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No ! I have not been in the pits, or spoken with him, but I see his body language, I read his comments, and I see him at work and none of that fills me with any confidence at all. I liken it to a high powered racing car , being driven by a bus driver. Probably a brilliant bus driver, but not someone who knows how to race cars... A couple of years back, before Rory had his bad accident, I witness him as captain doing an amazing job. he was at the pit gate every race, gging riders up before, and there when they came back, high fives and congratulate them, he was Mr Motivator himself. He rode every race and it was there for all to see. I travelled most away matches then and Rory was always there motivating the team. The results were good, everywhere we went we were in with a chance. Unfortunately Injuries played a major part that year and we weren't the success it could have been. There is no excuse for last night it was embarrassing. To only win one race is testament of our attitude, our drive and commitment. To come out and blame it all on the absence of Huckenbeck is laughable. it appears we approached this match like lambs to the slaughter, and that is not the attitude of a top Manager or a top team.....

I am of the same thoughts as you. It ok to assemble new kids on the block into a team and TELL them what is expected of them, But to Manage season professionals is a different ball game.. How do you instruct, Motivate, or install confidence when you have never been there yourself..... Manager/ Motivators such as Middleditch, Lemon, Rossiter, Louis, and Tatum have immense experience from their riding days and demand respect, We need to appoint somebody similar, An exrider would to be an obvious answer......... Anything would be better than we have at present.......

I don't think team is as bad as its performing. The problem is they don't ride to their capability. Holder has to be the worse performing rider in the league at the moment, but that not say he a bad rider or that he isn't trying, he needs help to overcome that problem, Lambert is doing OK; Batch is not far off but does have his off nights, Porsing is a worry, should be doing far better than he is, Rose not bad, but should be scoring more, Huckenbeck will get better and was a match winner at Somerset, Bailey is just out of his depth... There's not many people out there to strengthen what we already have. There is not a lot wrong with the team apart from the fact they're not winning races. The magic ingredient to motivate them is missing and that's the Team Manager.... I'm sure with the right man in charge this team will be ok.......

Only one race win answers all the questions about this over rated team. Although I feel sorry for Allitt, but to me he was never going to be the right person for the job. We want a Manager to motivate the team, to kick arses when they are bad. and one who demands respect... and can make changes Rory Schlein must be on cloud nine.. We treated him like S...T just because he disagreed with Buster over the track..... He could have offered Lynn so many options but as always we let the good ones go. He goes to Wolves and Ipswich where he is appreciated, and he scoring loads....... To rescue this season the Management need to be strong and make changes, Baring that , we will only again be also-rans.....

I don't expect us to get that many. Holder, Lambert Batch- 28/30 tops; , Porsing Rose probably 8/10; Reserves 2/3. So even in the absolute best scenario we won't score enough to bother the Wolves.... Unfortunately.... The projected Wolves scores , Freddie, Masters (Thorsell/ Guest) 36/38; Howarth and Rory 14/16; Reserves 10/12 , Makes me think this will be one sided affair...

Appreciate that, and I judge dont all the fans by those few..

That there was me thinking, Kings Lynn was the only Gate and Go track in this world........ ( according to some posters....) It appears there are some other tracks as well...... At least at Lynn its capable to win from every gate...... What a shambles.......

Having been more times than I care to remember, I must say its not one of my favorite tracks, A long tiresome journey, always with plenty Monday tea time traffic, All the supporters cramped along the starting straight, A track that gives a massive home advantage, and some of the rudest supporters you would imagine. My only crime was being 1 of only 4 Lynn supporters surrounded by masses of Black and Gold, and us wearing a Lynn jacket, but it was enough to be the victim of finger pointing and banter every time we lost a race... It wasn't that funny and because of the numbers, it felt quite intimidating... One Wolves official came up to us and gave us all pit passes to escape the banter we were getting. We spent the rest of the evening viewing from the pits..... The best part of going to the Monmore is the wonderful Meat Pie and chips,,,,,,

When Buster was made chairman of the BSPA, I thought he was the one chap who could actually turn this sport around. But it appears he has made little difference. The sport is crying out for some sort of structure, so the fans will benefit. Probably the BSPA think the fans are the least consideration. They fail to realise that once the fans go the sport is no more.. The sport should be building bridges to encourage the supporters back, not arranging fixtures knowing SGP riders are unavailable. Having stepped up to the big league, the fans at Somerset would have pencilled in dates to see these star performers, yet a lack of thought in the fixture arranging has prevented this. This is no disrespect to Cookie but he hasn't been a World Champion. I am in no doubt the absence of Holder will effect the gate, and that should have been the first priority. You cant brush these issues under the carpet, unless problems get sorted they never go away. We want the leagues to run on specific nights, We don't want DU riders missing meeting through fixture clashes; We don't want Guests and R/R, . Surely that can't be that difficult....

Cant believe this meeting is planned for tomorrow and not a thread posted yet..... Probably not a lot of Interest.

Why not leave them there for the whole season. Who cares any more ???? Here we are, in a new beginning with new rules, and ALL the riders are using fabricated averages. Either using some , gained riding in a lower division, or those calculated to suit the discrepancies. Surely getting them on a realistic footing would have been a priority. Now we hear this shambles is going to continue until June. Wonderful...

I doubt whether clashes with SGP riders was even considered..

I see we've drafted in Cookie to cover for Chris Holder at Somerset this week. Bearing in mind the way Chris is riding of late, in my reckoning that will make us stronger.... Might get something after all...

Don't worry about it, especially with track specialist Rory on board I cant imagine you'll have many problems ... If the unthinkable did happen and we manage to beat you, you will have an excuse in place already.....

