Coventry 99 % Certain To Be In Elite Next Season Acording To Sandu

[Pollyanna 1]

but its been good fun guessing!

 

 

[no-brakes-uk 76]

Because it is Sandhu's fault.

 

P.S are you the model man?

 

That's me.

[Rigsby 0]

By the same thinking shouldn't the Cov-Pet fans stop convicting the BSPA without evidence?

 

Unfortunately those throwing mud in our direction will get it thrown back.

[Guest roddy]

" It is a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is considered revolutionary"

Edited December 20, 2010 by roddy

[Sir Jasper 192]

I wouldn't have an independent body, just an independent commissioner along the lines of most American sports and Poland's Ekstraliga, with no mandate to actually determine the rules but as someone to oversee the implementation of the rules and to address any concerns and deliver judgement of instances brought to his (or her, let's not be sexist) attention. Thus, Matt Ford (or any of the promotions who called him to complain) could have raised the "Pawlicki situation" (which even he only seems to have noticed after Poole were beaten, or he could've noted it in the play-off final programme) with the commissioner, who could have then considered it and delivered a judgement for the consideration of the BSPA or SCB or ACU.

 

Thats a decent idea and one that should please all, and it should go a long way to stop this type of situation from arising in the future. it would also help if the BSPA set rules for the future ie 12 months in advance this allows teams to plan for the future rather than lurching from one set of rules to another as we seem to have done this year.

 

I applauded the 3 year plan, I didnt particularly agree with all of it, however there was no doubt that promoters were able to plan ahead and think of the future slightly more and it also encouraged Elite teams to try and sign younger riders and build teams rather than throwing one together every November, yes it allowed certain riders to "play the game" and ensure they were in a strong position for the follwoing season however that could be stopped either by a complaints process to the commissioner or rolling averages.

 

It also gave an illusion of professionalism and unity as it really did look like the promoters were working together for the good of the sport in this country. However with the new rulings it all seems to fly in the face of the last 3 years so it definetly was an illusion...

[pirocat 0]

Thats a decent idea and one that should please all, and it should go a long way to stop this type of situation from arising in the future. it would also help if the BSPA set rules for the future ie 12 months in advance this allows teams to plan for the future rather than lurching from one set of rules to another as we seem to have done this year.

 

I applauded the 3 year plan, I didnt particularly agree with all of it, however there was no doubt that promoters were able to plan ahead and think of the future slightly more and it also encouraged Elite teams to try and sign younger riders and build teams rather than throwing one together every November, yes it allowed certain riders to "play the game" and ensure they were in a strong position for the follwoing season however that could be stopped either by a complaints process to the commissioner or rolling averages.

 

It also gave an illusion of professionalism and unity as it really did look like the promoters were working together for the good of the sport in this country. However with the new rulings it all seems to fly in the face of the last 3 years so it definetly was an illusion...

 

" ie 12 months in advance " I may be missing the point but it does seem like a lot of fans are happy for the change so long as they have a good shout at the title again this year. Had the shoe been on any other foot I would expect blue murder.

[javw 21]

Then let them roll the dice and take their chances.

 

 

My comment was not intended to be confronational, merely to demonstrate to the referred post that the dispute has not been resolved and that there are two sides to every story.

 

I sincerely hope that legal action does not ensue and that this can be resolved to the satisfaction of all parties.

 

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[javw 21]

As has the BSPA !

 

No idea whose fault it is, since information is so sparse.

 

 

Totally agree

Edited December 20, 2010 by The Mad Monk

[doc61 0]

" ie 12 months in advance " I may be missing the point but it does seem like a lot of fans are happy for the change so long as they have a good shout at the title again this year. Had the shoe been on any other foot I would expect blue murder.

no i think the issue is that changing the rules after some teams have started planning for the following season can be looked upon as sour grapes.

 

panthers have built up a good base of young riders some of which they were possibly hoping to bring into the side this year, now despite planning ahead they have had an increase in their points cost of 20%.

 

and like i have already said coventry havent broke any rules so why get punished.

