Star Lady

Glad it's not just me. I find watching a 46 year old trying to act like a teenager nauseating and are we really expected to believe that Hancock drinks the stuff! Let alone Woffy who is forever banging on about a good diet etc.

I'm awaiting your proof (I.e. Posts quoting) that people hate Tai. You seem to think everyone has to provide facts so it seems only fair you provide it too.

As you quoted my post I'll reply. I've thought it for ages just because I don't post it ad nauseum and don't argue constantly with people who don't hold the same views' doesn't mean I've just realised it. Nowhere have I ever said I hate Tai Woffinden. As you like to deal in facts can you quote some posts where people say they hate Tai Woffinden? I merely expressed the OPINION that I think he should either respect British Speedway and it's fans by riding in both the British Final and for Team GB or say thanks but no thanks there's not enough money in it and Monster haven't told me to do it. Had he said that I'd have had a bit more respect for him. I also said he is arrogant, my opinion on that hasn't changed either. I expect top riders to do what is best for themselves. I also expect fans to be allowed to express their opinions without being harangued, harrassed and constantly told they are wrong. Just to diversify the thread a bit. I have no idea how much riders earn for riding in the SWC, I assume it's not mega bucks compared with the costs involved based on the Aussie appeal for donations. That being the case one wonders why Woffinden is intent on riding for Team GB. Of course it could be because the series sponsor also sponsors him and have applied a bit of pressure. Pure conjecture on my part but if money is the be all and end all, as you are trying to imply, the question has to be asked. Edited for spelling and grammar.

Bloody hell first I agree with Steve Shovlar and now I find myself agreeing with you. Money talks and for all the whinging and whining from the top riders, Woffinden included, if the UK paid the same as Poland there would be a massive rush of top riders wanting talks with EL clubs. It's nothing to do with schedules etc, it's money pure and simple. BTW that's my opinion so it's no good asking me for facts

Be honest tho. Do you really think any track would charge Darcy Ward for entry? I'm not saying they should before anyone starts

He admitted threatening and abusive behaviour, nowhere in the article does he admit to anything else. There again I'm not a great believer in the press giving the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. He also says he informed the SCB that he was unable to attend on the date and gave alternatives but I note you haven't quoted that bit I don't know the whys and the wherefores of what he did or didn't do but I do have a sense of fair play. In a court of law pleading guilty usually means a lesser sentence, If that applies to the SCB lord above knows what the original fine was

Cannot disagree with any of that. Unfortunately some people don't believe people who think this way are allowed an opinion let alone be allowed to voice it.

I've got a yearning for a bacon butty

I hope you gained some ideas as to what to have for tea tho

I voiced no opinion as to whether the squad would be better or not. I simply said it would be a waste to use Lambert at reserve and in that regard Robert72 was correct.

Didn't realise mind reading was one of your talents

I night indulge in an ice cream given the lovely warm weather

Beans on toast for tea tonight Danny.....yummy

tr So it would be a waste to have Lambert at reserve. that's how I read it. Robert 72 appears to correct in this instance

Was a bit more than speaking your mind tho. As I read it he was abusive towards the referee, in the refs box. That's inexcusable in any sport. Officials have to be protected, whether they are right or wrong or anarchy follows. I agree if would help to hear both sides but as with everything in speedway, fans never know the whole truth.

Forgot to add having chips with it. Sorry Dazz. but I did go for a long walk in the woods before lunch.

Chicken burger but I had a very healthy picnic lunch in the Queens back garden at Sandringham. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Her Maj for allowing us all to use the estate on lovely hot sunny days like today

OK I surrender. I'll just stay off this thread which is a shame because I was interested in people's opinions but I can't stand the twit for tat, which adds nothing to the debate, any more.

As I said neither of you have provided evidence of payment for the 2016 British Final. That's the British Final that is under discussion in this thread.

OK so we have established that Robert 72 has ridden a speedway bike competitively and that Gavans family know Mark Loram quite well. So please can we put a stop to all this. Neither of the above facts give either of you the right to be correct in your opinions...and that's all they are OPINIONS, exactly the same as everyone else's posts on this thread. Neither of you have provided any evidence of what may or may not have been paid to any rider in the 2016 British Final. Can we please behave like adults and have some respect for each other's opinions, regardless of whether you agree with them or not.

Rule 543.67 sub section 123 says its fine if the rider has a cheesy grin and is called Cracker Barrel

I sincerely hope I win the lottery this week so I can hire a room and put Robert 72 and Gavan in it so they can bore each other stupid and allow the rest of us some peace

Any day with a Y in it

and had he been honest enough to say so, no one could have had an argument with him (well maybe a few). As it is he has alienated quite a few people (myself included) to a lesser or greater extent and the fall out rumbles on. BTW Gavan don't be so presumptious to attempt to speak for everyone. You certainly do not speak for me. If I have something to say I will stand up and say it myself

Had Monster reached the final I might have said yes