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  1. Posted

    14 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

    I am not going to another speedway meeting in Britain ever again, this is absolutely disgusting and I can't support it. If I want my speedway fix I will go watch the amateur meetings at Scunthorpe or go to Denmark. Absolutely sickening and unless it's changed, the SCB can forget my custom. I hope others follow suit until the SCB pull their heads out of their arse at least. I will keep an eye out for any future NORA events and I can guarantee I will be in attendance.

    If you think for one moment others are going to boycott speedway because of this decision then you are deluded. Whilst it sucks of stupidity it affects a minimal , possibly dozens or less , fans and so life will carry on as normal , the sport slowly dying because of the ineptitude at the top.

  3. Posted

    On 5/26/2023 at 12:20 AM, Ryan555 said:

    I was just putting some names out there looking at old greensheets i suspected a few weren’t riding anymore 

    ‘ Suspected’ ! You mean you just threw names from seasons ago into a keyboard without any thought whatsoever.

  5. Posted · Edited by Fortythirtyeight

    20 minutes ago, Ryan555 said:

    Thinking about some out of the box riders - Mikkel B Anderson, Coty Garcia, Joel Anderson, Victor Paloraava, Tobias Busch, Nike Lunna

    Wow! You keep up with the news, three of them have retired some time ago and two only ride for fun.

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  6. Posted

    3 hours ago, mikebaker said:

    Why is me stating that Mulford scoring, putting pressure on him. He won heat 4 at Birmingham, beat Roynon on Wednesday. He needs to start scoring at his home track. That is not being critical.

    You’ve just done it again…” .Mulford NEEDS to start scoring at his home track “ …not, you would LIKE him to score or it would be good….your demanding he scores which is is being critical. He’s a two point average rider in his first season finding his feet and most of us can see the effort he’s putting in, give the lad a chance, he’ll come good when he can get on an even par getting out of the gate.

  7. Posted

    13 minutes ago, mikebaker said:

    For me. The Cook brother's are the key to our fate. Both scored double figures in the cup meeting last year. Edwards had a shocker in that meeting, as did serial big scorer at Redcar. Kemp. The whole team need to perform. Mulford needs to score his first home points.

    Not putting pressure  on Mulford then eh? He’s a 2 point average rider and up against two former Bears and veterans for goodness sake and that’s just in heat 2!
    It’s down to ALL the Bears and the guest being on top form , from heat one, something which is not a regular occurrence at home but they are capable of it. Poole ride Redcar as well , if not better , than their own track so it’s going to be a very tough one for the Bears.

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  10. Posted

    23 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

     

    Would rather have a full team. But glad Poole have learnt their lesson and are having a no8 there and good choice with Sam Hagon too. 

    Can someone remind me when a no8 can be used? Is it just in a r/r ride or can they replace a reserve as well? 

    Under the new rules a No.8 can replace ANY rider in any heat but cannot be used in heat 15, the reason for which is only known to the person who made up the rule.

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  11. Posted

    10 minutes ago, ch958 said:

    I agree but I doubt it does anyone's confidence any good to post zeros week after week, sometimes it helps to come out of the firing line

    5+1 at B’Ham including a race win, would have scored at Oxford but for an EF, same at Berwick where it would have been a paid four. Just because he lacks track craft doesn’t mean he lacks speed. Give the guy a break, he’s on a 2 point average, what do you expect !?!?.

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  12. Posted

    1 hour ago, ch958 said:

    hypothetically, if we wanted to put a new face in at 7 who is available/ suitable?

    Do you sack ‘em merchants every stop ! Give the lads a chance, how are the youngsters supposed to improve if they aren't given team spots ?

    Charles Wright is a prime example !

  13. Posted

    14 hours ago, Dickie Head said:

    Does anyone know when the facility for Erik ends? And what are the prospects for his return?

    The facility ends when he declares himself fit to race, there’s no time limit on it, it’s a genuine illness unlike the Kennet scenario last year.

    He will want to race to earn some cash as it’s his full time job.

    The club will stick by him and the other riders who are still finding their feet as, unlike some of the keyboard warriors on here, the club show patience as the season isn’t going too bad….through in the K O cup, through in the Micky mouse cup and a first away win at Edinburgh in 10 years!

  16. Posted

    6 hours ago, skydog said:

    Pardon me for thinking that a club that runs under the BSPL and SCB was running an amateur meeting under that particular umbrella. 

    If they were Nora events , Nora would provide their own staff, medics and Insurance but that is not the case for the ‘ British Amateur League ‘ as these events are called and Yes, they include Hull and Boston in their 4 team tournaments. AMSA and Redcar have also taken part in the recent past so it can be assumed that Richard ( a top guy by the way ) runs the events under the standard SCB permits, which is the norm at tracks who run amateur events and practices.

  17. Posted

    2 hours ago, Speedway fan said:

    The 125's have their own rides at MDL meetings with 4 / 5 riders getting rides but points not counting in team totals . The MDL with 4 riders per team gives more riders track time and has always worked well ,,, and with squads of six gives more riders the chance of rides .  

    The NJL system works well for them but won't change what the MDL does. Each to their own.

    As for ineligible riders this is avoided at all costs but the Bulls were missing 3 riders with injury (Luke Harrison, Kai Ward and Billy Budd plus Bailey Fellows has his university final exams) and Luke Muff (an ex-Bull) was in need of some track time. Taking off his 9 points did not alter the end result ... the NJL use their system and the MDL theirs. Neither is right or wrong and the public don't get confused changing points in those races. 

