Pinstripe 0 Posted July 8, 2007 anyone know what happened to jarno kosonen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) how can that happen, people disagreeing with you thats just not right is it! Ps. dont let him go to Poole <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Naah... I had it coming... Just thought it would be different... Pour yourself a glass of Salmiakki and watch the action. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Salmiakki was all gone, someone had beat me to it! But it was a good meeting, alltough the track wasn't that great. Some very interesting development behind the scenes at the moment regarding Finnish Extraliiga speedway. Like said about the Pori meeting in three weeks, that look's to be a real cracker! Teams booking riders from Sweden faster than I can put a name to a face. If the weather permits it will be the meeting of the season. Extraliiga at Pori 27th July, parade starts at 1800 hrs Extraliiga at Kauhajoki 28th July, parade starts 1350 hrs EDIT: Full results from the 2nd Kauhajoki Speedway now online on the bottom of page 9 on this thread. Edited July 9, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spanner47 336 Posted July 9, 2007 Cheers for the info petteri, looks like we've picked a good weekend for our first taste of finnish speedway. See you there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 9, 2007 See you there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> NOT! That's the other week of my vacation, and I'm away from wednesday to sunday... Crap. But hope you enjoy, If you want any advice (perhaps you fly to Tampere) just ask... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 9, 2007 Averages from the Finnish Extraliiga after 5/12 Rider...................Team.....Points..Rides..Avg Kaj Laukkanen.....KOTKAT.....12.....4.....12,00 Juha Hautamäki.....KEITTIÖPISTE.....59.....20.....11,80 Andreas Lekander.....KOPPARBERG.....20.....7.....11,43 Benny Johansson.....KOTKAT.....25.....9.....11,11 Kalle Lindgren.....KOTKAT.....11.....4.....11,00 Kenny Olsson.....KEITTIÖPISTE.....13.....5.....10,40 Rene Lehtinen.....KOTKAT.....37.....15.....9,87 Emil Lindqvist.....KOPPARBERG.....17.....7.....9,71 Tomi Reima.....KOPPARBERG.....47.....23.....8,17 Tero Aarnio.....KEITTIÖPISTE.....24.....12.....8,00 Teemu Lahti.....KEITTIÖPISTE.....16.....8.....8,00 Robert Eriksson.....KOTKAT.....14.....7.....8,00 Jyri Palomäki.....KOPPARBERG.....25.....13.....7,69 Jari Mäkinen.....PAHOLAISET.....42.....24.....7,00 Juha Mäkelä.....KEITTIÖPISTE.....8.....5.....6,40 Petteri Koivunen.....KOTKAT.....3.....2.....6,00 Petri Koskela.....PAHOLAISET.....31.....21.....5,90 Joni Keskinen.....KOTKAT.....19.....13.....5,85 Jani Eerikäinen.....JOKERIT.....11.....8.....5,50 Thomas Ljung.....KOPPARBERG.....8.....6.....5,33 Kalle Katajisto.....JOKERIT.....21.....16.....5,25 Marko Suojanen.....PAHOLAISET.....13.....10.....5,20 Aki-Pekka Mustonen.....PAHOLAISET.....18.....15.....4,80 Timo Villanen.....KOPPARBERG.....3.....3.....4,00 Mikko Rahko.....KOPPARBERG.....10.....11.....3,64 Markku Autio.....JOKERIT.....12.....14.....3,43 Aarni Heikkilä.....HAUKAT.....6.....13.....1,85 Niko Siltaniemi.....HAUKAT.....5.....15.....1,33 Kalle Kivistö.....HAUKAT.....3.....11.....1,09 Janne Nyman.....HAUKAT.....4.....15.....1,07 Juho Ruuska.....JOKERIT.....3.....12.....1,00 Olli Heikkilä.....JOKERIT.....1.....4.....1,00 Toni Stenberg.....KEITTIÖPISTE.....0.....1.....0,00 Tero Villanen.....KOPPARBERG.....0.....2.....0,00 Jouni Viljanen.....PAHOLAISET.....0.....2.....0,00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) Kaupunki Cup last saturday from Kauhajoki. I