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Speedybee wrote " don't count me in your common ground , we have chucked far too many resources training journeymen Aussies and other assorted foreigners , instead of concentrating on our own lads , I'm not 1 bit dissapointed that lads who have made it to their level against the odds couldn't hack it against teams and fans whose country actually support its own riders in preference to foreigners " Doesn't that count as a failure of organisation and preparation?

Seldom have I read such common ground in a thread. We may have our minor differences but the overwhelming feeling is of disappointment and shame, about the organisation and preparation for this event. Hopefully it is a wake up call to the powers that be.

Embarrasing to watch. Poor machines, wrong lines and tape breaking too. Woofy should not wear GB at Cardiff if he is not prepared to represent his country, whatever his disagreementswith the authorities. shame on him.

I am more and more inclined to the thought that technically he did rule himself out of the GP series. I wonder if anyone is going to get the lawyers involved?

You cynic SR!

I'm just hoping the Rebels come through this unscathed for tomorrow night against Glasgow. I was at the carnage at the OTA when we ended up with 4 riders. It took BWD 3 attempts to break his collar bone and he has been missed.

Surely Rohan Tungate has to figure in this?

So sad to hear that our ex Captain (of the Rebels) has had his richly deserved world title cruelly taken away in a racing accident. Hopefully he can come back from his injuries fully and claim his prize next year. Get better soon Jason.

As a regular to the OTA and there on Friday I feel for all involved. There were only 2 turnstiles open and there was the biggest queue along Emil way. But nobody could ever foresee the carnage that was heat one. Poor old BWD. 3 attempts to break his collar bone! The time it takes to replace a section of air fence is significant too. I don't know what the solution is. Start earlier and you deny those travelling after work to get there. I am glad the second leg is a victim of the weather. It will give the boys time to re-group and get Jake back. Just one of those things that I have never seen in 55 years of watching speedway.

Agree. Innocuous looking tumble. He did not really high side the bike but was catapulted on to his front. You cannot argue with the damage done though and I wish him a full recovery. Come to think of it Darcy's was not that serious looking either unlike Lee Richardson's that you knew was bad from the outset.

Thanks. In US. Will try.

Out of the UK for this one. Anyone got a stream source that I can watch?

Shocking omission to leave Booey out of the obituaries. The BBC has hit the rocks with sport but in the old days this was called "Sports Review of the Year", and had more substance, not the back slapping excuse we get now.

I saw Jimmy ride for several years in the 60's. Never heat leader class but could win races on his day. I met him twice at WSRA dinners and a true gent. Glad everyone on here feels the same. RIP Jimmy.

What engine was Harris using? Doesn't really matter because no engine is going to get him going as fast as the rest of the field, but just curious.

Could we not get Chris Harris a dispensation to use 2 engines in one bike next year so that we get 4 man races? I don't know what that engine was but it didn't get him going any quicker.

Not after his display at the end of the Aussie GP. Cap on backwards and going to die of thirst before the end of the national anthem. Bit of growing up still to do to get to the Briggs/Mauger status yet.

Had a great night at the OTA. Cookie was, as I suspected, on a different planet. Rather have him in the GP next year in place of Harris! Would do him good. Can't see Edinburgh hanging on to him next year though without offloading half the team. Poor decision on Charles though. Could cost us the cup.

The way Cookie went round Belle Vue yesterday nobody will live with him tonight. Josh has to improve on last night too. Starkey could hold the key.

As a neutral I thought it was a good night. I will be at the OTA tonight and I can't see anyone living with Cookie if he keeps going like this.

Cookie's going to be a busy lad. 2 legs of the play offs and 2 legs of the PL KO Cup final in 5 days. Poole to Edinburgh's a long way! I'll be a the OTA tomorrow to see what happens.

It seems an amazing coincidence to me that Leigh had that ride aginst Edinburgh and got sacked 4 days later. Perhaps we should ask Garry. I personally think there is no "I" in team and he should have taken the long view. Nothing against the guy but team riding in 3rd and 4th is not going to win matches.

I wish Leigh all the best in whatever the future may hold for him, BUT! He would not let Brady Kurtz past to chase Cookie and Sedgeman in heat one of the Edinburgh match. That to me spelt the beginning of the end for the Rebels that night and maybe had something to do with Garry's difficult ,but correct decision.

Why oh why do we have to exclude a rider when a race gets stopped? First bench bunching so far as I know is only an accepted disregarding of the rule. If a genuine racing incident happens why does someone have to be wholly to blame by getting excluded/ Are there never any 50/50's? If there are then half the time statistically the wrong rider gets excluded. Jim Lawrence did the right thing but by what rule?

Well said Philip! 3 points of contact are better than 2 but one, your backside is stupid!