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  1. Posted

    7 hours ago, Berry9 said:

    Oh dear 4038, I fear you may need a trip to Spec savers, you obviously didn't read my post correctly.  I don't recall making disparaging remarks about the quality of the track preparation or the racing.  I was merely pointing out that it appears that it is prepared without the Input of the home riders.  I made my assumption due to the fact that unlike you my eyes do not deceive me as I saw members of the team pointing out to Jonathan Swales from the pit wall where they wanted the track altered throughout the meeting.  I was pointing out that it would be a good idea to have the track to their liking before racing commenced and not during the proceedings.  As for a home track advantage, I think it's rather essential when almost every other team enjoy it especially Leicester who only grade the inside line and they were the opposition after all. Finally let's discuss Newcastle and their home advantage.... did Jonathan Swales ever curate their track?, I don't know, you tell me

    The riders are at the track over 2 hours before the meeting starts , some even more. Do you think they don’t talk to the track curator ? Just because you saw riders pointing doesn’t mean they were pointing out any specific ‘issues’ or where they ‘ wanted the track altered ‘, it’s quite normal that riders and track curators chat during a meeting and everyone has an opinion on how they would like it but it’s a club decision on track issues and it’s preparation and weather conditions come into play. Redcar have very rarely had any home track advantage especially as for the last 4 years they have had great track curators.

    As for Newcastle it’s the shape that gives an advantage not the surface.

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  2. Posted

    18 hours ago, Berry9 said:

    Redcar really do need to sort the track out before heat one,  it is so obvious to home supporters that the track preparation is affecting the teams performances, it's akin to scoring own goal every match.  Right now the home advantage is virtually non existent and even Jake Allen took to the centre green last night to have a dig about it.  I think Jamie Swales prepares a great looking  racing surface but I wonder if the team have any input beforehand, last night we were treated a wonder wheel extravaganza throughout the meeting that eventually altered the racing line just in time to salvation point

    Another keyboard track curator with no credentials telling an experienced and highly regarded track man how to do his job. One rider out of 14 makes a comment, after he s had a very bad night and all of a sudden the track is crap ? A track that produces top class racing week in and week out and gets rave revues from both home and away riders every week. We have a team of racers who, unfortunately can’t seem to gate to save their lives, it makes for fantastic ‘ speedway ‘ hence why we have such a healthy crowd but if you want a home track advantage, go to Newcastle !

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  5. Posted

    41 minutes ago, Justgotmecpc said:

    Yeah the 2nd part of the paragraph

    Then you surely mean ‘ former Peterborough promoter ‘ who watches at Redcar as he’s never had any formal connection to the Redcar club and neither has previous Newcastle promoter Phillips.

    I doubt ‘ The Gedfather ‘ of Peterborough has the funds to get involved again without a major backer like he had down south and from what I’ve heard of the current Brough Park landlords he wouldn’t want to get involved with such restrictions in place, and that’s supposing the landlords actually want speedway back.

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  7. Posted · Edited by Fortythirtyeight

    9 minutes ago, Teromaafan said:

    Never like having to operate R/R, particularly away. I think that Lions will do well to get a point against a strong Bears team. Zaine Kennedy's performance will be key here and will most likely be taking three of the R/R rides and Jack Thomas will have to take all of his programmed rides. Our big guns will subsequently need to be bang on it to keep us in the contest.

    The only team Bears have scored heavily against at home has been Plymouth , every team likes riding at Redcar and most have gained a point or come lose to wining only for the Bears to pull it out of the bag in the last race. I expect the same in this match.

     

     

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  9. Posted

    22 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

    1) There has been much debate on this and not to go over old arguments Rob didn't "tear the club apart" many of the "old guard" chose to leave with the previous shower... and haven't been missed to be fare and I would be surprised if any of the fan base knew who they were other than maybe with the exception of RC... and of course not forgetting the two who remained faithful Starting Marshall Phil Day and new Clerk of the Course Brian McBean who both do a cracking job and the club has managed to run without the "suckhole squad" who used to role up and do very little except bring in half a dozen hangers on who didn't pay to get in so very little was lost with them not coming back and on RC.. it was Roy who decided to take it upon himself to denigrate Newcastle at a Redcar meeting which got back to Rob and I believe they have discussed the matter which is now closed and at the end of the day Roy can say what he wants but Rob has the right to protect his business... furthermore Roy was an on cost on the centre green which Rob decided to save upon... personally I like Roy's cheesy craic some don't he's a bit marmite but over 20 meetings in a pre-Covid normal season it is a 2k saving that could be better spent elsewhere I assume. 

    2) The food wagon does events and festivals which is Robs business... says what it does in the business name to be fair and the most recent was the Leeds Music Festival... so if you go to any of these events who knows may be... but then again I some how don't think so... you will see Grants events catering providing a service...

    At the end of the day one man owns the franchise at Newcastle and how he runs it and protects it is quite frankly down to him and no one else...

