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I wouldn't know... it's just the way it is set up. The Moore Park Page was also a group, but there is currently a new one under construction which is an actual Page for the public. http://www.facebook.com/Mooreparkmotorcylespeedway?fref=ts I think the group part is mainly aimed at the riders, officials and like minded people as they can then get application forms etc added to the group also.

I think it's more a case of it being a 'group' rather than a 'page' on Facebook which means it can not be viewed so easily. A more in-depth look at the rules for you: INTERPROVINCIAL SOLO TEAMS COMPETITION RULES & REGULATIONS OVER VIEW / GENERAL 1. A teams challenge competition consisiting of a home and an away match for each team 2. Teams gain points for their finishing position in the match to accumulate to a final tally. The team with most points at the end of the competition is the competition’s winnning team. 3. Each team will present five (5) team members chosen from a pool of eight (8) SNZ licenced riders to compete in each match. A number six (6) rider (reserve) may also be used as described below 4. The eight (8) pool members from each province will be ranked in order from 1 to 8 and registered with the competition co ordinators/adjuicators. Riders may only be chosen from the registered list for each match. 5. The competition will be overseen by co-ordinators Rick Lang and Mike Provost who will also act as adjudicators. Their decision will be final. Either one or both will be present at each match. They may appoint any person to act in their place should either be unable to attend. 6. All competition announcements will be directly from the competition co-ordinators only 7. After notification from the team managers, teams for each match will be approved and officially announced only by the competition co-ordinators at the same time. This is to prevent any team having an advatage by naming after the opposing team. 8. Speedway New Zealand rules and regulations will be adhered to throughout the match with any modifications listed with in these competition rules. MATCH RULES TEAM MAKEUP 9. Each match shall consist of two five (5) rider teams.Team riders are numbered 1 to 5. These allocated numbers will be their racing number and order for the match on the day 10. Riders 1, 2 & 3 are considered heat leaders and may be of any order or position (as longs as higher than the match riders 4 and 5) in the team rider rankings. Riders 4 & 5 are the lower ranked riders for the match with rider 5 the lowest and are treated as reserve riders who maybe interchanged to replace any rider of equal or higher ranking during the match. Riders 4 & 5 are the only riders that maybe interchanged during the match except for otherwise mentioned in these rules. 11. No rider may have more than six (6) or less than three (3) rides (excepting injury) in any match. 12. Teams may also have a 6th (sixth)rider present at the match. This rider maybe used during the match only to replace an injured rider who cannot continue racing in the match. Rider six (6) may take the place of the injured rider or rider 4 or 5 if these are used as the replacement, bearing in mind the maximum number of rides reserves are allowed. The 6th (sixth) rider must be ranked lower than the match heat leaders and may only have a maximum of three (3) rides in the match. Once an injured rider has been replaced and the 6th rider used, the rider replaced cannot return to the match. The league co ordinator must approve the replacement and the opposing team notified of the 6th rider replacement. 13. I f a team has not arrived with a number six (6) rider, the host team may provide a rider to fill this role. In this case the rider used doesnot have to be a registered rider with the competition, but the competition co-ordinator must be advised and approve. TEAM MANAGER 14. Each team shall have a Team Manager who shall:- (i) Supply the competition co-ordinators with any information, logos, sponsors etc. the team may have. (ii) Notify the competition co-ordinators of the team makeup and any team changes before each match. (iii) Ensure the team arrives complete, correct and ontime for each match (iv) Is responsible for the conduct of all team members and assistants (v) Ensure all machines are checked by the track vehicle checker and riders are signed in with all paper work completed (vi) Allocate the team members their racing numbers and notify officials before riders briefing (vii) Ensure riders and machines bear the correct rider racing number (viii) Appoint a team captain from the 1 – 5 for the match (ix) Oversee the team during the event and be responsible for riders being in their correct heats and grids on time (x) Notify the clerk of the course should a rider require the two minute bell (xi) Notify the clerk of the course and competition co-ordinator of any rider or machine changes / replacements / tacticals or any other issues. (xii) At no time is the team manager to approach the referee or steward during the match. Under SNZ rules only a rider and or the riders’ representative may do so. (xiii) Follow any directions given by the referee, steward, clerk of course and / or competition co-ordinator MATCH RACING RULES 15. Each match shall consist of a heat format as supplied by the competition co-ordinators in which two teams will compete to gain points. The team with