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  2. Posted

    36 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    Quite likely.  As with Mr Bridger im sure if someone fronted up a couple of bikes, some engines and a van he could be tempted back.

    I’m sure that any ex rider offered all of that ( over fifteen grands worth of kit there ) would seriously think of making a comeback.As talented as he might have appeared at one point you sure someone would offer that to a youngster who’s walked away from the sport twice already ?

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  3. Posted

    2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

    I can't argue that another Northern side would assist the league and the teams involved, always good to have little local rivalry. Buxton, Sheffield, Scunthorpe and Kings Lynn would all be useful additions to the league and provide some derbies for closer rivals.

    Would think only Scunthorpe of those would look to run a side in any proposed division but I do wonder where all these riders are supposed to be coming from. If all the sides run plus 2 or 3 new teams then that’s another 21 riders to find who can actually race a bike not just ride one.

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    18 hours ago, arnieg said:

    You have contradicted yourself. You assert the engines belonged to the BSPA and you assert that Godfrey gave them away.

    Godfrey is NOT the BSPA, so are you suggesting he appropriated BSPA assets to pass on to some mate in junior racing?

     

    (I don't think that was your intention, but it could be read that way)

    I think he didn’t explain the full gist of the thread from a few years back when all this fiasco was actually happening. Buster and Godfrey actually bought around ten of the engines from the BSPA for themselves , that would be around two thirds of the engines that were delivered into the UK.

    A few were sold to riders, mainly juniors but they weren’t popular due to ignition issues. 
    I believe he’s saying that Godfrey gave away the last of these engines that he owned, which he was very entitled to do.

    Dont think you will ever see one on track again , yet another one of the BSPA’s failures.

     

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  9. Posted

    5 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

    No the point is that certain teams namely Eastbourne and Glasgow insisted that teams were ever possible should remain the same so the starting point  was that . So with Eastbourne having a 3 and 4 star riders already in for 2020 they could remain for 2021 .Newcastle and Redcar had to make changes anyway because of riders not coming back Riss was known well before the announcement the two foreigners at Newcastle had said weeks before so not in the equation for team changes under rising star programme. As previously said poole had to change due to 2 Aussie riders at reserve and Edinburgh because of not having a British rider who met the criteria. I don't understand why people are concerned about 2021 as it is just an expansion of 2020. Let's see what 2022 brings .

    the list is finalised for this year as teams were picked 20 months ago

    ps all promoters vote for this not just the directors :t:

    Your point about promoters votes is not true. The mafia re instated the no votes for new promoters for 3 years at the 2018/19 AGM so that’s Berwick, Birmingham, Redcar , Newcastle , and now Poole and probably Plymouth. That’s half the division !

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  10. Posted

    Whilst the National League does have to abide by the BSP Ltd decisions and regulations it does have its own, independent conferences and any decisions it makes have to be ratified by the BSP Ltd. Mr.Pipe answers to them also.

    As the league is ‘ professional ‘ it has to abide by its governing bodies regulations.

  11. Posted

    3 hours ago, mac101 said:

    I think Stock cars were the main problem at Stoke 

    Stock cars have shared many tracks over the years without major issues but a good track curator has been required to keep it right for speedway.

    Jonny Swales is highly regarded and did very good work at Newcastle considering its limitations . A ‘professional’ gets paid to do a good job or he gets sacked, a  volunteer ‘ does a job because he/ she wants too but may not necessarily have the required skills. Brough park track was a challenge for a very good track man let’s hope the volunteers can maintain the standards he set.
    I believe Redcar had issues when Tony Swales ( Jonnys father and another very experienced track curator ) was moved on as a cost cutting exercise and they then had major issues with the volunteer track men that followed hence the employment of Terry ‘ the track ‘ as he is known. They then had one of the best race tracks in the country, just like Terry’s work at other tracks Coventry, Wolverhampton and Birmingham as well as him being called in to rectify tracks that had issues like Stoke, Somerset and the Isle of Wight.

    A good track curator is essential if the sport is to survive these days and they are worth their wages, whatever they are.

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  12. Posted

    1 hour ago, ch958 said:

    its low because there's nowhere for them to go!! The championship is full of div 1 riders that it can not afford

    Or the so called  ‘ Premiership’ is full of championship level riders which it’s paying too much.

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  14. Posted

    1 minute ago, Ringitsneck said:

    I think you’ll find they won’t.

    Crowds and takings up from Thursday nights, bar sales up and more children attending so they will stick to Fridays for sure.

    They certainly won’t t go back to Thursday under the current race night format as they’d lose their heat leaders.

    Think again Mr.Park.

  15. Posted

    6 minutes ago, BuxtonTiger said:

    A bit like the covenant on the Old Altrincham Ice Rink, had to be used for sport and leisure. Now houses. I assume Rye House must have speedway will be similar.

    Same happened to the Middlesbrough Stadium in the 90’s. “ Must be used for sport “ so they built a college on it and added an all weather five a side pitch at the end.

