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Compton will end up a heat leader again at this rate!!!! thought he was only there to help out bring the youngsters on think Screeny maybe making a comeback next can't be any worse ?

Have read this thread with great interest and find it hard to believe that people genuinely think that Watt would not score points on purpose or to aid his parent club.I have no doubt that there are times when point scoring may be called into question but i do believe that people see conspiraicies where there aren't any . Watt like everyone else is human and as such will have good and bad days and having 4or 5 matches on the spin will have an affect on man and machinery IMO. As for PK ( I declare I am a huge fan) he has had a poor start to the season by his high standards and there may be several reasons why ,the favourite being his "age " ,no getting away from that he is on average twice as old as most of the riders he races against .Then there were the two nasty accidents last season which would of seen off most riders ten years his junior never mind a forty five year old but this is PK we are talking about .IMO no one can expect him to knock in double figures week in week out home and away and I don't think that Cook and co expect that .What is expected IMO is that he score nine/ten points at home and 7/8 points away and for most of the time this is what he dose.As to the present situation I think that there is an issue with his machinery which is affect his ability to race to his full potential not least of which gate consistently ,patience is called for IMO there is life in the" old dog" yet !!

One of the all time "greats" a joy to watch on a speedway bike ,made it look easy best wishes.

IMO what is wrong these days is fast powerful bikes on small tracks ,what makes a great race is four equally match riders on manageable bikes that won't spit them off given half a chance.This IMO gives riders the ability to race each other more rather than riding in fear of a machine that almost has a mind of it's own.

Joe Owen ,John Jackson ,Steve Lawson ,Tom Owen and Pete Jarman Imo there was very little between Jacko and Joe except that Joe would just go to the edge a little bit more than JJ.I think that both of them were exciting to watch and had very different styles ,Joe using his incredible natural strength and JJ having the balance and delicate throttle control on the bike I have rarely witnessed outside the company of Mauger & co.

If were talking about smooth riding Karlsson is the "Daddy" of them all literally the man never ceases to amaze me after a bumpy start by his standards looks like normal service has resummed .

Sent PM thanks for the info NW

A little harsh don't you think Watty can be a little hit and miss but PK( amazing for his age even scoring as he is) is coming back from a serious injury and improving match by match IMO but everyone is entitled to there opinion.

IMO "if" leathers are safer and offer more protection ( I am not saying they do) then prehaps the extra cost would be worth it against the present race suits.Would the leathers last longer( I know that riders have team ones in some cases and may move about more these days) but IMO as with helmets they should offer the best protection possible.i have heard that leathers are heavier and more awkward to ride in but I am sure riders could adapt .Also if the rider wishes to he may be able to wear a oversuit to resemble the present race suits to be covered in sponsorship and personalised to their own tastes.

Prehaps this is the one season too many for PK can't believe that he is not trying a100% whether riding for Wolves or not but may be those injuries of last season have just been too much to get over .I hope not as he is amazing for his age and I had hoped he had a couple of seasonsleft in him but he is human and clock is ticking just hope this is a glitch and nothing more.

This is the kind of action that is needed to encourage young and new fans to the sport "WELL " done to Worky , s/way is an exciting and friendly sport as this thread has proved.

It could worse it could have been cancelled due to lack of interest !!!!

IMO yes they can learn their trade ,we can go on forever about costs how to cut them or how to justify them but the bottom line is if they want it bad enough most ( not all i admit) will get there in the end.Riders start off in s/way for anything but the money ,they just want track time and to ride a s/way bike as fast as possible and emulate one or more of their heroes .The money comes later when the demands of life and earning aliving from a former hobby or past time kick in .

I think you will find that rider's pay in s/way is always shrouded in secrecy and not something that is talked about ,but it is a sad fact of life that the best riders will get the best of everything machinery and money.

There is a lot in what you say however older fans going on about the good old days IMO has nothing to do with putting younger or new fans off the sport.That blame IMO can be firmly laid at the feet of those that run this sport of ours.,I won't bang on about my views on this because it is thread about entertaining and crowd pleasing riders.I repeat myself they are there today just a little too well hidden as it were.

I quite agree there are such riders today just abit thin on the ground .

Sorry if you feel we are all living in the past ,your choice of riders are top entertainers in todays sport but IMO s/way of the 70's was just that bit special and had an abundance of " must see "riders in the British league .Maybe the problem is today that many of the top riders do not frequent our leagues for a multitude of reasons not least the GP'S. Gollob is pretty special on his day and I love watching Peter Karlsson sadly both have the clock ticking on their respective careers.

Never went full time with Wolves double up and you are right that Joey had an edge but IMO that is what sadly led to his losing the use of his legs ,a little too brave for his own good.As for Tom IMO he was with out doubt another great rider but a little to physical for my liking an never quite as good as Joey and Jacko.

The Owen Bros against John Jackson at Newcastle or Elle Port in the early to mid 70's ( all in one race even better) happy days !!!!!!!!!!!

Well done this is an excellent customer relations exercise and restores my faith in the sport I love ,I do hope the gentlement and his daughter have a great night and well done again Worky Speedway.

I live in hope my friend

Not worth having one now just get on with winning thw NL title and being in the Pl next season !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great news Sudden Sam is having a spin still got it and would love to race regularly but for the fact of all the old injuries he's had ,still hope he keeps going in these one offs for while yet .

Great hear Sam is in the meeting will I am sure try to win and not just make up the numbers just a pity he is physically unable to race on a week to week bascis ,long may we have the odd glimpse of him.

Could not agree more may even show how good or not a certain German is if they can't find a huge car advantage!!!