the most points at the conclusion of the heats is the winner. (i) In each heat points scoring shall be 3 - 2 – 1 – 0 in order of rider finishing (ii) Tactical Substitute - After the conclusion of heat four (4), a team which is six (6) points or more in arrears may use a tactical rider replacement. Any rider of the 1 – 3 may be used as a tactical substitute to replace any other team rider in any one of the remaining heats, but not the final heat, as long as the team remains six (6) points or more in arrears. A team may only use a tactical substitute once in the match. The opposing team, clerk of the course and co ordinator must be notified. (iii) Joker – A team which is eight (8) points or more in arrears may play a Joker. This will enable a nominated rider to score double points in a nominated heat only. The joker maybe played at any time after heat four ( 4), but not in the final heat. The team must be eight (8 ) points or more in arrears at the time of playing the Joker. A team may only use the Joker once in a match. The opposing team, clerk of the course and co ordinator must be notified. (iv) Should the teams be tied on points at the conclusion of the heats both teams shall choose one rider each to compete in a 4 lap runoff to decide the match. (v) Tape exclusions. Riders incuring a starting tape infringement shall in the first incident be allowed to restart in their grid 20m behind. A rider incuring a second infringement during the match in any heat shall be excluded from the heat and not be replaced in that heat. (vi) Riders deemed excluded by the referee (fallen or otherwise) in any heat cannot be replaced in that heat by another rider. (vii) Riders eligible for restart after a race stoppage but unable to make the restart for any reason shall not be replaced in that heat. (viii) Riders may change machines up until the the rider is in the starters control at the starting tapes for the initial start of the heat unless otherwise stated in these rules (ix) Riders eligible for restart after a race stoppage may only change machines if their machine is damaged and unable to be ridden safely. If a rider’s machine is still running and in race trim at the time of the stoppage it maynot be replaced. (x) Starting positions. There will be four starting positions controlled by the starting tapes for each heat. These positions will be 1, 2, 3, 4 from the pole line to the safety fence. In each heat a team will be allocated either 1 & 3 or 2 & 4 starting positions. In each heat the two riders for each team will decide which of the team allocated grids they occupy for the start. The allotment of grids will be decided before the racing commences at the riders’ briefing. The ‘away’ team captain will have grid choice for the first heat, thereafter the grids will alternate each heat for each team. This will be notified to all riders at the briefing. (xi) All SNZ racing rules to be adhered to unless modified in these rules MATCH SCORING 16. Completed matches (i) The match winning team will be awarded 3 points (ii) The losing team finishing less than 6 points of the winning team will be awarded 1 point (iii) Bonus points: A team scoring 5 or more heat maximums (3+2) will be awarded 1 bonus point 17. Abandoned / Drawn Matches (i) For matches abandoned and considered drawn both teams will be awarded 2 points each (being ½ of the 3 points for a win and ½ of the 1 bonus point for losing team within 6 points 1 ½ + ½ = 2 points) Plus any other bonus point earned for heat maximums as in Rule 14 (iii) 18. At the conclusion of all matches in the competition, the team with the most points will be declared winner. Should no clear winner be evident, a countback system shall be used as below. 19. Should teams be tied on points and no clear winner decided, a countback system as below (in order) will be used and the winning team shall be: (i) In the first countback - the team which has scored the most bonus points over the series. If this is inconclusive then go to point (ii) (ii) In the second countback - the team with the higher points differential over the matches in which the teams concerned met. If this is inconclusive then got to point (iii) (iii) In the third countback - the team with the higher points differential over the complete series of matches Squads: Auckland Rhinos 1 Sean Mason 2 Bradley Wilson-Dean 3 Ryan Terry-Daly 4 Dylan Hancock 5 Brady Mudgeway 6 Jason MacKay 7 Billy Graham 8 Bradley Andrews Managers: Steve Etches Tanya Bagshaw Canterbury Comets: 1 Dale Finch 2 Andrew Aldridge 3 Kody Tocher 4 Brannon Coppard 5 Ryan Moss 6 Craig Blackett 7 Konnor McClusky-Young 8 Andy Walker Manager: Rhys Hamburger Southland Outlaws: 1 Grant Tregoning 2 Paul Hayes 3 Jack MacRae 4 Jeremey Godfrey 5 Hayden Sims 6 Alex Cunningham 7 John Tuffley 8 TBA Managers: Derek MacRae Kevin Godfrey PROVISION PAINTING SERVICES INTER-PROVINCIAL SOLO TEAM COMPETITION 2013 SCORE BOARD AUCKLAND RHINOS 3 2 1 0 1 1 6 2 8 CANTERBURY COMETS 2 2 0 0 0 0 6 0 6 SOUTHLAND OUTLAWS 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 November 3rd Canty (H) 39 v Akl (A) 35 Moore Park win 3pts bonus 1pt November 9th Sthld (H) 23 v Akl (A) 48 Oreti Park loss 0pts win+bon 4pts November 17th Akl (H) 43 v Sthld (A) 32 Rosebank Road win 3pts loss 0pts November 24th Canty (H) 40 v Sthld (A) 31 Moore Park win 3pts loss 0pts January 12th Akl (H) v Canty (A) Rosebank Road January 18th Sthld (H) v Canty (A) Oreti Park

