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MattK

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  1. 2 hours ago, Deano said:

    I bet the person who bought that house was told by the sales person, the speedway is finishing. I think  if complaints raise their ugly head the council need to tell the owners to take it up the complaint with the house builder. Then tell the owners the truth.

    The were probably told the stadium was moving, which it was in the original masterplan.


  2. 11 hours ago, poole keith said:

    sadly neither one would have any clue whats going on

    I don't believe that. As tenants, I think the speedway club are fully aware of what is going on and have been all along. If they are not aware, then Rossiter and Kilby are negligent in their roles.

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  3. 13 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

    I have to agree. Would you build a new stadium in the current financial climate?

    It depends who you believe. Apparently the new stadium is "all but complete" and is sat in storage in Wales. Now, if you look closely, you'll see the date on that article is May 2017. You can make up your own mind about the validity of those comments.

    Personally, I wouldn't build a new stadium in any financial climate. The land designated for the new stadium could hold around 200 houses. If you assume a house costs £100k to build and sells for £300k, that's £40m of potential profit from building houses. On the other hand, let's say a new stadium makes £1m profit per year (which sounds wildly optimistic), it would take 40 years of stadium operations to make the same profit as building houses. Which one would you choose?

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  4. It's an interesting idea. The most obvious questions are, who sets the budget and at what level? Currently clubs set their own budgets based on what they think their income will be. The challenge will be predicting income levels in 2021 and then presumably setting the budget to be affordable to the smallest club.

    The overarching problem for me is that this will result in dumbing down of the product, which as we've seen over the last 15 years of dumbing down, inevitably leads to a reduction in crowds. This means the following year the budgets will need to be reduced (just like the points limit is today) and inevitably, lower crowds.

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  5. 21 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

    CANNOT accurately answer that but obviously for production such as that being mounted at Ipswich must be a few thousand. 

    Let's say £5k for arguments sake.

    Do you think it would be easier to persuade 500 people to pay £10 each to stream the meeting or 1,250 at £4 to stream the meeting? I'd say 1,250 at £4 is a far easier sell than 500 @ £10.

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  6. 2 minutes ago, George Dodds said:

    i doubt £3-£4 would even cover the cost of collecting your payment, employing the production personnel and arranging the connection to your laptop. What's the point of losing money on it? 

    This is why you conduct market research. I'd pay £3-4. Personally, I don't think that watching speedway online is worth any more than that. Others may differ.

    If the costs exceed the price times the number of sales, then it isn't a viable product.


  7. Therein lies the juxtaposition between clubs balancing the books and wanting a winning side. So this is my question, why do clubs need to balance the books? As long as promoters go into the sport with their eyes open, then what is the problem.

    If you look at the clubs who have closed over the last few years, how many have done so because the promoter has simply run out of money and no one wants to take it over compared to teams who have been forced club due to stadium availability or other reasons?


  8. 18 hours ago, jenga said:

    i assume the £10 offer was done during the aces season. if so it was doomed from the start and riders pay and other things had already been agreed and so the only way. it was going to work was if it pay structure for the riders was put in place before the season kicked off .no point in doing it during the season . 

    so to me it looks like riders demands are killing the sport .

    if they dont like it , let. them retire and find another job ..   PART TIME RIDERS ALL DAY LONG FOR ME ... 

    It isn't rider's demands which are killing the sport, it is clubs bowing to rider's demands. If clubs set a pay scale which was sustainable to their income then riders would have a simple choice. Accept that is on offer or find gainful employment elsewhere. They problem is that clubs, in an arms race to secure the best riders, offer money their businesses cannot afford.

    However, this doesn't get away from the fundamental point that demand exceeds supply, hence why riders can make such demands in the first place.


  9. 2 hours ago, E I Addio said:

    I’ve just looked at the Governments guidelines but as far as I can see it doesn’t draw a distinction between professional and amateur sport. As far as I can see the guidelines are all about crowds and social distancing . Even the British Speedway website talks about October being the target date for crowds, not because it is an a professional sport. I looked at the Ipswich Stock Car website and that says advance tickets only so obviously social distancing is relevant there.

    I might have missed something so can you give us a link to where it says amateur sport is allowed but not professional.

    I can only assume that speedway classes itself as an elite sport and therefore is following these guidelines:

    Elite sport - return to competition: safe return of spectators

    Pilots announced for return of spectators to elite sports events

    Compared to much more relaxed rules for general outdoor activities.


  10. 25 minutes ago, emilali said:

    How is it anyone’s fault but the government? They are the ones making the decisions on which industries reopen and which don’t. Stock car racing at Ipswich is fine but no Speedway, how’s that work? 

    Presumably speedway classes itself as elite sport and therefore has to comply with those government guidelines, whereas stock car racing classes itself as an outdoor public event where are there a different set of guidelines.


  11. 21 minutes ago, orion said:

    How on earth can speedway and Greyhound racing make a profit these days .. i am a fan of both sports and wish them all the best but if its based of profit it wont work .

    The BSPA should pay Oxford City Council to share that report, as no one in speedway has been able to consistent make a profit over the last decade.

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  12. 5 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

    DOUBT whether that is true. Without Terry Russell's initial efforts there would have been no Sky deal in the first place. He was entitled to commission then, as would anyone who brought in millions. It was Terry who kept the deal going and the promoters were happy to continuing paying commission. It was only when certain parties thought they could do better without Terry that the Sky deal started to falll out of bed. 

    And let's be honest, most of the money Terry Russell did make from the various TV deals has been ploughed back into Swindon over the years. I doubt he made a net profit on those two activities.

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  13. 33 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

    Maybe some proactive promotion of the sport to politiicians to indicate what specific measures could be taken at their stadia  to comply with safe distancing .....

     

    This suggests the government is taking a practical and logical approach to opening up the economy. They're not. You can spend 2 hours shopping in Primark or from next week sat inside a pub eating and drinking, but you can't spend 2 hours outside at a sporting event. It wouldn't surprise me if BJ has a dart board with all the industries on it and that's now they determine what can open next.

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