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Darcy Ward
Grand Central replied to Seymour Dix's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
Surely this is impossible. The guy has had his 'trial' and been 'sentenced'. I do not see how it is possible, legally, to impose extra restrictions on him individually after such due process has been followed. Obviously the FIM can change its alcohol testing methods at GPs and introduce a new rule for all riders, if it chooses. But since I was last on this thread things have changed for me. One p!ssed up rider is not the greatest danger the SGP faces, anymore. It's the sober ones who cannot do a clutch start on a green light who are the real danger. They can bring the whole thing to it's knees. -
Just to summarise. The riders (the top ones) got the meeting cancelled because of the lack of tapes. The track was not bad enough to cancel the meeting. The 'men' of the Jury said that it was cancelled 'for safety reasons'. It was not. Enquiry over. No action against anyone to be taken. Ole can get back to work. Providing he borrows a second starting gate ahead of Cardiff. (Until Nicki and Greg want a GP called off, of course)
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It is difficult to take seriously someone who produces such out of date information. In support of his spurious argument. Ole Olsen would be terribly busy creating new temporary tracks at so many defunct venues if anyone were to listen to this joker. I think we need much better brains on the case to secure the future of the SGP. Not this.
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I don't deliberately try to go against the grain but I thought the pricing seemed quite reasonable. My slight gripe is that I emailed Belle Vue earlier in the week to enquire about hospitality etc and have had no reply. I was looking to do a little more than just buy a ticket and no one has got back as yet, which is a shame.
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I do find it amusing that this thread has descended moved into a debate about which other - much better organised events - have unpaid volunteers to help. And the relative merits of this. When just about all the prime candidates for blame for last Saturday's debacle ARE paid. And some of them - those wearing kevlars - were quite handsomely paid for only half a job.
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Tampere Gp
Grand Central replied to ProudtobeaBrummie's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
This guy is just the sort of talent BSI needs to bring on board. He knows the outcome of the test meeting a week in advance! -
I am sure there is a lot of truth in that. But as with absolutely everything else, just about all the people involved in this debacle were the very people that had gained all the experience of previous cock ups and almost cock ups. But all of them, at all levels, seem to have a complete mental block on learning and have zero ability to enact any positive change. And then people are still talking as if every single item this Saturday was new and totally impossible to foresee. The multi-layered structure of responsibilities has been exposed as being the perfect way to deflect blame around until eventually no one turns out to be responsible at all. But it is not going to change. The obvious need to have some one person of stature in charge to 'carry' the show is being missed. Someone who can show real leadership and galvanise everyone before the meeting and on the night. And who can get the thing back on the rails when it is being pulled off by circumstances or riders is desperately needed. Headless chickens are all that are on show so far. It really is pitiful to hear. And it just offers no hope whatsoever.
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Let's not kid ourselves, though. Had Chris Harris been given the option of taking the result at Heat 12 in Cardiff 2007 he would no doubt have taken it. After all, him and NP were on 7 points, in joint second place, behind the unbeaten Hans Andersen at the interval stage. So he would have been in a podium position. Just like in Warsaw Of course that would have meant that he would have been denied the greatest moment of his career. And we would have been denied the experience of Cardiff's best ever final. And all the emotions that elicited. Plus ... no one at all would now be going to South Wales on July 4 this year, either. So who knows what would have happened on Saturday had we got through to Heat 23. .
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I hold no candle for Ole Olsen. Have never been able to stand the guy. I have been irritated by Phil's oft repeated mantra. That building one-off tracks is 'not an exact science'. But .... They are on the right side of the argument. Every single GP that is to be staged inside a roofed stadium demands a temporary track that is created in the matter of a few days. No getting away from that fact. If you want Cardiff ... You have to have a temporary track. But there will never be an infallible method. It will be impossible to guarantee it. There will always be a risk. You may refine it. You may have to just stick to the stadiums that are best suited. Who knows? But there can never be a guarentee. But after the events of Saturday. Everyone is now wanting that absolute certainty that just cannot be given. And now with zero good will from the riders. Isn't the 'answer' further away, than ever after what was done in Warsaw. Rather than patting themselves on the back for their 'achievement'. Where do THEY, the Warsaw 18, think we go from here? I can just imagine Pedersen picking up his fourth crown at Norden. With just a few hardy souls for company. Wondering 'what happened?'
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Time and again in the riders' quotes it seems that it really is all about not being able to cope with green lights starts. That was the clincher. I'm amazed that so many of them go through a pre-race ritual of 'practice starts' all around the track on the way to the tapes. All that practice without tapes. How on earth do they do it? And then on the big night, when the tapes are taken away They are impotent. All limp and flaccid. Little boys like that are best just playing with themselves.
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Well, just devoured my Speedway Star online. My thoughts to start the ball rolling are No cover up of the humiliating disaster that was Saturday night. Peter Oakes gives a pretty comprehensive two-page resume of the unfolding nightmare. Some criticism of BSI and their response, and non existent crisis management. They will have 'get their act together' in the main. But it generally looks like Ole will be carrying the can, pretty much on his own. Philip Rising, and others, cover the same ground with undoubted exasperation. The dopey set of officials are one by one exonerated by the Star. And the riders are getting off scot-free. Being actually praised for their behaviour. On more than one occasion in fact. Utterly dreadful This quote from Pedersen. "But on the night, there were 18 riders who didn't want to ride and that's a very good thing for speedway" That must be one of the must disgusting quotes of any Speedway rider in the history of the sport.