Technically he has also included the results from the meetings which hadn't all been posted also The Moore Park meetings have certainly shown a difference to some of the riders in regards to team riding v individual riding. This can only be good for their development as riders

More info on the league can be found at: http://www.facebook.com/groups/1374323619481353/

Whilst I've never actually seen either ride, as we all know with Speedway circumstances will change and opportunities will happen. Just make sure Conor uses this as that extra bit of determination to make the next step up. I'm sure as the season progresses there will be the opportunity that comes his way (hopefully at Coventry being a local lad), with the determination to prove the selectors wrong he will hopefully then take the chance with both hands Rather than taking it as a big kick in the teeth, take it as a minor set back which can be rectified

Is Ryan not partly Kiwi? If I remember correctly he certainly learnt a lot of his trade in New Zealand, and I did wonder where he had gone to as hadn't heard him about the last couple of seasons...... So technically this post contradicts a lot of what you have already said! However, I do agree that the National League should be about promoting and assisting British Youngsters..... If someone has British Partiality then they should be allowed to race, but is there a way to say they need to commit to GB? even if only for a set number of years.... If they are not selected in that time then they are free to race elsewhere

Cheers Main Man... I thought the rules had changed to something like that but wasn't sure....

What are the rules on foreign riders for the NL? There are a couple of young Kiwi's that would be worth a few clubs having a look at if it was allowed....

A Thread for the NZ GP has been set up on the following link..... http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=71427&st=0

I'd just noticed this date and am actually gutted as I'll be back in the UK for family weddings.... mmmmmmm wonder if someone fancies moving their wedding

Whilst the European Seasons are drawing to a close everyone this side of the world seems to be gearing up for the new season..... After last years thread I thought about time we started something for this season, as such below are dates of action at Moore Park and 'Dates of Interest' as per http://www.moorepark.co.nz/calander.html 2012 21st October - Sidecar Battle of the Twins 18th November - CHCH Motorcycle Speedway Championships 16th December - Rememberance Championships 2013 11th January - NZ Sidecar Championships (Qualifying) 12th January - NZ Sidecar Championships 23rd February - NZ Solo GP/SI Sidecars Team Racing 9th March - South Island Solo Championships/Sidecars Best Pairs 30th March - Short Track Championships 20th April - Solo Teams Racing Dates of Interest: 21st November - NZ Long Track Championship & GP - Ascot Park 24th November - Burt Munro Challenge - Oreti Park 8th December - NZ U21 Solo Championship - Oreti Park 15th December - Sidecar Championship - Wanganui 4th January - Sidecars - Woodford Glenn 5th January - Bike Night> Sidecars Gold Cup + Solos - Ruapuna 6th January - NZ Solo Championship - Rosebank 22nd February - Bike Night> Sidecars Teams Racing + Solos - Ruapuna 16th March - South Island Sidecar Championship - Oreti 23rd March - SGP - Western Springs Please feel free to add other NZ dates if anyone knows so we can get a clearer picture

I know this will not be the right thread, but more likely to hit the targetted audience... does anyone in NZ know if or when the highlights of Saturday's GP will be shown on Sky Sports? I've had a quick look through the guide but can't find it!