was told that the local people have more or less got the track sorted now. That's good news. Kauhajoki 53 Jari Mäkinen 33323d 14 Petteri Koivunen 12122 8 Markku Autio 33332 14 Jan-Eric Korkeamäki 0111 3 Timo Villanen 3311 8 Tero Villanen 3R 3 Jonne Perälä 1101 3 Seinäjoki 39 Joni Keskinen 224^323 16 Esa Yrjölä 0020 2 Joni Kitala 2102 5 Janne Nyman 123131 11 Jukka Nieminen d00 0 Ari Tuomisto 22100 5 Johan Ahponen 000 0 Erä erältä: 1. Mäkinen, Keskinen, KOivunen, Yrjölä 63,38 2. Te.Villanen, Tuomisto, Perälä, Ahponen 64,98 3. Autio, Kitala, Nyman, Korkeamäki 62,86 4. Villanen, Tuomisto, Perälä, Ahponen 63,32 5. Autio, Keskinen, Korkeamäki, Yrjölä 61,96 6. Mäkinen, Koivunen, Tuomisto, Nieminen 62,70 7. Villanen, Nyman, Kitala, Te.Villanen R 63,94 8. Nyman, Yrjölä, Koivunen, Perälä 65,59 9. Autio, Keskinen^, Korkeamäki, Tuomisto 62,00 10. Mäkinen, Koivunen, Nyman, Kitala 63,72 11. Keskinen, Mäkinen, Villanen, Yrjölä 62,79 12. Autio, Kitala, Perälä, Tuomisto 63,74 13. Mäkinen, Keskinen, Villanen, Nieminen 63,68 14. Nyman, Koivunen, Korkeamäki, Ahponen 63,78 15. Keskinen, Autio, Nyman, Mäkinen d 63,50 Katsojia 70 Kaupunki Cup from yesterday at Pori. Pori 59 Marko Suojanen 33232 13 Tomi Kauppi 013 4 Appe Mustonen 2123 8 Jari Mäkinen 3333 12 Petri Koskela 331 7 Jouni Viljanen 21220 7 Alexander Edberg 321011 8 Kauhajoki 34 Markku Autio 226^323 18 Tero Villanen 1020 3 Timo Villanen 12121 7 Jonny Korpela 00R 0 Jan-Eric Korkeamäki 1200 3 Olli Heikkilä 0010 1 Jere Mattila 1001 2 Erä erältä: 1. Suojanen, Autio, Te.Villanen, Kauppi 65,44 2. Edberg, Viljanen, Mattila, Heikkilä 68,59 3. Mäkinen, Mustonen, Villanen, Korpela 65,47 4. Koskela, Edberg, Korkeamäki, Mattila 69,33 5. Mäkinen, Autio, Mustonen, Te.Villanen 65,23 6. Suojanen, Korkeamäki, Kauppi, Heikkilä 70,25 7. Koskela, Villanen, Viljanen, Korpela 69,09 8. Kauppi, Te.Villanen, Edberg, Mattila 69,95 9. Mäkinen, Mustonen, Heikkilä, Korkeamäki 67,28 10. Autio^, Suojanen, Villanen, Edberg 66,43 11. Autio, Viljanen, Koskela, Te.Villanen 67,96 12. Mustonen, Villanen, Edberg, Heikkilä 69,13 13. Suojanen, Autio, Edberg, Korkeamäki 66,64 14. Mäkinen, Viljanen, Mattila, Korpela R 66,84 15. Autio, Suojanen, Villanen, Viljanen 66,69 Katsojia 203 One round of this league was postponed because of rain, no new date yet. Edited July 16, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekker 239 Posted July 17, 2007 BTW, what would a Finnish rider get as a starting average in Premier League? 5.00 if he has no experience of top league action in Poland or Sweden, am I correct? Seems that way as Kalle Katajisto is coming to Edinburgh on a 5pt ave, any comments from the finnish mob? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 18, 2007 Seems that way as Kalle Katajisto is coming to Edinburgh on a 5pt ave, any comments from the finnish mob? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My opinions are well documented. Hopefully this will turn out for the better, and when Kalle gets his avg after the needed amount of matches he has a better chance of getting a team place in a few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 18, 2007 Averages from the Finnish Kaupunki Cup (updated 180707) Rider name...Rides...Points...Avg Rene Lehtinen...10...28...11,20 Juha Mäkelä...4...11...11,00 Jari Mäkinen...15...40...10,67 Petri Koskela...18...45...10,00 Kalle Katajisto...18...40...8,89 Markku Autio...20...44...8,80 Joni Keskinen...14...30...8,57 Tero Aarnio...10...21...8,40 Marko Suojanen...14...28...8,00 Janne Nyman...14...28...8,00 Jani Eerikäinen...9...18...8,00 Aarni Heikkilä...15...30...8,00 Appe Mustonen...20...39...7,80 Niko Siltaniemi...13...23...7,08 