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I love your attempt at trying to deflect the allegations against Poole Palm Toft pulled out when Redcar raced at Eastbourne after 2 rides. He then missed numerous matches for Redcar and Kings Lynn.............you know Kings Lynn...the track that MPT flies around......you know Kings Lynn.....the team that cant make the play offs.....you know Kings Lynn....nothing to gain from Palm Toft not riding.... Ricky Wells RODE a full meeting for Edinburgh on Sunday He then was declared 'unfit to ride at Kings Lynn...you know Kings Lynn.... a track that Wells is awful at Poole want to finish top............everything to gain for replacing Wells Wells then deemed 'unfit' to ride at Poole Thursday.......Poole get in track specialist Douglas in. Wells like 'Lazurus' is able the next evening to not only ride for Edinburgh but get a maximum If you think the Palm Toft/Wells situations are the same that you are quite clearly deluded..........as proved that your post was liked by Shovlar lol If Wells does not ride Monday..does not do the play offs...then its cheating plain and simple......Poole speedway mantra

Should’ve supported your old boys rather then sticking with your usual stance of anyone but Glasgow

Well at least refurbishment of the back straight bogs is underway https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/14/gold-toilet-reportedly-stolen-blenheim-palace-cattelan

The attraction is that it helps to maintain interest in the sport. I cannot understand why people think it is a bad thing to have speedway on tv. I remember the 1990s, when there was no speedway on, and it helped towards the decline. I think a major contribution towards falling crowds has been the points limit - even more so now it is lower. I remember Oxford in the 80s. Succesful team. Big crowds. Eventually the points limit got them. Crowds visibly dropped instsntly. It's then hard to get those lost supporters back. So, another team takes over from Oxford. They then finish top, get nobbled by the points limit. The crowds drop. Then another team. Then another team. And so on, until, eventually, Swindon get to win the league. Then they get get nobbled by points limit too. Vicious circle. The only other time I've seen an instant, visible drop in crowds was when the double points replaced tatical subs. Did those people return when the tac subs came back? Not many, I'll bet. Anyone who thinks wesker sides is the key to the future, by the way, is clearly nuts.

justice in speedway . depends on who you know, and more importantly who you are riding for at the time of any incident .

Is it what has driven the majority of people away though? If it was purely down to racing then Belle Vue, Scunny etc would be packed to the rafters. I’d suggest there are several factors ie admission cost, rule bending, poor atmosphere, poor facilities, poor marketing etc.

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Where did you get the idea that Mondays and Thursdays are because of BT? Surely Mondays and Thursdays are because Poland have weekends, Sweden have Tuesdays and Denmark have Wednesdays.

well here we go again for one last time as the potters take on the cubs in the last ever meeting at loomer road. as per usual both teams have riders missing which is a shame but hey ho lets just enjoy it and hope it is a good and fitting match to end on. I am sure it will be a very emotional and sad evening. to hear dave tattum on local radio in the week was very hard to listen to and no matter what axe to grind with him anyone may have had in the past surely we can turn out in numbers and just enjoy some good racing on a very good track and do the promotion proud. for me this is probably the end of my time watching speedway as after reading about the sharp practice and manipulation going on at poole last night the premier league is not for me thank you very much. the win at all cost attitude of some promoters is doing the sport no favours and will drive good honest supporters away from the sport as it all leaves a bitter taste for some fans. anyway that is enough drivel from me so come on the potters lets go out with heads held high and good luck to all the riders on both sides but just a tad more luck for the potters please.

Something that the club would've known, last Saturday anyway, and definitely in the last few days, yet chose to say nothing. Not even the clubs un-official spokesman on here could bring himself to let us know. Very poor, but not a complete shock.

He has been in poor form for quite a few weeks for Poole hasn't he?If that is the case,why didn't Poole get rid of him just before the transfer deadline.It would have all been done according to the rules then you wouldn't get all this nonsense.

Don't see why anyone should be critical of Berwick's performance last Wednesday. Birmingham always looked more likely to win and several times the match seemed to be running away from Berwick, but they showed dogged resilience in battling back and had a real chance of snatching it at the finish. A single point wasn't enough for them to keep alive their play-off place in the end - but they certainly deserved the point they did get.

