Cost Cutting - How

[ciderman 100]

Reading Rob Lyons concerns regarding riders costs spiralling, along with the comment 'no easy answer' as to how to stop them increasing further.

 

What can realistically be done to cut them?

[THE DEAN MACHINE 4,748]

Jawa have the answer ,its up to speedway to grasp it

[OveFundinFan 4,142]

Jawa have the answer ,its up to speedway to grasp it

 

Whats Jawas answer?

[THE DEAN MACHINE 4,748]

A new engine 570cc 2 valve that hopefully will be a stock engine instead of the free for all tuning ones that speedway currently has.

[OveFundinFan 4,142]

Sounds good, they were only 2 valvers back in JAP and early Eso/Jawa days and the racing was good, they dont need all this power they have now, which seems to be sapped up somewhat by the "new" silencers anyway

Thanks.

[THE DEAN MACHINE 4,748]

This is a opportunity that speedway must take and make it happen ,not just british speedway but every league, but will it ? . There are plenty with the attitude of" im alright jack" while the sport dies round their feet ,unfortunatly these people hold top power in the sport .

[proud panther 1,505]

Surely the 2 valve Jawa's will still need tuning, giving the riders the opportunity to adjust them & gain an advantage ?

[THE DEAN MACHINE 4,748]

Surely the 2 valve Jawa's will still need tuning, giving the riders the opportunity to adjust them & gain an advantage ?

thats why they need to make them stock engines like in other sports (take away expensive fancy parts).take the tuning out of the sport. Someone somewhere will always try to gain an advantage but it works in other sports ,no reason it wouldnt work in ours. It also will cut revs down a couple of 1000s and hopefully will cut down prices by half .yes GM and some tuners will be hit but speedway owes nobody any favours and i dont see any of them doing anything for speedway in its hour of need

[Trees 2,814]

Let's hope they're listening!!

[ford 26]

thats why they need to make them stock engines like in other sports (take away expensive fancy parts).take the tuning out of the sport. Someone somewhere will always try to gain an advantage but it works in other sports ,no reason it wouldnt work in ours. It also will cut revs down a couple of 1000s and hopefully will cut down prices by half .yes GM and some tuners will be hit but speedway owes nobody any favours and i dont see any of them doing anything for speedway in its hour of need

Virtually every rider has a GM any way, so the BSPA should get a camshaft developed to make some usable mid range power, fit rev limiters and use air filters that actually filter the dust out of the air also ultimately have an oil filter on the engine and these engines now used would be bullet proof.

This should be paid for by the BSPA and use type approved homologated parts.

[*JJ 512]

Except that 'the BSPA' doesn't have any money ... the rev limiter should be brought in asap, though. The main trouble is that speedway engines are unique to this sport, are made in very small quantities which means that prices are very high (we have just spent £290 on a piston!). Using a new engine would simply mean that all riders, even non-paid and amateurs, would have to fork out around £2,000 for a new engine. Very nice for Jawa but not for someone trying to establish himself, paying for his racing on a low wage.

[Humphrey Appleby 13,958]

thats why they need to make them stock engines like in other sports (take away expensive fancy parts).take the tuning out of the sport.

 

Until riders start using 'standard' engines with selected parts...

[Guest]

Except that 'the BSPA' doesn't have any money ... the rev limiter should be brought in asap, though. The main trouble is that speedway engines are unique to this sport, are made in very small quantities which means that prices are very high (we have just spent £290 on a piston!). Using a new engine would simply mean that all riders, even non-paid and amateurs, would have to fork out around £2,000 for a new engine. Very nice for Jawa but not for someone trying to establish himself, paying for his racing on a low wage.

 

Are we only looking at this "engine debate' from a UK angle? How can it be implemented worldwide and would non-UK linked riders accept these changes just to satisfy the needs of British speedway.

On Facebook I see action photos from many countries - no signs there either of Air Fences...although that's possibly a different theme at the moment to the current debate?

[speedibee 3,091]

Except that 'the BSPA' doesn't have any money ... the rev limiter should be brought in asap, though. The main trouble is that speedway engines are unique to this sport, are made in very small quantities which means that prices are very high (we have just spent £290 on a piston!). Using a new engine would simply mean that all riders, even non-paid and amateurs, would have to fork out around £2,000 for a new engine. Very nice for Jawa but not for someone trying to establish himself, paying for his racing on a low wage.

. never mind rev limiters that can be fiddled . just more complicated sh!t that we dont need , £2000 quid for an engine which would last for a season would pay for itself in no time with "services" at £450 a time . and speedway benefits with better racing , its a winner , and the radical move thats needed before Peter johns and co buy themselves an Island each and sit around talking about the good old days when there was Speedway .

 

Until riders start using 'standard' engines with selected parts...

did you know Humphrey . Barack Obama is Black ?

[moxey63 1,785]

Like The Dean Machine, I feel too much money is going out of the sport on engine tuning. In addition, even NL riders are having their engines tuned regularly just to feel they have a chance Somebody is having to pay the costs.

 

Riders, past and present, like Dean, who genuinely love the sport and are willing to avail their experiences, surely we should be listening to them. With respect, Dean was not in speedway to make a fortune and retire at 30, he obviously has a love for it and that's why he's on here (with us plebs) .

 

We should be listening to this type of guy, who has survived on the basics - perhaps like Mark Burrows etc - and then see what cloth the sport is able to cut accordingly.