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  1. Posted

    3 hours ago, StarBoy said:

    0-0-0-3 or whatever race Klindt goes in, for MPT rides as only he is able to take a ride now. Still, that's 3 more than Barker will get. There's plenty of riders in the Championship available...we took a chance on Kye, why not do it again with another one? I'd rather see an actual declared 1-7 than use guests week in week out

    Wow, your'e really on the negative stuff aren't you?

    Come and have a chat with me after the meeting on Thursday and I'll try and help to balance your opinion. No tricks at all but I need to understand why you are battering King's Lynn so vehemently.

    It's no good us announcing a signing until we have secured contractual obligations and fulfilled legal criteria.

    I get it that it hasn't been a brilliant season but whilst we are working to improve it give us a break ffs!

    No guarantees but we're working on it

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  2. Posted · Edited by Hoggy

    4 hours ago, Gordon Pairman said:

    It was largely through your contact information that Steve and I made all 4 tracks of the 2015 Aussie championships. We also managed to have lunch in Mildura with Jason Lyons - where Steve ate kangaroo before he’d seen one! - and then hit the pub at night with speedway royalty: the Lyons, obviously, the Holders, the Woodwards and the Adams to name but a few. I ended up with wet trousers that night but that’s a story for another day……

    PS The only mistake I think he made was asking Dave Hoggart rather than you to do centre green for Belle Vue’s 80th meeting. Better a jock than an yorkie :)

    Really, really upsetting news, I owed him a great debt of gratitude when the 2008 financial crisis hit and I was made redundant he was able to help when all my funding partners gave me the cold shoulder. Despite my loss of appetite for the sport Steve was one of the guys I called from time to time to keep in touch, just awful news.

    One of his best decisions he made was to put an English speaking presenter into the Belle Vue 80th Anniversary celebrations, somebody who was used to the open top bus life! ;)

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  7. Posted

    37 minutes ago, marko said:

    I certainly would not blame any fan for wanting to stay, fans of any sport want to support their riders, players etc when they are down, I think we all feel that we need to let them know we are here and routing for them, especially when they are unable to get back to their feet.

    Hope the boy will not have any lasting damage, the kid has a lot of raw talent but this sport can be very cruel sometimes.

    Re: the guest situation - I think this will go down at a Lakeside error, these are the same people who had to change the team on the eve of the season because they didn't make 100% sure of the averages.

    I'm not knocking you're post, your comments are totally understandable.

    The decision to clear the stadium was taken for two reasons; we had concerns that access for the emergency services would be restricted, due to congestion, placing spectators at risk and Dan's dignity, there were a lot of distressed people and any plan to move him would have exacerbated that and could only be accomplished once the stadium was clear.

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  9. Posted · Edited by Hoggy

    Morning,

    It's a pretty empty feeling many of us have this morning, please don't let this thread descend into the usual forum bitching, life really is too short - trust me.

    Like you all I sincerely wish Dan a full and speedy recovery.

    Cancelled flights, the delayed start, and non arrival of the ambulance all conspired to undermine what promised to be a great Speedway meeting and make this a night to forget.

    I apologise to anybody who felt there were any shortcomings last night it was a day and night from hell for everyone connected with the club.

    Also, it is a policy agreed with the Medical Officer not to comment on injuries or play music/make announcements whilst somebody is being treated on the track unless asked to do so, the PA system is loud and effective and drowns out communication between the medics and injured party so I regret not being in a position to keep you completely informed. You saw us preparing for the Air Ambulance as this would have brought the emergency doctors but this was changed due to flight logistics issues never the less the Doctors from the Air Ambulance team tore across the county by car to fulfill their commitment and duty, just incredible.

    Jacko spent most of the morning liaising between myself, Nicolai and Rasmus once their flight had been cancelled and all options were looked at to get them to Derwent Park including a Helicopter charter. The nearest we could get them to DP was Manchester to land at 5 pm so a request was made and supported by Lakeside to delay the start by 30 minutes. Nicolai and Rasmus started their shuttle around Europe and Jacko and I put in contingencies to cover myself as announcer/presenter and both riders in the event of further delays so that it was game on whatever happened. If Jacko didn't look at the Lakeside website please do forgive him, at the end of the day the Lakeside team was Will's responsibility and would have had to have been cleared with the Referee at some point. Let's not make anyone feel too bad about that at the end of the day both clubs gained nothing from yesterday and have the opportunity to race each other again.

