Fortythirtyeight

Put a positive spin on it. Big crowd, low wages !

You might be the exception then as our local grass meetings, and we are lucky if there are six a year around here, features very few genuine grass bikes , and I know because I competed in it. The only grass only bikes was the 160 class which was basically the older guys who no longer can safely handle a 500. A speedway ‘ star ‘ was given a nice little guarantee fee to feature in a meeting recently to give it extra publicity. He promptly did two rides , poorly, and withdrew with an ‘injury ‘. Several riders have made appearances on the grass in the last few seasons as ‘ one offs ‘, just read the speedway star for evidence.

Your obviously not up with the grass track scene these days. There are only a fraction of the events that used to take place in the 70’s and 80’s , therefore there is only a fraction of grasstrack riders around and if you look at recent trends , it’s speedway riders turning to grass to get a nice little bonus wage packet . Even the youth classes, the hotbed for speedway in the past, have very few entrants of genuine grass bikes and Over 60% of ‘ grasstrack ‘ entrants are riding moto x bikes so there’s very little chance of a speedway club finding a star from the grasstrack scene.

and his predecessor, and Ged Rathbone and a few others….

Read what I’ve said! I don’t know EVERY club but I do know that lease agreement because that was my job , so yes , leave it there.

Your just not taking this in are you? . Redcar pay 12 months rent ,on a 15 year lease, so that that piece of of the motorsports park is the speedway clubs, no matter wether they run speedway racing, speedway practice sessions , amateur meetings, flat track, tiddlywinks tournaments or NOTHING at all as long as they pay the rent on time every time the council are happy ! That’s ‘ the deal that was struck that suits them both ‘ as that’s was what the council stipulated as it’s their facility . If the speedway stated they only wanted to pay six months rent, there would be no speedway but the motorsports car park would be a lot bigger!, and yes, I do know this as I was involved in changing the lease when it was renewed. Now not every club or council will have the same agreement but councils want rents paying and if some one only wants to pay for 6 months and some other sport offers to pay for 12 months, guess who will get the lease!

What ? So if they did nothing the rent would be less ??? Don’t be daft ! The council base the rent price on the facility, not what the tenant does with it . Same goes for the moto x track, the m/cycle training school, the stunt school and the motorsports track .

and probably your rights to be a promoter as you would be regarded as ‘ not fit and proper ‘.

To quote one who do….Redcar as it’s council owned and all others which are similarly owned, and there are at least 5 others who do

You need to take into account the details of the lease on the stadium. Most will specify exactly what can be done and when and you won’t be allowed to run just whatever sport you want whenever it suits you,

As very few ,well established, promoters at clubs with long history’s say they break even , a new promoter running at a hired venue with not very friendly landlords ( reportedly ) and a budget team then breaking even would have been regarded as a major success. I hope the club survives but if people are not taking up free entry then the writing is on the wall.

Read the full context of the posts !….the suggestion was to just run 10 meetings a season, which would never work for those clubs paying rent and on a lease.

Most of those that don’t own their own stadium as that’s how they retain the right to run at the stadium, it would be simpler to ask ‘ who owns their own stadium ‘ ? The answer is ….very few !

and pay rent for 12 months on a stadium your only going to use for 10 evenings ? Think again.

Doubt it, Newcastle are on their fourth team manager this season and we are only just into August !

No.

Yes.

Very little time required, no capital or expertise really. Most clubs leave it to the company producing the items ( most good stuff for the GB clubs is produced in Poland ) to design the gear which can be ordered individually and paid for by the pre ordering fan . Just needs one person at the club to co-ordinate the sales and handle the profit margins for said club. Simples!

Agreed, Brennan should be a candidate , I’m somewhat baffled as to how Bates gets to be first reserve when he’s never been seen for months ?

Nothing at all, a little dusty but to be expected but perhaps the home riders wanted it done differently?. The riders were given the ‘ hair dryer ‘ treatment by the management perhaps that was the only excuse they could come up with ? Expected more from J.Wright and Roynon but if you fall off on the parade lap then expect issues !

Track looked smooth, but you’ve done away with some of your home advantage some what by taking out the bumps. Took a while but some decent races towards the end. Expected more fight from the home team , Howarth being the star man by a long margin. Bears guests were worth every penny, excelling them selves and added to good scores from the three Bears then it was an easy win. Couldn't get near the famous food as the cues were way too long but that was the smallest crowd I’ve seen for a Redcar derby match. Hope it improves as don’t want to lose our ‘nearest and dearest’.

Geordies arguing on their own thread ? whatever next !

Interesting that the ‘ thread ‘ disappeared yet the majority name caller was the second one to post on your new thread. Anyway….nice to see the Newcastle fans have jumped on the Redcar thread and we hope to see you all on Friday. Would think your team will perform well at the STMP and make it another tough one for the injury struck Bears. We still haven’t seen the best from all 7 ( now 4 ) Bears so a good choice of guest reserves will be essential and the management have done well so far with their choices. Diamonds will be difficult to beat at Brough too so I’d settle for the 3 points at home and be happy for a point up the road but having just seen the Sarjeant is now out ( now only 3 original Bears ) who rides Brough well, I think Bears may struggle to get it.

That’s very different then, thank you for clarification.

Wow, that was quick, no wonder there’s a shortage of riders if you can get dumped that fast.