    Both leagues do a great job producing riders and giving them  valuable track time .

     

    But there isn’t an MDL….it’s Birmingham and REDCAR , who are in the NORTH, so they have changed what the MDL does  because it hasn’t worked!

  19. Posted · Edited by Fortythirtyeight

    7 hours ago, Speedway fan said:

    In the MDL the points scored by an ineligible rider are decucted from the team total rather than moving places up in each heat ,,,  so result becomes 11-16 taking off Muff's 9 points

    Which is the wrong way to do it and makes it look like a load of points have gone missing. If a rider is ineligible and wins three races, your penalising the rider who finishes second each time when actually he’s WON the races and you’ve taken 3 points off him. Just ignore anything the ineligible rider scores and promote up each rider behind him, simples !

    or even better….don’t use an ineligible rider !

    Theres a reason the MDL is virtually dead and the NJL has been running for 13 consecutive years, get with the times, get 125 kids involved, there’s so many about now the BYC class is having to be split into separate rounds !

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  20. Posted

    Lifted from Redcar Cubs page….

     

    Cubs went down with a fight last night finally succumbing to a last heat 1-5 to lose 15-19 to the Birmingham Ductair Bulls .
    The Bulls fielded Luke Muff who’s points would not count as his NDL average is too high for the MDL rules so they were left with a three rider team but a strong one at that and it was an entertaining six heats.
    The Cubs suffered some mechanical gremlins with both Captain Katie and Dayle Wood having issues, major in Katie’s case , but it was good to see Edfell completing all of his races and top scoring as a result.
    Alex still looks rusty from the starts but chipped in with supporting points.

    Dayle Wood 5
    Katie Gordon zero
    Alex Goldie 3+2.
    Edward Davison 7.

    Luke Muff points Did Not Count ( 9 max )
    Tim Colley 7+1
    Jason Garrad 9 max.
    Jacob Fellows 3.

     

  22. Posted

    3 hours ago, Berry9 said:

    Please educate me

    John Doe currently rides for Poole and is also one of Pooles club assets .he has moved up from reserve into the main body of the team he is riding well and is fan favourite 

    Redcar are team building for next season and John Doe is in their cross hairs but he is also in Poole's plans for next season and is also their club asset. 

    Is there a protocol that Redcar MUST follow in these exact circumstances in order to talk to  current Poole rider and asset John Doe ? 

    I applaud your 50yr+ loyalty to speedway unlike you I am fairly new so I listen to what other fans have to say and the word on the ground is that Oxford needed Redcars permission to speak with Jordan Jenkins because he is an asset.  The word on the ground  is also that the Redcar Promotion  reported Oxford to the BSPL over the issue and yet again  nothing was done, I say yet again because it seems that every year decisions are made against Redcar by the BSPL.  As a fairly new fan I get the impression that the entire British speedway world is anti Redcar 

                                                     

     

    Riders are self employed. Being a club ‘ asset ‘ means nothing other than the owning club can charge another club a loan fee, a fee hundred quid, if he’s used by another club. As a self employed rider he will look for the best deal he can get , anywhere !, the rider will talk to other promoters before the season has ended to sound out his options for the next season. Doesn’t matter if his parent club want him, he will still go where he wants as the asset system has no legal standing and is only there so that the BSPL can reclaim some money if a club folds by ‘selling on’ that asset.

    Promoters do exactly the same, sound out a rider before ‘officially’ approaching his owning club. There is a policy, it is ignored by all except brand new promoters till they have learnt the game.

    Redcar have had a number of new promoters since the Havelock days and each has had to learn the hard way how the inner workings of the sport actually function. Yes, they have been hard done by on a number of occasions by the ‘old school’ who run the sport but you calling Oxford promoters names isn’t on, they did what is good for their business and what all other promoters do, nothing more.

    Just be thankful you have a club to support who have a fantastic race track and an enthusiastic management team.

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  23. Posted

    13 hours ago, Berry9 said:

    Fortythirtyeight, yourself and I am sure many others may think that the Status quo in speedway is fine yet I keep reading on this very forum how it is also a dying a sport.  There seems to be little faith in the BSPL, there seems to be little support for the guest system and at the same time so I keep reading attendances are dwindling.  I write on this forum about something that has really got under my skin and get lambasted for doing so so who am I?... I am one of those people who pays through the turnstiles to support my local  team, I have stood there watching them win the wooden spoon and watching them win the KOC.  All of sudden there's a sense of optimism around the place and  season by season we are building t feels as if the holy grail is just out of reach but achievable.  Then out of the blue towards the end of last season the whispers start spreading that Lewis Kerr and Jordan Jenkins are going to Oxford and that Jenkins despite being an asset was tapped up.  If you think that I am the only supporter outraged by this then you are surly mistaken, I must just be the only one to write about it.  To be told I owe the Oxford promotion an apology because "everyone does it" is ridiculous  because unless something is done to alter the Status quo more people will stop attending.  This Redcar Bears team with Jenkins in place of Bailey would be massively stronger and I am bitter at Oxford "cheaters"  for that 

    As Ive stated, you have absolutely no idea how this sport has been run for donkeys years, and you moaning about it isn’t going to change things. I pay my money , home and away and have done since 1972 , nothings changed in all that time when it comes to the running of the sport.

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