    I really would like to praise Nicolai and Rasmus they could have so easily given up and stayed in DK and I do hope they are ok after their white knuckle ride to DP in the back of the Funmobile :o

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  10. Posted · Edited by Hoggy

    46 minutes ago, A.N.Other said:

    I agree. I felt also, that Dave Hoggart, stepped over the mark, when he sarcastily stated that although he could only announce information when the referee instructed him to, "it was fairly obvious what the problem was" !!!   That is insulting the fans. Yes we knew there was a problem, but it certainly WASNT "obvious" !

     

    You missed out this bit "Apologies for not being able to keep you informed, I'm only allowed to give out some information on the instruction of the Referee but you could see what I could see, that water from the bowser had dropped onto the track we were working on it, it's not hard"

    Now if that's insulting please accept my apologies that wasn't the intention but to get some of the verbals I did was uncalled for, I don't make the decisions, never the less I'm pleased you came and as you are well aware last night my presentation was not up to the usual standard, sorry.

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  11. Posted

    the spotlight swung onto speedway because of the UKBA being disbanded and the UKVI being created. The BSPA, as the professional body for speedway , were asked to supply certain details of the body to the UKVI to keep their recognition by the government.. The BSPA office failed to reply to the requirement by the REQUIRED date set by the government , in other words they treated the government the same way they interact with everyone else in speedway, that was the start of greater diligence by the men iin sukits

    This is absolutely and categorically untrue Godfrey please don't keep repeating it

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  12. Posted

    if leigh lanham get a max, I wont only post a reply, I will donate £10 to a charity of your choice!..pls hold me to that..

     

    Can I tell Leigh that's per point? He really will appreciate your generosity particularly as it's for charity and I'd be so bold as to say the club will match your donation up to a tenner a point on Leigh's first max, how's that?

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  13. Posted

    Heard from a source in Scunthorpe that Josh Bates has a relative who is a member of the consortium that's taken over the Tigers and that it was a condition of their involvement that Josh ride for Sheffield!

    Might be a load of Bull, probably is, but he didn't do very well at Scunny last year did he!

    Think he'll have a better chance of developing at Sheffield rather than Swindon, more local involvement, might be more chance of new sponsors!

    Not so I'm afraid.

     

    Thank you for the good wishes by PM everyone

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  14. Posted

    Your forgetting the BSPA protocol rules

     

    Rule 1. The BSPA MC are always right.

    Rule 2. If the BSPA MC are wrong rule 1 applies.

    Rule 3. In the event of both above rules being wrong the BSPA MC reserve the right to make it up as they think fit.

     

    Clue - Hoggarts on the MC

    Thanks you for your kind comments Dick, let's be honest I don't know you and you clearly don't know me. What I do know is that your opinion of me is somewhat confused with your opinion of others, instead of undermining my credibility why don't you endeavour to do something about yours? I'm not perfect by any means nor am I bitter and twisted about anything that hasn't worked out for me. Life is just too, too short. Enjoy your evening and by all means give me a bell if yiu want to talk about it.

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  15. Posted

    Why no report on Sheffield Star website ?, match reports are usually published the day after, even if Hoggy claims they take one and a half days to get copy into the star.

     

    Match reports have predetermined reserved space regardless of other sporting action and are copied and pasted from Josh or Pearson's copy straight in, they are told how many words or paras and this can be submitted until 10pm the night before. The Star notify us on a Tuesday/ Wednesday if they have space for a picture in Friday's edition and they tell us what pic they want then reserve the space no later than Wednesday, Andy Garner usually fires the picture to them by e mail before he leaves the stadium.. Simon's piece has to be with them 2 days prior, match preview Monday for Wednesday and all other copy takes pot luck alongside all other sporting activities. We try to have something ready to go or hold something back for use at short notice in case we get extra space. The page planners and the Sports Editor have been very, very good to us over the years, we have no divine right of coverage and we work closely with them and BBC Radio Sheffield on timings to get the widest possible exposure.

  16. Posted

    I'm a little saddened to see this, really.

    I can't help feeling it's a bit of a concerning insight into the poor state of things at Sheffield at the moment.

