2007 Line Up - Any Thoughts

[infernoradio]

dont think richardson can do it really, he has been in the series for 2 or 3 years and i dont think has ever got into the top 8 (correct me if im wrong!) Harris should get in as a wildcard... and matej z if he doesnt get in the top 8.

 

in my opinion:

Jason Crump

Greg Hancock

Nicki Pedersen

Andreas Jonsson

Leigh Adams

Tomasz Gollob

Bjarne Pedersen

Matej Zagar

Hans Andersen

Rune Holta

Wieslaw Jagus

Scotty Nicholls

Jarek Hampel

Antonio Lindback

Chris Bomber Harris

 

top 3 i reckon will be:

Crump

Hancock

Andersen (dont know which order though)

[T.N.T.]

1st CRUMP, Jason 20 25 25 25 20 25 16 14 11 181

2nd HANCOCK, Greg 5 20 20 16 13 9 12 4 25 124

3rd PEDERSEN, Nicki 25 14 16 4 6 9 11 6 18 109

4th JONSSON, Andreas 8 5 10 20 7 9 25 7 16 107

5th ADAMS, Leigh 10 7 11 6 12 16 18 12 8 100

6th ANDERSEN, Hans - - - - 25 18 20 25 4 92

7th ZAGAR, Matej 9 18 4 9 4 10 4 20 11 89

8th LINDBÄCK, Antonio 9 2 6 8 16 4 3 18 20 86

9th HAMPEL, Jaroslaw 4 16 8 18 2 4 10 16 7 85

10th GOLLOB, Tomasz 18 9 18 7 3 7 4 6 4 76

11th NICHOLLS, Scott 9 9 5 8 8 20 8 - 9 76

12th PEDERSEN, Bjarne 5 6 7 12 18 10 8 2 7 75

 

The race for a top 8 finish looks to be going down to the wire with Zagar and Lindback just holding an advantage over Hampel and a slight better gap over Gollob, but both Hampel and Gollob should do well in the last round at BYDGOSZCZ

 

 

Quite frankly, I think all of the 12 riders listed above will return next season along with the three qualifiers of Jagus, Holta and Andersen.

 

Therefore there will be no outside nominations and BSI will claim that all riders had a chance to qualify, so why replace a GP rider with someone who cant get through the qualifiers.

 

Just a guess, but can you say who should be dropped from the top 12 ?

[iris123]

But then you have Hans listed twice.Once in the top 12 and once a qualifier

[madame muck]

1st CRUMP, Jason  20 25 25 25 20 25 16 14 11 181

2nd HANCOCK, Greg  5 20 20 16 13 9 12 4 25 124

3rd PEDERSEN, Nicki  25 14 16 4 6 9 11 6 18 109

4th JONSSON, Andreas  8 5 10 20 7 9 25 7 16 107

5th ADAMS, Leigh  10 7 11 6 12 16 18 12 8 100

6th ANDERSEN, Hans  - - - - 25 18 20 25 4 92

7th ZAGAR, Matej  9 18 4 9 4 10 4 20 11 89

8th LINDBÄCK, Antonio  9 2 6 8 16 4 3 18 20 86

9th HAMPEL, Jaroslaw  4 16 8 18 2 4 10 16 7 85

10th GOLLOB, Tomasz  18 9 18 7 3 7 4 6 4 76

11th NICHOLLS, Scott  9 9 5 8 8 20 8 - 9 76

12th PEDERSEN, Bjarne  5 6 7 12 18 10 8 2 7 75

 

The race for a top 8 finish looks to be going down to the wire with Zagar and Lindback just holding an advantage over Hampel and a slight better gap over Gollob, but both Hampel and Gollob should do well in the last round at BYDGOSZCZ

Quite frankly, I think all of the 12 riders listed above will return next season along with the three qualifiers of Jagus, Holta and Andersen.

 

Therefore there will be no outside nominations and BSI will claim that all riders had a chance to qualify, so why replace a GP rider with someone who cant get through the qualifiers.

 

Just a guess, but can you say who should be dropped from the top 12 ?

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With Hans being in the top 12, take him out , and there will be 1 place to fill. As you mentioned the 3 riders from the qualifer, plus 11 from above makes 1 place left. So the last seed being a brit but which one.....!

Edited September 10, 2006 by madame muck

[Hackett]

1st CRUMP, Jason 20 25 25 25 20 25 16 14 11 181

2nd HANCOCK, Greg 5 20 20 16 13 9 12 4 25 124

3rd PEDERSEN, Nicki 25 14 16 4 6 9 11 6 18 109

4th JONSSON, Andreas 8 5 10 20 7 9 25 7 16 107

5th ADAMS, Leigh 10 7 11 6 12 16 18 12 8 100

6th ANDERSEN, Hans - - - - 25 18 20 25 4 92 - Already qualified

7th ZAGAR, Matej 9 18 4 9 4 10 4 20 11 89

8th LINDBÄCK, Antonio 9 2 6 8 16 4 3 18 20 86

9th HAMPEL, Jaroslaw 4 16 8 18 2 4 10 16 7 85

 

10th GOLLOB, Tomasz 18 9 18 7 3 7 4 6 4 76

11th NICHOLLS, Scott 9 9 5 8 8 20 8 - 9 76

12th PEDERSEN, Bjarne 5 6 7 12 18 10 8 2 7 75

 

Gollob and Hampel likely to have a big big meeting in Bydgoscz so should jump a couple of places ..... Nicholls has sworn if he does not qualify he will not ride next season. So that will be interesting to see how that situation goes because looking at the scores he is going to need a final place.