I agree with you 100%. I always have regarded Saddlebow Road as one of the best tracks in the country, with its size and shape. We have had some top quality riders plying their trade around this track and all saying what a wonderful track it is... .... The problem we have now is that the majority of meetings are gate and go affairs which do nothing to inspire the fans. Tracks in the UK are all substandard when comparing with those in Poland/ Sweden. It is only the NSS that can compete with the racing we see from aboard. My comment was made . in reference to making our sport more racy, giving the rider who missed the gate the opportunity to pass. The obvious answer at Lynn would be to cover the track in proper shale. Riders have proved it can be raced on providing the preparation is right. But that is not going to happen because financial implications of the Stock Cars have to be considered as always. Altering the entry into corners may be the answer. With a concrete infield, it might be possible to move the white line in enough to create more space going into, without messing up the drainage . It was merely a suggestion that was feasible without too much expense. It could be experimented quite easily to see the effect it produced... But like you I like nothing more than seeing riders, racing hard riding flat out, swapping places to the line.... But unfortunately I live too far away from Manchester for me to get my addiction satisfied, on a regular basis... We have to make the most of what we have...

No ! but based on this Ruling :- 16.2.7 A SGB Premiership or Championship League rider will establish an MA after 4 Home and 4 Away fixtures, becoming effective 7 days after the last qualifying Meeting. Should an Established MA not be achieved to be effective from 1st May, then the MC may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the Team re-declares. They can do just about anything they like.... Why cant they have a change over date, and change EVERY rider's average to be current and valid...... ??.

When the BSPA decided at their AGM how to re-create the teams strength using a new formula of Pl and loaded EL points, I thought we had at last turned the corner and that the sport was going to be run properly with transparent rules that everyone could follow, But it now appears those views were unfounded. We were told the 'second part' of the operation, enabling riders getting back to a realistic CMA were to be implemented with a changeover come May, that would mean all the riders having a valid and current premiership average.. But that's not the case, it now appears the MC are going to re-assess riders only if clubs want to re-declare..... It is now apparent that the second part was not thought through properly, and the sport remains the shambles its always been.......

There sure are a lot of variables in them rules.... It appears the MC can make their own judgements after May 1st, Providing clubs want to redeclare.

In the real world we only have that 1 track that fits the bill, All the rest are substandard to the shape and design. The situation in Poland are a world apart to what we have in the UK. In Poland the sport is funded by corporate finance, while here it mostly is private enterprise. The sport is in no way able to fund new stadiums, The Promoter are surviving on a shoe string, and we talk about new stadiums as if there are 10 a penny. We need to make the most of what we have. many tracks have been going for years and have done well to have survived through all the problems and recessions. Any way forward has to be directed to making what we have work.... Except the NSS is a 1 off. and work on making each track as racable as possible...

Sometimes I wonder If you ever read what I posted. I never said make Lynn a small track, nor did I say slow the bikes down, what I suggested was to make a shape that would mean closing the throttle on entry into corners, instead of follow the leader in processional races.

I am in no doubt the biggest probelm with todays tracks are the design of todays bikes. These bikes prefer striaght lines and big corners which enabling the throttle to be permanently open.. The NSS epitomises this design but they have a wide raceway that others aren't able to copy.. So rather than try to make all tracks similar, why not try to slow the bikes down to create a more racing environment. Let make more tracks like Monmore ( Wolves Track) forcing rider to be more articulate instead of being speed merchants.. I have nothing against Craig Cook's 15pt max on Wednesday, but he had the fastest bike, and if we put any of the top riders on that, the other night, they would have achieved something similar. It seem strange that the previous night he was far less successful on a more technical track. I think the shape at Lynn needs to change, but only in making the corners wider and sharper, meaning the riders have to shut the throttle on entry. I know this must be against the philosophy of the sport, but we want to watch competitive races and not processions of the fastest bike wins...

Yes it was always my understanding the riders CMA only includes league matches, But this is a unique situation that exists purely to correct a bad formula from previous years. Surely it would be more beneficial , more accurate , and obvious more sense to include all the matches to represent a more reliable figure of that riders ability.. Once the changeover has happened, then we can go back to the 'old trusted methods' of yesteryear.... but until then we need to think out of the box ....

I appreciate that would have been the obvious scenario, but our league is not like that. we have some teams that have had more meetings, we have teams who haven't played away yet, and other who ridden far more away than home, infact we have nothing of any similarity at all. I thought that the 50pt was for team building limit at the start of the season, where riders would either use their PL- CMA, and those without a PL would use their EL ( x 1.4). We were then told once they get their first set of figures all riders would then switch over to the newly acquired average, attained from 2017 and the teams limit be dropped to around 42-43pts. Is the changeover going to be governed by the riders doing 4H/4A, or will it be the Team riding 4H/4A ??? either way it is going to open a tin of worms. A change over date would eliminate all issues about team rebuilding, and would place all teams in the same situation. Teams could plan for the change over if a date was prior made. Ok, some teams will have ridden more than others, but some teams have ridden in Cup and Coventry matches so the situation exists already..

Sure was a poor home performance tonight supplying just 4 race winners. That's the second meeting out of 3 we have not been good enough... Congratulations to Belle Vue on showing how it should be done..

Having given this point a bit of thought, I wondered if anybody knows how or when this is going to happen. Thinking along the lines of each riders to required 4 H and 4A before a change is implemented could create problems for those riders unable to achieve that cut off. How will teams be allowed to recalculate when they have ridden in less meetings then other... so to be fair, the change over date has to be the same for all teams..... My own thoughts would be to have a cut-off day say 23rd May (approx.) and the new figures to be implemented on the 1st June ( again- approx.) . All thoughts and information welcome...