Tomi Kauppi...7...12...6,86 Timo Villanen...17...29...6,82 Kalle Kivistö...9...14...6,22 Petteri Koivunen...16...23...5,75 Roope Mattsson...12...15...5,00 Joni Kitala...4...5...5,00 Alexander Edberg...13...15...4,62 Markku Weckman...7...7...4,00 Jouni Viljanen...18...17...3,78 Jonne Perälä...7...6...3,43 Esa Yrjölä...14...12...3,43 Ari Tuomisto...13...11...3,38 Heikki Tapani...5...4...3,20 J-E Korkeamäki...12...9...3,00 Mika Vuoristo...7...5...2,86 Tero Villanen...10...7...2,80 Toni Stenberg...4...2...2,00 Olli Heikkilä...8...4...2,00 Juho Ruuska...8...4...2,00 Jere Mattila...4...2...2,00 Johan Ahponen...10...3...1,20 Pasi Mattila...11...0...0,00 Mika Suojanen...2...0...0,00 Jukka Nieminen...3...0...0,00 Jonny Korpela...3...0...0,00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 20, 2007 BTW, what would a Finnish rider get as a starting average in Premier League? 5.00 if he has no experience of top league action in Poland or Sweden, am I correct? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Copypasted from the ACU rulebook: ------------ 17.3.2 Assessed CMA's (and Grades) will be as follows: a) Work Permit Riders EL CMA PL CMA FIM Grand Prix Rider 8.00 not permitted Commonwealth Rider 3.50 7.00 Others (see note 1) 4.00 8.00 Other Riders FIM Grand Prix Rider 8.00 not permitted Professional League (note 2) 4.00 or 5.00 * 8.00 Others (note 3) 3.00 5.00 Conference League 3.00 3.00 Note 1 Including Riders that have not qualified or been selected, excluding nomination as a Wild Card for the FIM GP Series during this and the previous 2 seasons. Note 2 Riders that participate (or have participated) in Czech (Extra), Danish, Polish or Swedish Leagues. Where a Rider has achieved a 6.00+ CMA in either the Swedish or Polish Elite Leagues, then the EL entry CMA shall be 5.00. Note 3 Including Riders that have not qualified or been selected for the FIM GP Series during this and the previous 2 seasons, but not those Riders who have ridden in the CL as an Amateur. 17.3.2.1 Riders failing to achieve an actual CMA of 3.00, will be re-assessed to a CMA of 3.00. ------------ Katajisto was saved by the fact that he indeed has not ridden in any of the leagues considered to be a league by the BSPA/ACU. One heat in any of the Swedish leagues (Elitserien, Allsvenskan, 1st div) would have given him a starting average of 8.00 in the Premiere. Like pointed to me via an example of Daniele Tessari, this might turn out to be a good move. Providing Kalle gets his 6+6 meetings and stays in one piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekker 239 Posted July 20, 2007 Monarchs took the hit with Tessari and gave him a chance and unless Kalle really has problems i cant see it being any different with Kalle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 22, 2007 (edited) Extraliiga from Kuusankoski 21.7.2007. It was nice to receive the heat details written in full. Alltough couple of exclusions might be wrong here. Keittiöpiste 49 Tero Aarnio 32233 13 Andreas Messing 3T33 9 Teemu Lahti 33223 13 Juha Hautamäki 23333 14 Kotkat 32 Benny Johansson 20d20 4 Rene Lehtinen 2222 8 Joni Keskinen 2300 5 Daniel Davidsson 3R3T6^3 15 Haukat 17 Kalle Kivistö 001 1 Aarni Heikkilä 11112 6 Niko Siltaniemi 11211 6 Janne Nyman d112^0 4 Jokerit 16 Jani Eerikäinen 12F 3 Jan-Erik Korkeamäki 0010 1 Juho Ruuska 01010 2 Markku Autio 1224^01 10 Erä erältä: 1. Aarnio, Johansson, Eerikäinen, Kivistö 63,05 2. Messing, Lehtinen, Heikkilä, Korkeamäki 62,00 3. Lahti, Keskinen, Siltaniemi, Ruuska 63,00 4. Davidsson, Hautamäki, Autio, Nyman d 63,50 5. Hautamäki, Lehtinen, Ruuska, Kivistö 64,00 6. Hautamäki, Eerikäinen, Siltaniemi, Davidsson