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  1. Posted

    Agree that Poland appears to do things better which is why we have so many issues over here. Not too sure what all the fuss is about, so tracks 20 plus years ago supplied the fuel? and Poland still do it seems, times have changed and so has health & safety. As long as SOMEONE supplies the fuel, then crack on.

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  2. Posted

    On 1/24/2024 at 5:33 PM, lewy said:

    So are you saying that you know what deal he has agreed?

    I’m not privy to his or anyone else’s championship deals but the NDL pay rates at the club are not a big secret as most of the lads can’t keep a secret and talk openly about their deals in public, usually in the form of moans about who is getting more than them at other clubs!
    The club are not paying ‘top dollar’ but it’s my opinion they have been very sensible in the rates offered to ‘development’ riders and obviously the seven/eight concerned are happy with them too.

    Tigger and his family come across as very sensible and have been regulars at Redcar with the Gary Havelock connection in 2023 .

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  3. Posted

    10 minutes ago, lewy said:

    Redcar will be paying alot of travelling expenses to trigger it's a fair old jaunt from Plymouth, obviously if the NDL match is ran as a double header this will negate the cost

    No double headers planned and the lad has been very sensible in his deal as he realises the benefit of riding for both Redcar sides. Bearing in mind how many local lads are in the NDL team the club have saved a fair bit anyway.

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  4. Posted

    10 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

     

    I would assume so, most clubs have built / look likely to build teams well below the points limit, you don't do that if winning is your main objective. So why would they pay over the agreed pay structures if just wanting to develop riders?

    There isn’t a written rule regarding pay structure but it’s easy to work out which clubs are paying the larger wages, just look at the predicted  finishing order, Edinburgh and Redcar at the bottom and it’s no secret they aren’t paying over the top rates, very sensibly.

     Clubs have different outlooks on ‘development’ and winning at all costs. Besides , the SCB might just award you a title anyway like last seasons fiasco.

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  5. Posted

    2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    Most likely Macon in France. Affordable enough and better weather means more meaningful laps pre season 

    You must think Redcar have Glasgows piggy bank ! Try much much closer to home, about two hours from Middlesbrough.

  6. Posted

    5 hours ago, mikebv said:

    Those engines that got bought, (was it a GRS?), would surely be ideal for the NDL?...

    Let the lads hire them for a season, and maintain them...

    Then pay them a salary based on not having to fork out a solid five figures for 3 bikes...

    Would get a few "giving it a go" and seeing if they have the aptitude to ride a speedway bike to a decent level, I would think..

     

    You need to keep up with the times. The GTR engine fiasco died years ago and only 16 were ever brought into the UK so you’ll be lucky if there’s two or three still in a running condition.

  7. Posted

    33 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

    Because he has never averaged above 4 in the Champ, Leicester want to win the league & there is no age limit in the NDL.

    Gavin Parr could stand in for Middlesbrough if one of their riders broke down on the way for example.

    How can Gavin do that ? When he won’t be at their away meetings and possibly not at many of the home meetings either.

    Now if you had said Stuart Swales ……

  8. Posted

    On 12/9/2023 at 11:28 PM, Fozzie4388 said:

    Senna is off to Oxford I believe.

    Wouldn't be surprised to see Kean Dicken, Lee's lad in the Scunny/Sheffield Line-up 

    Yes, Senna had agreed to go to Redcar but was ‘persuaded’ to go to Oxford.

    Dicken would be a surprise and a gamble.

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  9. Posted

    Don’t worry folks, your team is sorted as Lemon has just dumped one rider saying he can no longer can fit him in …..well why did he sign him in the first place ? especially as he had turned down two other teams and now hasn’t got a place !

    Great way to treat the kids.

    No wonder the sport is in such a mess.

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  10. Posted

    33 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said:

    But you thought he'd never achieved a 4 average, when the reality is that in his one and only full season in the NDL he went from 3.00 to 5.29

     

    So one season at Edinburgh and one at Belle Vue  makes one season ?

    whatever….

    The lad still has a long way to go to be considered a decent heat leader standard rider.

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  12. Posted

    21 hours ago, StevePark said:

    Team to be called Middlesbrough Tigers. Number 8 is Katie Gordon.

    Ben Rathbone also named, so too Jamie Halder and Elliot Kelly and Archie Freeman. Danny Phillips announced and as captain.

    Ben Trigger last to be announced. Trigger also will ride for the Bears in the Championship.

    Team Manager Stuart Swales.

    Interesting, no places for local boys Lyden , Davison or Goldsbrough so they must be already signed up elsewhere ?

    Doesnt look a very strong side but then it is supposed to be about development.Phillips is the most experienced one and rides Redcar well but the rest are mid to low averages and a couple of them have yet to get above a four average after a few seasons ( Freeman, Kelly , Rathbone, even Halder ) so they need to impress this season. Sounds like the seventh rider pulled out at the last minute and is heading elsewhere , a mirror image of the seniors !