We get into Auckland Friday afternoon so can't wait..... At least it's only a domestic flight to do... know of a few guys coming up from Christchurch... some that haven't been to Speedway for years.... and I mean years!!! Also introducing the better half to GP Speedway after getting her interested at Brandon last year on our trip over

That is definately the correct times as for this week only the time difference is 12 hours..... come Sunday though for us it becomes 11 hours! Original long range forecast was rain...... however, the forecast I've just looked at for Auckland is sunny.... so hopefully that one stays Looking forward to getting up there for some action

Shame Andrew Aldridge wasn't able to get himself fit in time to take his place at reserve, but I'm sure it will be great experience for Sean

So what day do you get into Auckland BFD?

Bit like he does before a race half the time!

I was gonna say it doesn't always rain... but then this weekend in Christchurch all we've had is erm rain!

Yeah I heard that one, bit silly really. Surely should be a worldwide rule

I totally understand in that situation emotions were high, and as I said once he calmed down again he set about the business well and rightfully earnt his place in the final.... there has definately been a lot more shown. It was definately Grant that was first to roll into the tapes, Godfrey was indeed in the race off gate 3, and could have then touched the tapes himself that set Ryan off who was the one that looked more obvious by it all. It was pointed out that Ryan was the one to go initially, but via the radio the ref then informed the other officials it was Grant who was then removed from the race. I'm not trying to make out that Grant is a cheater, and in terms of New Zealand racers he is one of the professionals both in terms of set up and his approach. This was not the only race though he was moving at the start, whether he was just trying to pre guess the tapes of what, but it was definately not just the 1 heat

Erm I can't remember..... from in the box I do remember that the 1st lap was a good one with it looking like Grant was going to push Jason all the way, but once Jason rounded him it was 1 way traffic.... edit: Forgot to add that when Grant and Jason met, Grant clearly rolled into the tapes before Ryan Moss went through them. All of us in line with the tapes saw it, as the ref did too, but I'm not sure what it looked like from elsewhere.... is there anyone able to comment on if it could be seen from elsewhere in the stadium? For Grant to then gesture towards the ref was a bit silly, but once he calmed down he set about his business well to earn the direct spot into the final... he tried to roll and just happened to get caught

We are indeed in the future.... So the GP will be Saturday morning UK time ... oh well won't affect me as I'll be there watching

Oh no it won't as the UK will have had their clocks go forward by then.... luckily NZ clocks don't change until the day after the GP, so would get confusing if rained off on the Saturday as times would be completely different the next day

Sorry hadn't seen this reply as when I last posted my computer didn't take it to this page! From what I have seen the Kiwi riders certainly didn't have the issue out of the gate, sometimes the 1st corner looked like they may have backed out a little in certain situations, but on the whole from my perspective it was more a case of trying to overtake and force their way through into a higher position. The big difference here, other than obvious experience and track time, is probably down to the fact that near enough all, if not all, of the Kiwi riders do this more as their hobby at the moment.... this means to pay the bills etc they are having to work a lot more outside of the sport. This could be something at the back of their minds at times too. I certainly know of a rider who has had to think about going to certain meetings because of affording the time off, and here-in is where the big difference lays. Having said all that the commitment and riding shown yesterday in the NZ Final I thought was a big step up from some of the riders so well done to those that have used the experiences against the International Riders and started to implement it in their own racing One big story that has come out of New Zealand yesterday though was that NZ will not be represented by 6 time National Champion in the NZ Grand Prix, Jason Bunyan any more........ they will be represented by 7 times National Champion, Jason Bunyan instead

I was reading a Speedway star that was sent over from start of January yesterday and it has those results in... I will try and find later when I get home from work and see what details are in it