R 63,14 7. Keskinen, Aarnio, Nyman, Korkeamäki 64,18 8. Lahti, Autio, Heikkilä, Johansson 65,16 9. Davidsson, Aarnio, Heikkilä, Ruuska 62,14 10. Hautamäki, Siltaniemi, Korkeamäki, Johansson d 63,33 11. Messing, Autio, Kivistö, Keskinen 62,41 12. Davidsson^, Lahti, Nyman, Eerikäinen F 63,53 13. Davidsson, Lahti, Nyman^, Korkeamäki 63,08 14. Hautamäki, Autio^, Heikkilä, Keskinen 62,64 15. Aarnio, Lehtinen, Siltaniemi, Autio 64,00 16. Messing, Johansson, Ruuska, Nyman 63,27 17. Lahti, Lehtinen, Siltaniemi, Ruuska 63,63 18. Aarnio, Heikkilä, Autio, Johansson 63,14 Standings 6/12 Keittiöpiste KMMK...4 - 172 - 20 Kotkat SeMK..........4 - 153 - 17 Kopparberg VaMK...4 - 138 - 16 Paholaiset PMK.......4 - 111 - 12 Jokerit KauhjMK.....4 - 66 - 10 Haukat SsMK..........4 - 36 - 9 Keittiöpiste and Kotkat meet again today at Seinäjoki. Edited July 22, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 22, 2007 (edited) Extraliiga today at Seinäjoki. Once again a good meeting. Track was a bit dry in the beginning but it was sorted. Alltough Jokerit was clearly at the wrong track today, one of their riders was even lapped, there were a few good battles. Heat 3 where Lehtinen gated and Messing followed. Messing started gathering speed on lap three and dived under Lehtinen on the last lap in turn 3. Lehtinen gave way, I think he thought he already had it in the bag. Heat 4 saw Laukkanen making the gate. Mäkinen and Hautamäki rode side by side until turn 3, where Mäkinen kept it on on the outside and made the pass. Heat 12 saw Messing as a joker. From the start he was half a wheel length in front of Lehtinen as they entered turn 1. Messing simply leaned against Lehtinen to make the room and was gone. Elbows and all... Heat 16 Johansson and Hautamäki (outside) gated and Johansson moved Hautamäki wide in the first corner. It did look a bit harsh but OKish in my book. Hautamäki obviously felt different since he showered Johansson after the finishing line and gave him the finger too. Hautamäki was all red in the pits... Kotkat 47 Daniel Davidsson 32331 12 Benny Johansson 3223 10 Rene Lehtinen 2323 10 Kaj Laukkanen 33333 15 Keittiöpiste 41 Juha Mäkelä 2212 7 Teemu Lahti 12 3 Andreas Messing 3336^22 19 Juha Hautamäki 13222 12 Paholaiset 22 Petri Koskela 11111 5 Marko Suojanen 2121 6 Appe Mustonen 11R1 3 Jari Mäkinen 21113 8 Jokerit 1 Olli Heikkilä 0d00 0 Jan-Eric Korkeamäki 00100 1 Juho Ruuska 00000 0 Markku Autio DNS Erä erältä: 1. Davidsson, Mäkelä, Koskela, Heikkilä 64,21 2. Johansson, Suojanen, Lahti, Korkeamäki 64,24 3. Messing, Lehtinen, Mustonen, Ruuska 63,49 4. Laukkanen, Mäkinen, Hautamäki 61,81 5. Laukkanen, Lahti, Mustonen, Heikkilä d 62,46 6. Hautamäki, Johansson, Koskela, Ruuska 63,70 7. Messing, Davidsson, Suojanen 64,12 8. Lehtinen, Mäkelä, Mäkinen, KOrkeamäki 64,38 9. Davidsson, Hautamäki, Korkeamäki, Mustonen R 64,22 10. Laukkanen, Suojanen, Mäkelä, Ruuska 61,76 11. Messing, Johansson, Mäkinen, Heikkilä 64,48 12. Messing^, Lehtinen, Koskela 64,61 13. Laukkanen, Hautamäki, Suojanen, Heikkilä 62,42 14. Laukkanen, Messing, Koskela, Korkeamäki 61,99 15. Davidsson, Hautamäki, Mäkinen, Ruuska 63,50 16. Johansson, Hautamäki, Mustonen 64,31 17. Mäkinen, Messing, Davidsson, Ruuska 65,09 18. Lehtinen, Mäkelä, Koskela, Korkeamäki 65,20 Standings 7/12 Keittiöpiste...5 - 213 - 24 Kotkat..........5 - 200 - 22 Kopparberg...4 - 138 - 16 Paholaiset.....5 - 138 - 15 Jokerit........5 - 67 - 11 (They had only 3 riders today, 11 includes one point deduction) Haukat.........4 - 36 - 9 Extraliiga averages after 7/12, you cant find these anywhere else. Rider..Team..Points..Rides..Matches..AVG Kaj