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  16. Posted

    2 hours ago, Najjer said:

    What is the problem with doubling up and doubling down? The teams in the Premiership and Chanpionship never race eachother and they no longer ride on the same nights to create a clash of fixtures, so what’s the problem? The only thing it does is create a solution to potential rider shortage and fill up the quota of riders needed across both leagues.

    The problem is the guest rule - where you have one rider ride for several teams within a week before then riding against them for his actual team at the weekend. That is madness and should be limited and/or stopped. I’m a strong believer in that guests shouldn’t be allowed full stop if only one rider is missing. In which case rider replacement should be used. If two or more riders are missing then a guest should be allowed, but only on the value of their home or away average depending on whether they are at home or away. I remember back in 2008 at Somerset when we had guests like Craig Watson replacing Simon Walker away from home because of his inflated home average, when he was pretty useless away. A guest replacement should never make a team stronger. There has to be some sort of limit imposed either on the rider, the team or over a time period restricting how many times they can be used in my opinion.

    You obviously haven’t been following the speedway forums for very long as EVERYBODY was kicking off about too many riders doubling up, no club identity, no club loyalty, no difference between the divisions and outsiders thinking the sport was a joke .

    If your happy with doubling, that’s your choice but don’t then try and use the guest rule as an excuse. If there isn’t enough riders to fill  teams in the first place then guests are going to be used , and abused , like they have done. Hence the arguments about too many Friday night tracks, lack of available riders!
    If we haven't got enough riders , don’t have so many teams or even perhaps so many divisions?

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  17. Posted

    12 hours ago, Biffa said:

    Instead of lowering the team point limit, why not open up the premier/championship conversion allowance. It may enable a better rider to double down to get all teams out of a hole. Would also maybe strengthen the championship in the process

    Which is exactly what they were trying to avoid by reducing doubling up/ Down!

    Do you not remember Scott Nicholls threatening court action ?

    There is supposed to be a deliberate difference in standards between the Premiership and Championship, wether we actually can see it or not.

  18. Posted

    Not sure where you get your facts from THJ but I can assure you, riders in the Premiership team I assisted at got a sign on fee. I should know , I helped negotiate them and some of the fees paid by certain clubs would blow your mind!

    Exactly the same when we dropped into the championship just less of a fee.

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  21. Posted

    17 hours ago, enotian said:

    According to the facebook post Smetana had to be replaced as the promoters dont have the licence to employ EU riders

    They've done well to act soon but I do wonder what this means for Vissing?

    Something doesn’t add up here. Let Smetana go and sign a much lesser average Brit but then say you've applied for the right to employ foreigners which will take a few weeks ....so why not wait for approval and keep Smetana ? Diamonds were already 2 points under the limit so now it’s 5 points under.

    Unless the rumour of lowered team points limit is actually true?

    As the rules haven't changed, as yet, Vissing doesn’t need a visa.

  22. Posted

    4 minutes ago, HGould said:

    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

    12 Teams in the League

    Tuesday - Kent

    Wednesday - Poole / Brummies 

    Friday - Edinburgh / Glasgow / Redcar / Scunthorpe / SOMERSET

    Saturday - Berwick / Eastbourne / Leicester

    Sunday - Newcastle

     

    So presumably the other 4 Friday Clubs take precedence over Somerset for CL Fixtures as they are changing dates?.

    Leaves most Friday's with 10 Teams therefore in action?

    You only need a few Friday rain-offs and it will be complete carnage.

    Would only also need one of the Teams not involved to refuse to release Guests and it would be a complete joke! 

     

    As Workington / Lakeside found out the Chairman does not like to be left without Guest options.

    The fact this is a Management Committee Member Club really does not look good for the transparency of the Sport.

    Unless of course one of the other Friday Clubs are seeking to change their race night? 

    Could Redcar move to Saturday or Sunday , could Glasgow move to Saturday or Sunday, especially as most foreigners won't be back so needed on the Continent

     

    Will have to wait for it to all come out in the wash! 

     

    As Glasgow started world war 3 to get Fridays ( “ We are running Fridays or we will sue )  I can’t see them changing now. Godfrey did the same ( “ I’m running Fridays or I close “ )

    Redcar probably can’t do regular Sundays because of the closeness of Newcastle and the car park is shared with the other race track ( plus shared staff, crowd etc ).

    Would make no sense whatsoever to let Somerset run on a Friday.

    But the mafia will do what suits them and sod the rest, as Workington found out to their cost.

     

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  23. Posted

    16 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:

    would all the riders in this years British Championship be all on the same pay rate? I assuming it would £x per point and per start, plus travel. Anyone know?

    They don’t pay points money or travel  in BSPA meetings, it’s a set price for finishing positions.

  25. Posted

    51 minutes ago, foamfence said:

    Football clubs still have wages to pay and are running matches behind closed doors, the majority of promoters are just biding their time and have no costs (unless they are bound by rental agreements).

    You think it costs nothing to maintain a stadium / track even without rent ? 
    Even a house with no mortgage has bills to pay!

    My local clubs costs are around the 25 thousand mark wether they use it or not as they do pay rent and for 12 months not just the 6 that the ‘ season ‘ takes place.

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