 

some argue that its not being applied retrospectively but in my opinion it is.

at the start of 2010 season every rider knew that what they finished the season with they would start the following 2011 season with, however by changing the rules for 2011 the bspa are basically saying we are changing what every rider thought at the start of 2010.

 

lets change any rules that they want to change by a democratic decision but give every team notice that this is to happen ie from the start of the 2012 season.

 

plan ahead and we wont have this argument every year

[Dogstar 3]

no i think the issue is that changing the rules after some teams have started planning for the following season can be looked upon as sour grapes.

 

panthers have built up a good base of young riders some of which they were possibly hoping to bring into the side this year, now despite planning ahead they have had an increase in their points cost of 20%.

 

and like i have already said coventry havent broke any rules so why get punished.

 

some argue that its not being applied retrospectively but in my opinion it is.

at the start of 2010 season every rider knew that what they finished the season with they would start the following 2011 season with, however by changing the rules for 2011 the bspa are basically saying we are changing what every rider thought at the start of 2010.

 

lets change any rules that they want to change by a democratic decision but give every team notice that this is to happen ie from the start of the 2012 season.

 

plan ahead and we wont have this argument every year

And also let's not delude ourselves that the likes of Poole and Wolverhampton would not have agreed deals with the riders they wanted to keep long before the AGM, based on their green sheet averages at season end being their starting averages for 2011. Just because they don't announce them straight away doesn't mean they haven't been signed up or agreed new deals. All signs point to the fact that some Clubs were very worried about the team Coventry were putting together and decided to sabotage their plans.

Edited December 20, 2010 by Dogstar

[pirocat 0]

no i think the issue is that changing the rules after some teams have started planning for the following season can be looked upon as sour grapes.

 

panthers have built up a good base of young riders some of which they were possibly hoping to bring into the side this year, now despite planning ahead they have had an increase in their points cost of 20%.

 

and like i have already said coventry havent broke any rules so why get punished.

 

some argue that its not being applied retrospectively but in my opinion it is.

at the start of 2010 season every rider knew that what they finished the season with they would start the following 2011 season with, however by changing the rules for 2011 the bspa are basically saying we are changing what every rider thought at the start of 2010.

 

lets change any rules that they want to change by a democratic decision but give every team notice that this is to happen ie from the start of the 2012 season.

 

plan ahead and we wont have this argument every year

 

Ok Point taken on board but surely all teams know how this has worked and if they want change then the AGM is the place to bring it up for that change to come in the following season. By this I mean every other team will not have started team planning in until they know the rules set at the AGM.

Please note doc61 this is not aimed at you but before I get drawn into the pointless debate we lost fair and square and I have no grudge against Cov. Really hope you guys are with us next season.

[190557 17]

Official statement on Coventry Website!

[doc61 0]

Ok Point taken on board but surely all teams know how this has worked and if they want change then the AGM is the place to bring it up for that change to come in the following season. By this I mean every other team will not have started team planning in until they know the rules set at the AGM.

Please note doc61 this is not aimed at you but before I get drawn into the pointless debate we lost fair and square and I have no grudge against Cov. Really hope you guys are with us next season.

piro i am really offended by what you have written.

 

im not a coventry fan lol.

 

i was actually thinking more of panthers who i do support and rik frosts forward planning with assets like bach north bjerre jnr poole and then signing sundstrom. these riders are now 20% dearer in points terms

[bazaar3 0]

Has it not occurred to you that Coventry and Peterborough might actually have grounds for a legal challenge.

 

 

 

 

What...you mean like the same legal challenge that England have about their world cup bid to FIFA.

 

Democracy rules.....no club is bigger then all combined.

 

I can't see anyway how they can legally challenge and if they did they would be wasting more money like the 6 figures they did last season.

[YerRopes 3,009]

Today's latest Coventry Speedway statement can be found below (don't hold your breath)...

 

Excluding the info gathered from the Swindon do last Thursday, I would very much like to know if anyone in the BSPA is actually going to impart some official news re the 2011 EL League or are we to be continually treated like mugs and kept in the dark forever !

 

http://www.coventryb...php?extend.1438