     

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    3 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    Im all for encouragement but im also a realist. % points from 5 rides is a decent return and he did beat Senna Summers which is very credible. The other points were gifts or against a returning from injury Freeman (who couldn't beat an egg that night). Either way it rules Ed out of the Redcar side as he is destined to be at Belle Vue in '24.

    So Belle Vue have seen enough to think your ‘Wobbler’ is worth a team place .

    The old adage of ‘ if you ain’t falling, you ain’t trying ‘ comes to mind.

  14. Posted

    9 minutes ago, KK62 said:

    As I know that you are well informed your probably not far out but If it’s truly a ‘ development’ league now perhaps it will follow the Polish model and become an Under 24 style league which may rule out the likes of  Crang and Phillips, although that might be a little harsh and as it’s a new beginning probably not required.

    Personally I’d keep them in as their experience would be invaluable for some of those untried newbies.

    I thought you were even more informed as you would be running it ?

  15. Posted

    1 minute ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    With respect to Luke he's been around long enough to have sorted engine issues before the end of the season, im not saying he wanted them but his issues were a big factor in Workington finishing lower than many predicted.

    A combo of any of the above all looks likely except for Davidson, you don't get the nickname Ed F'ell without being a wobbler (well meaning yes but still a wobbler)

    Paid seven on his debut for Belle Vue says he isn’t a ‘ Wobbler ‘.

  16. Posted

    As Plymouth are saying Trigger has signed for the Bears it must be assumed he will also be in the NDL side ( the Cubs ? ) with possibly Mulford if he’s a Bear and not in a Premiership spot.

    so…

    Club assets are Freeman and Goldsbrough so pencil those in.

    Local riders are Phillips, Crang ,Kelly, , Lyden ,Rathbone, Embleton and Davidson. Could also add Bullets riders like Watson , Blair , Halder etc.

    so perm seven from that list. I have no idea about avareges so….

    Id say…

    Mulford, Phillips Trigger, Freeman, Kelly, Lyden, with Goldsbrough or Davidson 

  17. Posted

    3 hours ago, secsy1 said:

    Think a lot of people need to take a look at how many riders started their career at Scunthorpe, present and past.

    Opportunities always available for budding stars and plenty of time to hone skills at Amateur meetings or private hire.

    No mention at moment of potential riders, but the following riders could certainly do a job, albeit dependant on averages.

    1.Luke Harrison

    2.Jamie Halder

    3.Sam McGurk

    4.Elliot Kelly

    5.Ace Pijper

    6.Archie Freeman

    7.Joe Alcock

    Probable that 3 of those could be at Redcar

  18. Posted

    15 hours ago, False dawn said:

    Sorry if I'm being cynical, but the chairman of the board is promoting a club which is going to hold half the development fixtures of any other club apart from Sheffield.

    Let’s face it, he’s only putting a team in to make up the numbers to keep the NDL going and obviously needed a helping push to do that, but at least that is doing something !

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  20. Posted

    11 hours ago, Old Crusader said:

    Does anyone know when the NDL AGM is taking place please?

    Better question would be :” who’s in the NDL ?”……then work out which phone box to hold the AGM in.

  21. Posted

    10 hours ago, Redtruck said:

    King, wright, Jorgensen, Bailey, edwards, mulford, trigger? 37.64

    Not sure TJ is going to improve on his current average but with a weaker league he’ll do a job with Bailey & Edwards likely to improve . Mulford is basically starting again but showed promise. Replace Trigger with Hodder as travelling from Plymouth for home meetings isn’t a great idea .

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  23. Posted · Edited by Fortythirtyeight

    On 10/23/2023 at 9:21 PM, uk_martin said:

    Allowing for some poetic license in that statement, what's the betting that some diplomatic schmoozing and compromising will be going on to persuade the Isle of White back into the fold?

    None, I would have thought. IOW chose to leave, they appear to be very happy staging amateur stuff , might possibly be joined by a couple of other southern tracks doing a mini Nora ‘league’ racing so why look to rejoin a crumbling ‘professional ’ set up ? ( I do use the word ‘professional’ lightly ).

     

  24. Posted

    8 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

    It’s not a matter of the time required to run a meeting. It’s the cost of paying the riders. 
    That said, a 13 heat main event plus a second half had a lot going for it. 

    Is that why 80% of the crowd left after heat 13 ? 
    That was one of the reasons they extended the main match to 15 heats as that’s what the fans wanted.

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  25. Posted

    53 minutes ago, mikebv said:

    I remember the old SJL..

    I think all had four heats each in 3 man teans, with six heats in all...

    That could work maybe? 

    Six lads per night getting more racing...

    SJL had three rider teams with three rides each.  The current format for the NJL is four rider teams with three rides apiece.

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