     

    Of course you are and so am I, if you read Tigerowl's post you will see genuine frustration expressed in a non personal way, it's as constructive as it can be under the current circumstances. A minority continue to be sarcastic and personal and believe that we are accountable through this forum, I am approachable, I will explain and discuss these issues on a one to one basis and answer honestly or say I cannot answer at all.

     

    I stopped visiting this forum regularly month's ago, occasionally my attention is drawn to posts usually by family members who are surprised at some of the comments when they can see the time and energy that is put into the sport generally without any thanks whatsoever. Jake Knight was mentioned in the PR because we needed to explain why he was not replacing Damien tonight - damned if we do and damned if we don't. The team news that has caused so much consternation is given to the press on a Monday but it was a day late this week because we did not know if the USA were going through to the Race Off in the SWC. We only publish the line ups the day before anyway and this was done yesterday albeit 4 or 5 hours later than usual because of the delay previously mentioned. Our programme is printed on a Thursday morning and if we are lucky we can make late changes to the racecard but for us to publicise the reasons why riders pull out of individual meetings like they did last week would really put the tin hat on it, injuries excepted of course.

     

    What is equally frustrating for me is the fundamental lack of understanding of the complex rules by many fans, even rules that are understood are often interpreted in more than one way. It's almost impossible and this gives the impression we are doing nothing about our problems, we had Adam Roynon under wraps for almost a month but could not introduce him until the regulations allowed, in the meantime we were cursed from a dog to a bitch for allegedly doing nothing. It was suggested by some of the more negative posters that we sign certain riders as a replacement for Simon, one was already out injured another rides in Sweden on a Thursday, another has 5 fixture clashes that would take him to his EL club first, some of these guys simply say thanks but no thanks I'd rather go here or there instead. Just 2 weeks ago a potential number 1 told us he did not want to come to the UK this year and within a week had signed for another club, money was never even mentioned so right now I cannot see a better option than a guest at number 1 not withstanding the possibility that Simon may be in a position to return at some point.

     

    Our problems are not unique at all in the current economical climate and some of the solutions go further than Olwerton, only time will tell.

     

    Currently we have Richard Hall carrying an injury with Simon, Damien and now Joe in the wars, Richard came back too soon from his Berwick crash, Simon from his Workington crash, Damien from his Somerset crash, Facu from his Sheffield crash and Joe wanted to try and ride tonight but pull out if he can't cope. All of this because they are committed and want to do the best they possibly can for the team, losing Simon has been a massive blow to us all we built the team around him and are consequently exposed, it's bad enough losing meetings and trying to keep spirits up without having to hear some of the ill thought out comments that appear in the public domain. Partners, parents and sponsors all make sacrifices and cannot understand some of the vitriol levelled at their rider."it's only frustration" and "it goes with the job" are excuses used by the perpetrators and show even less regard for the targets.

     

    I hope you don't feel this post is aimed at you SS, please view it as a general response to some of the points raised across the thread.

     

    Do have a nice day.

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  17. Posted

    Just read hoggys comments on wanting to use jake tonight !!!!! WHY ? The lad has hardly rode since we dropped him and he was struggling then !!!!! Talk about lack of ambition.Lose tonight and Saturday and god knows what next weeks crowd will be.Good luck to james sarjeant tonight,lets hope he gets enough points to help us to victory.

     

    Any chance you can help us out tonight please? Bring your kevs and helmet, Jake said you can ride his bike and the ref will sort you out a day licence. If you can do that I'll carry on and find a guest to sort our next problem out but as it takes one and a half days to get copy into the Star and the sub editors often snip important information (they are not Speedway folk you see) please don't expect to read about tonight's line up until Saturday.

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  18. Posted · Edited by Hoggy

    And people question why British riders are at the standard that they are - with an attitude like that it's no wonder why.

     

    Speedway is a ruthless sport and points make prizes, if Jake wasn't upto his job in the Sheffield side for whatever reason then it's not rocket science that he is going to be moved on. The right attitude after this would be to take one step back, to take two steps forward and be willing to come back harder than ever - but just throwing the towel in is a poor show.