    Regards 

    THJ

    An announcer on £100 a meeting ? I think that is a major exaggeration to justify a decision . Roy does a top job, he didn’t slag Newcastle off but Granty overreacted on the say so of tittle tattle, not the first time, but as stated , it’s his club and he runs it how he wants . It’s very sad that the Diamonds look to be no more but some of the stuff put about on here in the recent past hasn’t done the club any favours. I’ll be there on Sunday to pay my respects to a historic club but the last few years , added to this years disaster, has brought about the end of speedway on Tyneside as the fans have drifted away and it’s no longer a sustainable business. That could be repeatable at a few clubs very soon, sadly.

     

  15. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

    Think that’s how they will see it judged by previous seasons.:P

    What Year it’s been ,They are having a new trophy this season,Rider of the Year with most Guest Appearances.It’s a close with many still in contention.

    Well you can guarantee Scunthorpe will win track of the year again , it’s in the rule book now.

  18. Posted

    5 hours ago, Historian said:

    Dont know why folks are wittering on about the track ? It was perfectly raceable no different to last week  or the week before, the real  issue was the win at all cost attitude of the Bears manager who no doubt will be finacially advantaged as they are confirmed for the play offs. Both Kerr and Wright were on track ready to go for ht5 until their manager pulled the plug, I do not believe the Bears riders refused to ride  (Why were they on track ready to go) I do not blame the Bears riders who were just doing as told by their manager.  Bears were losing and looked unlikly to win, in desperation their manager complained about the track. and got it graded to suit his riders. Does anyone really think they would have complained had they been in the lead.  The action of the Bears management showed a total disregard for the paying public and inflicted  for the 2nd time enormous damage on B'ham speedway but far worse they did huge damage to the image of British speedway  and should be brought before a tribunal and charged with bringing British Speedway into disrepute, fined and points deducted.                                   

    I should like to point out that riders are free to choose what risks they are prepared to take or otherwise, the answer is in their right hand (no jokes please) its called a Throttle and as Eric Boocock once said it works in both directions

    Also, riders are always complaining about track conditions,  when dont they??? especially after a poor performance.

    So the referee ( s) stopped the meeting on the say so of one team manager ?…..really ? and then the ref (s) told the track curator exactly how to prepare the track to Redcars advantage ?

    Next you will be saying man didn’t land on the moon.

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  19. Posted

    8 hours ago, Deano said:

    Fair comment, but it’s a very short term view. Redcar have come close to folding under previous promotion/s.

    I’ve been around this sport for a good 40 years and seen speedway on many different circuits. Many far worse than last night, many where riders can’t turn or even slide too well. But they’ve got on with it.

    Only time Redcar came close was under Taylor as he didn’t pay the bills, still had a crowd and a good track. Havelock may have seen the team as regular wooden spoonists but it was never close to closing as he ran it within its budget, unlike many these days it seems. Redcar have thrived since he left with new management and a more positive attitude since 2017.

  20. Posted

    8 hours ago, cityrebel said:

    Your reply is what's wrong with British speedway. It's all about self interest. So what if Eastbourne, Birmingham and Newcastle close, as long as Redcar are all right. In the end you won't have hardly any opponents left to race against. The sport is in a perilous position, all clubs and fans need to stick together and put their petty rivalries aside.

    and ignore dangerous tracks ? as that is all this boils down too……lack of proper track preparation .

  21. Posted

    8 hours ago, Deano said:

    Interesting. Let’s hope a Just Giving page doesn’t appear with Redcars name on it at some point. With no local derby where’s your cash cow coming from

    ive said it before, anyone who supports last night Shenanigans really needs a hard look at how not to bite the hand that feeds them.

    Redcars ‘ cash cow ‘ is the fact that the club is run correctly and puts its track top of its priorities, hence a large crowd every week.

    Perhaps someone at Birmingham might like to take note.

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  22. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Deano said:

    Seemed okay from the terraces, normal close fast racing.

    after ... dusty and drawn out.

    loads walked out after heat four. 

    Thanks Redcar. Be proud.

    They don’t race on the terraces though.

    Cant blame Redcar or any other team for lack of professionalism. As recent photos and video clips show, the track looks good, if your in front, terrible for everyone else, including the dust covered fans who can’t even see who finished where.

    I accept you supporting your team but it doesn’t make it a well run club.

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  24. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Col said:

    What Birmingham hype?  What the centre-green chap was saying or Dave Rowe in the box?  Nope, couldn't hear them, the tractors were drowning them out.  If there was a problem with the track I'd expect Thomas to be cautious entering the corners, as he has been when that is the case all year, but tonight he wasn't - won heat 2, kept MPT honest in heat 4.

    So one rider rides better than you expect and therefore everything is hunky dorie ? 
    The club would not have done the extensive track work if it was only Redcar complaining. The ref also agreed to the track work being done. The biggest complainers were the amateurish Birmingham promoters who have proved their ineptitude once again. If you can’t prepare a half decent , safe, race track , because of “ lack of time “, then don’t try and promote speedway !

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  25. Posted

    3 minutes ago, Col said:

    But has riders that refuse to ride if a track isn't to their liking, no thanks.  As I said Wright was on track ready for heat 5, Kerr won heat 4 by a mile, MPT gave Riss a race in heat 4.  Who complained?  My first visit to PB this year was that disastrous KO cup clash and tonight will probably be my last visit.

    Your just believing the Birmingham hype. If you were in the pits you would have heard the two home riders complaining .

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