Well, I can only speak as a Swindon fan. This season has been the best racing for several years at Blunsdon. I’ve seen more passing in one meeting than in several years, which suggests that it is the type of track, which needs to be considered. I would say the best tracks for speedway, I’ve seen anyway, are all similar Peterborough, NSS, Somerset and this year Swindon. I’ve not been to Norfolk or PL tracks so can’t include them but those tracks mentioned certainly show good close racing with multiple lines to ride. I wasn’t aware there was a 5 year tv deal in the offing until I read flagrag’s comments. That is welcome news given the general pessimism surrounding the sport and shows to me that the sport itself is still well regarded, certainly within tv, otherwise, why commit on a long term basis. Go back to the 2 youngsters at reserve. 23 and under with GB only or certain qualifying criteria for non UK, team that wins league teams use their average, have a week of speedway some time in Summer holiday where its £5 entry across the board with supporters to be registered to local club to be eligible at the start of the season (or agreed cut off) but pay normal price to own club’s fixtures. Reciprocal agreements for matches between clubs e.g £30 entry, programme and travel. The deal I just had with the match at BV for the cup final was superb value. There is no way I would have gone without the deal and BV received an additional coach load of fans they wouldn’t have ordinarily seen. There really needs to be more collaboration between clubs and leagues for speedway to grow. The sport is struggling because there is too much self interest, at all levels, with promoters only concerned for their own club and not the sport as a whole. Promoters have to go out and sell the sport and your target audience are the children, pure and simple. It’s them that have to be engaged, not me. There is a whole generation that either don’t know about speedway, or have never been introduced. That needs to change. If it’s BT that is looking at the 5 year deal then there should be a caveat about going to schools or marketing the sport locally. Lee Kilby has undertaken lots of initiatives at Swindon and responds to fans quickly via social media, gets things sorted and clarified but he is a lone wolf (there may be others but they are the exception rather than the rule) and that enthusiasm needs to be seen across the sport. I’ve enjoyed the racing again at Swindon, it’s the reason we all go and should be the primary consideration of all clubs. The rest, including marketing, sponsorship and new supporters will be easier with decent racing and we can hopefully look forward to a future for the sport.

If it’s possible for a rider to be ‘stood down’ or for him to ‘withdraw his services’ for the Play Offs then the transfer deadline might as well be done away with as a club could use the same guest for its four play off meetings thus effectively signing that rider for the remainder of the season.

Can't wait for the next press release which gives the reasons Wells is out of the play offs!! Gonna be comedy gold!

A decent meeting at Eastie tonight watched by a big crowd. The highlight for me was two brilliant rides from Scott Nicholls to pass Lawson and Schlein. There's still life in the old boy!.

As should any foreigner wanting to ride over here. If they are good enough to ride in another country the minimum should never be less than 4.

I guess Fraud rubs off on some Poole fans.

Probably because it sounds like Shielfield

No bumps or ruts now AORLOV. Craig Cook says it's lovely to race on. Don't worry though i'm sure we can disguise a few well positioned holes to upset Doyley an Batch etc. Ha ha

It will be a long time before Shovlar apologises for the rumour he started. If i had put everything i have heard over the years on here the forum would have been in meltdown.Some times you just have to keep stum,on this occasion Steve couldn't.

So you started the rumour then.You didn't have to put that on here,but then you can't help yourself.

I just don't see how it is more interesting watching a sporting event where I already know the score. I know what you mean about all the fill ins though. I normally start watching about an hour after the start and skip bits until I catch up.

And Palm Toff pulls out on Thursday, but rides Friday, not a mention about that, how strange but know surprise

Last i saw he was on 3.65 albeit had a couple of falls whilst in scoring positions. Lowest he can go is on a 4.00 obviously but that would be a good average for Sam with next season in mind.

poiole are staging there meeting in October it will probably be . the end of season bash when we parade the premiership trophy around Wimborne road

That’s a 28 day ban - Edinburgh will be pleased. If he continues to ride in CL and not PL then just shows how corrupt British Speedway is

Too bloody right it does!

Where was this appeal held,and who are the people behind SCB who were on the panel.?My guess is the the appeal was held down the pub,with the fine for cook being just keep the beers coming until he got the lot pissed,and the statement was all the could muster up because they were so drunk!!!

When it comes to Greg, I think that Phil Rising said it best a few years ago when talking about a possible wildcard for a different rider, who was much younger than Greg.... "Look to the future. ****** is a lovely guy but frankly has had his time and does he really get the pulses racing..." As far as I can see, this fits perfectly for Greg...

Totally other end of the scale.Toft actually withdrew from a meeting riding for Redcar.Somehow Wells completed his rides for Edinburgh but gets injured. Why would Lynn want to pull the injury card for a rider who is riding well at the moment,especially at the NA.I could understand your thinking had Toft been scoring 1's and 2's like Wells but he wasn't. Don't really think the stick is being aimed at Wells but Poole who are likely to have instigated it.

Dag admitted in his very candid interview with Backtrack many years ago that he had reached the point where he lost his verve for racing and was scared of being seriously injured. When that happens to a rider, he is right to pack in.

Swindon have nearly tracked the same 1 -7 for last two years with hardly any guests it's never been better .. never heard nothing form any Swindon fan being worried about Ellis Perks riding for a Pl side ...as I said just more myths made up . Because of the high ave age of a speedway fan they tend to moan about most things some with good reason but most of the time just for the sake of it .

