Your ( our ) voices are heard, every home match if you actually speak to the promoter before or after a meeting. Happens every week at Redcar , usually over a pint after the meeting, but you have to take into account that the promoters voice is one of many at AGM’s and the like so whatever point you put across has to be agreed by ‘ the board ‘ and even if your club promoter agrees with you, it might not get accepted higher up, which is possibly why there’s been a recent trend of new promoters not lasting long in the sport and giving up bashing their heads against the wall.

Yes.

but the promoters do….