 

Bjarne Pedersen may be a Wild Card but may have to sweat for a place. He is immediately replaced by another Dane Hans Andersen but in all honesty there is not a great deal of top class riders out there - SO I can see Bjarne getting nominated again.

 

Should Hampel / Gollob have the big meeting in Poland that will be 3 poles in next year , so the WC may go to Freddie Lindgren who is probably ready to make the next big step up.

[KevH]

I do conceed I was wrong

Help yourself folks - another ready made signature.

[Gemini]

But before you do make sure you spell it correctly.......concede.

Sorry!

[Subedei]

A few interesting scenarios present themselves for next year.

 

Wieslaw Jagus (Poland)

Hans Andersen (Denmark)

Rune Holta (Norway, I guess)

 

The above have qualified.

 

Jason Crump (Australia)

Greg Hancock (United States)

Nicki Pedersen (Denmark)

Andreas Jonsson (Sweden)

Leigh Adams (Australia)

 

The above, I'd say, are safe and sound in the top 8 for this season.

Which leaves seven places.

 

Matej Zagar (Slovenia)

 

Has done remarkably well in his debut season and is currently lying 7th (6th if you remove Andersen from the equation). I can't see BSI and the FIM dropping Zagar from the circus - should be safe and sound for 2007.

 

Antonio Lindback (Sweden)

 

Early in the season it didn't look promising for Lindback, but the last couple of GPs have seen him in the final and up to 8th (7th excluding Andersen) in the standings. He had a nightmare at Bydgoszcz last season and a repeat would probably see him dip out of the all-important top 8, but I'd guess he'll be invited back regardless.

 

Jaroslaw Hampel (Poland)

 

A bit hit and miss is young Hampel, but a good performance at Bydgoszcz might be enough to see him hold on to his current 9th (8th excluding Andersen) position and security for 2007. Trouble is, I can't recall too many distinguished Bydgoszcz GP performances from Hampel. Failure to secure a "qualified" position could spell danger for Hampel, with Janusz Kolodziej - a BSI asset at Reading - waiting in the wings.

 

Tomasz Gollob (Poland)

 

Currently 10th in the standing, but his usual Bydgoszcz performance will take him safely into the top 8, but if he fails at Bydgoszcz, you've got to question his continued presence. His recent GP performances have been abject. Should be secure, but you never know.

 

Scott Nicholls (United Kingdom)

 

Has already gone on record as saying failure to qualify as of right would indicate that he isn't good enough to be there. I agree with him. But you suspect that he'll be there regardless of his serial failure to perform. Will be around in 2007, but probably shouldn't be.

 

Bjarne Pedersen (Denmark)

 

Has endured a dreadful time in the GPs this season after his encouraging 2006 season. And that could mean trouble for BP. Will BSI and the FIM really drop Iversen after a single season in which he's by no means disgraced himself? I wouldn't be surprised to see BP suffer the same fate as Hans Andersen last season and find himself dropped from the circus.

 

Lee Richardson (United Kingdom)

 

Maybe it was his performance at Bydgoszcz that saved him last season, or maybe it was his nationality. But surely nothing can save him this time around. And, in all honesty, it'd be a mercy killing to leave him out. Time to put him out of his misery.

Should he be replaced by a fellow countryman? I feel not. But most disagree. So which Briton should replace him? I don't particularly care. Make it Simon Stead - I could do with a good laugh.

Edited September 14, 2006 by Subedei

[J_D]

Crump & Adams = 2 Oz

N Pedersen & H Andersen = 2 Den

Jonsson & Lindback = 2 Swedes

Hampel & Jagus & Holta = 2+1 Poles

Zagar = 1 Slov

Hancock = 1 USA

Nicholls = 1 UK

 

Add

 

B Pedersen to make 3 Den.

 

Either Lindgren or Peter Karlsson to make 3 Swede.

 

Gollob to make 3 +1 Poles.

 

Loser is Iversen. If Gollob quits then choice between Sullivan, Harris, Loram, Kylmakorpi for last spot but probably given to UK rider.

Edited September 14, 2006 by J_D

[T Blair]

It makes a big difference to PK and Bomber and the allocation of wildcards so I would say it matters in a big way.

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i wondered if it could count for Hans now? beacuse hes officially replaced Tony R, so why shouldnt his points count? I understand when he was just the wild card that they couldnt count..... but now isnt he officially a GP rider?

 

And he qualified anyway...!

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Quite funny how in the beginning, it seemed everyone thought Hans shouldn't even be there, then when he is, his points shouldn't count, but when it suits, his points should count!

 

Truth is, if you count Hans' points, then his qualifier doesn't count. This opens the argument for PK finishing 4th in the qualifier to be qualified. Seems fair to me.

 

Alternatively, Nicholls probably won't finish top 8, but if wildcards are chosen to balance the sheets, as it were, then NKI should be out, Richardson should be out and Harris should be in.

 

Lets face it, Richardson sicknotes and bottles too much. He's had his chance. I'm no fan of Bomber, but he's exciting, young and on the up, unlike Richardson. NKI has performed woefully in the GP series, and Bomber outperformed him in the qualifier.

 

Nicholls isn't my favourite either, but he is the British number 1 and is capable when he performs.

 

Oh, and I forgot Lindback... he might be ok for it next year because if Matt Ford has any sense, its the end of EL for Lindback so he'll have plenty of time on his hands next year to prepare (if he's not doing National Service in Brazil)!

Edited September 14, 2006 by T Blair

[norbold]

Given the current state of the scores in the GP with a big gap after 12th placed man, Bjarne Pedersen, I would suggest that those 12 minus Hans Andersen, whose score doesn't count, go in next year's Grand Prix. This leaves four places (plus the wild card each time). Those four should be the four finalists in the qualifier. Sorry, Simon and Bomber...