Some comments made by (I think) Dale Allitt in the SS last week were worth reading a few times. I came to the conclusion from his words that at Wolverhampton, Cook was taken out of the match by Paramedics because he was experiencing some kind of mental meltdown, which Allitt found distressing to witness. If that was actually what happened, then shouldn't Craig Cook have been automatically barred from riding for a set time period, both for his own well being, and the safety of other riders?

Its a laughable decision. Cook is guilty of starting the whole sequence of events which led to other bans. In essence his club as got off scott free....not fair at all. What is even more laughable is people saying 'leave him alone, he's got mental health issues'...well if that's the case he definitely should not be on a speedway track right now.

Well said. Old bob sadly has an axe to grind with certain folk at Eastbourne and his bitter posts are a little sad but so predictable. Sounds like it was a good night of racing which when it comes to it, is all any sensible fan wants to see.

Well you could look at it this way, the home fans are already used to that time and attend on that basis. As for my own case, for example, I would still have to have an afternoon off to go, so the hour earlier start doesn't really make any difference. In fact it would earlier on the road back home ! I suppose the issue might be getting new home fans to come at that time.

Shov himself thinks guests would make you stronger, as you can see by his response above.

You will also find that you can add Swindon to those two since the track shape was changed and the amount of work on the surface since then.

Neither of them ride for a team owned by the chaiirman of the BSPA though, do they? That's the difference.

I think if you’d seen the Glasgow match last night you might think differently about the league. 7 ride Ulle might have something to say about the Cup too (unless we wait until October of course)

I would say that it's never ideal to run a double header. Don't forget Glasgow are in the Play-offs, so need to keep at least one - maybe two weeks - free for those matches. I would also suggest that the Glasgow promotion can probably take the hit on the potential losses they will endure, unlike most other clubs.

That little Lisa she likes to cast a few bread crumbs onto the water

On behalf of myself and I'm sure I can speak for all my friends at both King's Lynn and Mildenhall, enjoy tonight in front of what I hope will be a massive crowd, as the hard work of all concerned over the past few years deserve that. As cityrebel said, don't be shy to shed a tear, because I know if I was there, I would, and I'm a complete neutral, nobody wants to see a track close down. Before moving to Norfolk to live, I'd been a life long fan of Wimbledon, and although on the day of their closure I had moved to my new home, Mike Bennett gave me honour of returning and filming the meeting for him (main camera), and I'm proud to say that I cried my eyes out during the final race, to the point where I couldn't see what I was doing. Let your emotions go and don't hold back, and feel proud to have supported your local club the Stoke 'Potters' through good times and bad. I'm so pleased that I made the journey up for your KOC fixture against Plymouth earlier this year, and took some photos of the stadium and riders. I wonder if there is any way that the promotions of Buxton & Stoke could join forces, and bring racing back to High-Edge Raceway, so that the fans of both clubs could continue to enjoy their favourite sport for many years to come still. Whatever the future should hold for you loyal Potters fans, I wish you nothing but the best, and good luck to you all, I'm so, so sorry..

He will get an average after completing tonights meetings.

It doesn't! Surely any Championship guest for Wells would be up to 4.39 x 1.5 = 6.59? It makes me smile when Wells gets all this stick by riding for Edinburgh this evening but MPT misses last night's meeting, is replaced by Bomber yet rides for Redcar tonight!!!?

Yes, he should have been automatically barred for a set period of time. For everyone's safety ( including his own ). Allitt's description was painful to read and we can only imagine how much more painful to witness. The BSPA and the SCB always claim that rider safety is their highest priority, but it does not seem so in this case.

For many speedway fans it is irellivant and they will just watch both happily, but to give in this case Kent fans a chance to get an early get away and not require 2 days of work is a bonus (I ve seen people ask how you police it, well simply charge the full price on entry and give them 7 quid back at the turnstiles if they leave before heat 1 of meeting 2.) And also allows those Colts fans unable to leave work early the chance to come knowing thier meeting wont start till 8.45 ish and they too dont have to pay to see a match against Kent that is meaningless to them.

Only 30 odd years, so have a vague idea. What you tend to get now is 1 full meeting, and a rushed 10 heats to follow. (Last year at stoke we were treated to a ten heat meeting followed by a 15 heat meeting which was a strange way to do it) Usually the 2nd meeting will feature 2 or 3 riders from the away team in the first meeting as guests for either side in the 2nd match. Coventry always offered split admission for Storm double headers and I recall in the past various meetings I ve attended as a neutral at different tracks offering away fans similar deals. Just because something is the norm, speedway not offering VFM in this case, it doesn't make it correct and doesn't mean it cant be changed.