Laukkanen...KOTKAT...27...9...2...12,00 Andreas Lekander...KOPPARBERG...20...7...1...11,43 Juha Hautamäki...KEITTIÖPISTE...85...30...4...11,33 Kalle Lindgren...KOTKAT...11...4...1...11,00 Kenny Olsson...KEITTIÖPISTE...13...5...1...10,40 Andreas Messing...KEITTIÖPISTE...25...10...2...10,00 Emil Lindqvist...KOPPARBERG...17...7...1...9,71 Rene Lehtinen...KOTKAT...55...23...5...9,57 Daniel Davidsson...KOTKAT...24...11...2...8,73 Tero Aarnio...KEITTIÖPISTE...37...17...4...8,71 Benny Johansson...KOTKAT...39...18...4...8,67 Teemu Lahti...KEITTIÖPISTE...32...15...4...8,53 Tomi Reima...KOPPARBERG...47...23...4...8,17 Robert Eriksson...KOTKAT...14...7...1...8,00 Jyri Palomäki...KOPPARBERG...25...13...3...7,69 Jari Mäkinen...PAHOLAISET...50...29...5...6,90 Juha Mäkelä...KEITTIÖPISTE...15...9...3...6,67 Petteri Koivunen...KOTKAT...3...2...1...6,00 Joni Keskinen...KOTKAT...24...17...4...5,65 Petri Koskela...PAHOLAISET...36...26...5...5,54 Marko Suojanen...PAHOLAISET...19...14...4...5,43 Thomas Ljung...KOPPARBERG...8...6...1...5,33 Kalle Katajisto...JOKERIT...21...16...3...5,25 Jani Eerikäinen...JOKERIT...14...11...3...5,09 Aki-Pekka Mustonen...PAHOLAISET...21...19...4...4,42 Markku Autio...JOKERIT...20...20...4...4,00 Timo Villanen...KOPPARBERG...3...3...4...4,00 Mikko Rahko...KOPPARBERG...10...11...4...3,64 Aarni Heikkilä...HAUKAT...12...18...4...2,67 Niko Siltaniemi...HAUKAT...11...20...4...2,20 Janne Nyman...HAUKAT...7...20...4...1,40 Kalle Kivistö...HAUKAT...4...14...4...1,14 Juho Ruuska...JOKERIT...5...22...5...0,91 Jan-Eric Korkeamäki...JOKERIT...2...9...2...0,89 Olli Heikkilä...JOKERIT...1...8...2...0,50 Toni Stenberg...KEITTIÖPISTE...0...1...1...0,00 Tero Villanen...KOPPARBERG...0...2...1...0,00 Jouni Viljanen...PAHOLAISET...0...2...1...0,00 Next weekend at Pori and Kauhajoki... Good meetings to look forward to if the weather permits. I think the Pori meeting will decide the championship. If Keittiöpiste wins it before Kopparberg it a done deal. If Kotkat wins it before Kopparberg the lead will be tied. If Kopparberg wins it before Keittiöpiste they will have a chance to challenge Kotkat for silver. Kopparberg will definately have two foreigners (not allowed to mention), so will Kotkat and Keittiöpiste. Even Paholaiset have invested in to getting a foreigner, alltough not of the same standard. So enjoy! EDIT: The word is out that Jari Mäkinen, Tero Aarnio and Rene Lehtinen will ride in the Scandinavian final of the European Championship in Esbjerg, Denmark next mont. Someone will either confirm or deny this late this week. Kaj Laukkanen and Juha Hautamäki will ride in the next round of the pairs EC with probably Tero Aarnio as the reserve.Someone will either confirm or deny this late this week. Thats week 30. 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Lake Bodom Comet 2 Posted July 29, 2007 Any news on Kevin Doolan riding in the Finnish League in the near future?? Kittos! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 30, 2007 Any news on Kevin Doolan riding in the Finnish League in the near future?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really. I expect this was a one-off because of the fixture lists dont allow it to necessarily happen again. And alltough I had heard about it about two weeks earlier that he'd be here, Keittiöpiste (his team here) didn't comment about it and in fact had told their riders to keep quiet up about it until they were in a car riding to Pori to get rained off. Results from the weekend tonight, I have them on my home computer, but they dont add up due to a calculation error made by the officials. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
