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Nothing about it being automatically better, the fact is time has moved on ..British speedway is not he top league in the world, not as many people watch speedway in the uk anymore etc etc . My assuming that people who want the off final back are over 50 is spot on thou ,people living in the past . it would be great if speedway could have the crowds like it did in the golden years but the fact it thats not going to happen by bringing things back things that were popular 40 years ago like you want . As for credibility you already been told how unfair and wrong the old system was about 300 times not sure why we have to tell you again .

Yep it's shame things are not what they were 30 years ago .

As has been pointed out to you many times thou the gp has it faults, the problem you got is that you try to make out the one off World final was some kind of fair event when in fact it was inherently flawed in so many ways ...as i said every year it was held you never had the best 16 riders for a start, how flawed is that ?

No one is saying that the gp sysytem is perfect far from it ....what is wrong is the over 50 's going on about the one off World Final's what was one off the most unfair systems of all time as due when you when got to the final 6 or 7 of the 16 should not have been there So much for your sense of fair play . People who don't like Gp's are all the same type ..they hate the play offs they want second halfs back, love one off world finals and are over 50 and had zero idea about the money side of the sport .

I was useing F1 as a postive F1 gets more viewing figures because it's hyped but it's not better because people on a speedway forum reckon speedway is better :rofl: . And you go on about people talking nosense :lol:

Of course not the last think we want is it to get as popular as F1 is What we need is to back to to one off world final watched by 500 people with no tv coverage to keep a few over 50's happy .

No you choose to used other sports as an example as how they are true world championship events in your eyes, as i have show you that is not the case . Not sure how they were obvious when you missed them out when trying to make your example ..the bottom line if you look closely at any sport the you will find it deeply flawed as a proper world championship just like the one off World Final was .

I thought that at Wimbledon there were wildcards ? i also thought that the host in the Football world cup went into the finals without playing a game ? or have those rules changed ? When do the F1 qualification rounds start ?

Sweden and Poland ride on the same day as when they have a live tv match did it finish off speedway completely ? ...i never said anythnk what promoters would want to ride on a monday just pointing out that it is possable to have a set race night the uk if they wanted to .

You said that it's not possible to have the same race night the fact is you can ...i am sure in Sweden Tuesday is not the best day to run speedway but to move forward you have to try, in Elite league's case maybe two set nights is the way forward .

What current EL clubs can't run on a monday night ? how many many have dog racing on a monday night ?

Like that great speedway city of Cardiff .

No one fails to understand they just think your wrong ....we have a system now that without doubt has the best riders in the world championship what else could anyone ask for .

The old world championship system was totaly unfair for a start not once were the top 16 best riders in it as it allowed rubbish riders into it if they came from a certain area in the world plus if you got injured you were out as well . When it comes to being unfair the old system was miles ahead you can have one ef and not be able and that would cost you any chance of winning ..the system they used now nearly always give us a true world champion .

Spot on ...Holta just always been about fast and somewhat suspect bikes with little talent .

Thats what i said the GP'S are run in Poland to make money the same as the World Cup Final ...nothing to do with it being fair what any world championship should be .

England ? as they none at the moment ...next your be telling me it's fair that hey have the World cup final in Poland every other year . If The world cup final was at Lakeside or Wolves every other year do you reckon Poland would win ? do you think Hampel And Gollob would do so well if 3 gp's were at Lakeside ,Wolves and say Eastbourne ? . The point is righty or wrongly these events are ran to make money rather than it being a equal contest .

And ? if they do that is unfair also .

Pretty easy queston to answer ,,the moment the Gp replaced the old system it became more important to make money than it to be a world championship event ..the last thing they want is riders who won't sell tickets They also do this on where he gp's are held sure it great to have 3 gp's in Poland as it makes money but surely in a so called world championship event that is unfair .

What a terrible match that was ..why do people turn up to see such dross.

Can't see it myself ..to much of a gamble .

The reason being if you do that then every team would put there best rider there as they could cherry pick rides /gates etc ....the one thing we all argree on is that is a reserve should be in place ,if Hampel had not being to ride after being knock off by Ward then Poland would have lost ithe World cup .How unfair would that have been ? .

And why do you think the Final was held at Smallmead ?

How many times were the above two in the top 3 of the world championship ? Gollob as well as winning one world title has won the World Cup many times mainly being top scorer and captain and been at the top of the sport for a very long time as well as being one of the most entertaining riders of all time . To me Gollob is true great for many reason than just winning one world title .