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Who are ever worst .

Plenty of pl treams who have no gp riders and run on a saturday and have lost fans about the same % as Elite league who don't run at weekends . Swindon crowds are no less and are in fact bigger than when they ran on a sat night in the nineties when it was one big league .....me and host of other people i knew came back to speedway after watching the gp's on tv and it's was a massive shot in the arm from a sport that dead on it's knees at the time . Speedway crowds have going down and in decline long before the Gp come along and Speedway in the early nineties was a sorry state and not even on tv .

Of course it would make a massive diffrence the same as it would be for the Poles the other way a round .Not sure what head to head battles have to do with Brits doing better if they had more gp's .

So are you saying that Harris is better chance of doing better v Gollob and Hampel on Polish tracks than he is has on Uk tracks ? That is an amazeing statement ....not sure what Cardiff has do with anythink as that is a temp track Are repeat what i said The brits would have a better chance if there were 3 gp's on normal uk tracks rather that 3 polish one's no one has said anythink about beaten them or weather Hampel won a meeting at cov .

What about Rye House ? .would Harris have a better chance or a Uk track or a Polish track mmmThat 100% Harris on a Uk track ...Would Gollob have more chance in Poland or in the uk yet again 100 % in Poland sames go's for Hampel and Holta so yes of course in would be better for the brits if there was 3 rounds in the uk not even a debate .

When did i say i was blaming anone i said that it the gp's woul be closer if there were more Gp's in the uk and not as many in Poland ..i don't give a rat ass how much dosh polish clubs pay as really it's meant to be a world championship ran on a level field rather that a who's got the most money circus .

Maybe so .....the fact remains that the Gp has got to the stage where The poles are having more and more Gp's on there own speedway tracks where the Brits and Danes have to do with one on a temp track ..I am sure if you had your gp on a one off temp track and there 3 gp's in the Uk the gap would be a lot closer .

Why would have been no contest ? ...Nicholls has already been beaten up by Emil Sayfutdinov .... The other question is how did Thj get near other riders ?

Yes i do ...there was talk of the Pakistan spinner Saqlain Mustaq playing for England the other year after he had already taken 208 Test Wickets already ....nothing could be more stupid in sport, citizen or no citizen .

Not splitting hairs at all ...the Bottom line is that Holta has ridden for Norway at senior level unlke Pietersen and Trott who have never played for South Africa . Just like woffy you got a choice on what nation you want to represent at senoir level but once you made that choice you shoul not be able to turn back otherwise sport becomes a joke ....Holta made his some time ago .

Been said about 50 times the cricket players had not played tests for anyone else .Weather they have or not still don't make it correct had Holta rides for Poland after already have ridden for Norway .

First of all Lewis was born in the uk second it was not as a pro and third boxing is not a team sport .

Are there ? as has been pointed out The South Aficans cricketers never played for anyone else at test level ,Lennox Lewis was born in the uk, Rusedski mum was Britsh ,Owen Hargreaves dad was British ,Mo Farrah has only ran for Great Britain and Zola Budd read the Daily Mail . The problem with Holta is that not only has got nothing to do with Poland in terms of birth or relatives he has already rode for Norway at senior level and in my mind him now riding For Poland is wrong in a team event .

Saying he damed if he does and damed does is a silly comment...it was a poor choice because of the gate putting 500 quid shot on a 50-1 would look good if it comes off but it's not likely to . As for having to do it some point a reason for him doing it at the wrong time ?

Pietersen and Trott never played a test match for South Africa thou did they Morgan played one day Cricket for Ireland but yet again not a test match . Holta has no doubt rode for Norway at senior and maybe even the World Cup thats the big thing Polish passport or no Polish passport .

It should decided the moment he rides for one nation ...i trust he rode for Norway before so that should have been it weather he is a Polish citizen or not .

I thought they are where they are because they are useing a Gp rider who came from Norway .....Put Holta in one of the other sides then your likely to have a seen another result .

Wrong gate ....Lyon press the panic button to soon ,he had plenty of time to use it as we only ever going to get 3rd place ...Nothing to do with Hindslight more to do with useing a Pl team manager .

Should have got a medal today but Lyon used our Joker in the wrong place ....two years now without a medal now pretty poor show with the side we got .

Sky + not got down your neck of the woods yet then

Don't give up hope yet ...If England can Bowl out Pakinstan in the morning then Sky would have a spare space to show the speedway .

What like Thomas Bush And Chris Neath last night ? In the pl your getting riders who don't turn up for meetings because that have not got a bike as well riders being sick at Airports when they don't want get a average .

There is no ambition because there is nothing to be ambitious about that is what the debate is about ...giving Pl teams the cream of the meetings is hardly going to change that . In football all the teams want to get the top because the rewards are there that is why people think speedway is a joke as teams want to stay in a lower league thats got to change .

I said two Pl clubs ...Newport and Workington . i never even knew Mildenhall were in the pl any more who rides for them ?

Only in the last couple of weeks two teams have made nosies about closeing due to losing money ....Both of those have been Pl clubs in fact one of those clubs had a Crowd of 266 ! ....The El is far from perfect but it's speedway in general that is in trouble not just the El .