     

    I deliberately dealt with the release of Jake separately to Adam's announcement, I did not want Jake's contribution and progress, yes progress overshadowed by the new signing. I find your post pretty callous towards a family who have invested heavily in Jake, Sheffield and British Speedway and for once I dictated that press release because every word of it is true. Our decision has of course been influenced but not by his lack of points it has been about keeping our critics happy, yes we heard the "taxi for Knight" calls which is why we fought back at times but reluctantly have had to give in. Who could have planned on their top two copping shoulder injuries in the same month or proven performers not reaching early expectations, nobody plans for that when they put a team together and remedial action when taken has to be within in the rules and regulations. It is clear that many of the destructive comments, posted here and elswhere I'm told, do not understand the rules as the earliest we could possibly have made an effective team change was last Saturday unless we had chosen to release Jake earlier and bring in another 3 pointer.

     

    I have not followed this forum for some time so wil not be entering a debate I'm afraid, what I will say as my final word on the matter is that I will never cease to respect the Knight family for their brave commitment to the Premier League and Sheffield in particular, thank you. David

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  19. Posted

    ok if i got that wrong i will apologise, a clear announcement rather than threat of legal action would of done , you could of pm me.

    but come on this rule (and it is a rule) is wrong and contradicts speedway as a team sport, and while you are there perhaps as dfg has said please clear it up, and perhaps you could get on with my other question in ind/shared events about the british semi's thank you.

     

    Thank you for the apology ...........David

  20. Posted

    they are breaking the rules, sheffield promotions idea, it was voted on at the agm as i understand, but ipswich, rye and somerset i am led to believe were the only votes against it, rediculous i feel a 3-3 can win / draw a match and the guy in 3rd passes his teammate to ensure being paid more, then his teammate gets passed by the guy in 4th 3-3 turns into 4-2 against match lost,or worse crashes into his teammate while trying to pass him, promoters fault not riders.

     

    I'm very happy to invite you to withdraw your comment relative to Sheffield as it is inaccurate and untrue, alternatively you may substantiate it by contacting our associate sponsors Wosskow Brown Solicitors who will be delighted to verify the authenticity of your comment. We'll pick up the tab, a simple "sorry I got that wrong will be fine"

     

    kind regards ..............David

  21. Posted

    David Hoggart has certainly tried his best for you and I just have this feeling you might get your wish..

     

    At least it nearly the end of season and we have the pantomime to look forward to (Hoggys team building) with I expect lead role captain fantastic Richard Hall ��

     

    If you have something to say please have the courtesy to say it to my face like most of our disappointed customers have

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  22. Posted · Edited by Hoggy

    Ashworth having the contract in his hand's, all he had to do is sign it and send it back, how would Mike Bowden be able to change it like some people seem to think he has if the rider has it, and had it in his hand's at least two week's, in my opinion Ashworth should never have agreed to join Plymouth in the first place, only doing so because he would be without a team.

     

     

     

    Maybe next time your down at the SBA i will come over and your can call me pathetic to my face, i stand by what i have said, pathetic or not.

     

    You are right we will never know the full fact's, but by not saying it was Plymouth's fault in any way that say's Mike Bowden did not change the term's of the contract, if he did then that would be a very reason not to come to Plymouth, and he would have said that, would he not

     

    Roger, I have already asked Phil to pull one of your posts where you have insinuated collusion with Berwick. You may choose to have an opinion but when it is untrue and you maintain that inuendo on this forum then please expect me to get warmed up about it. The riders contract is always with his parent club in this case Sheffield, we (Sheffield) provide the loan agreement to Plymouth or whoever he rides for, Ashworth and Mike failed to agree terms and Ashworth informed me he would sit out the start of the season having told Mike accordingly. It was me who set about finding my rider a job and Berwick were more than surprised to hear from me, this was on the afternoon after their young Aussie had been hurt and having lost 2 of their 2012 team I felt it appropriate to make contact. I am also responsible for telling Ashworth to keep his mouth shut and not make any negative comments towards Plymouth or Mike, perhaps now you will rest your opinion too and no longer cast aspersions towards Ashworth, Berwick or indirectly, me.

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  25. Posted

    There are two coaches coming down from Glasgow David . One arriving about 2 hours before the second one .

     

    Thanks Paul, Stewart has mailed me with confirmation too. Any weather doubters? We are forecast 0.5mm of rain in the morning around 10.00 am which will hardly wet the ground and then nothing until 10.00pm, obviously the wind can change things but it is very much stacked in our favour right now.

     

    Thanks ............David

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