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Well the draft for a start ....how pl averages are used rather than the el ones how riders are somehow seeded so somehow Poole get a better pick in the second round ,..lets be honest if Poole never had newman as a protected asset in the draft in the first place we would never have used the draft system . Going back in time you only to look at those rules that they brought in to destroyed Cov and Benefit Poole that season to see what was going on .

As I explained the draft system is unfair but as I said leics and others agree to it before the start of the season so who's fault is that ? As for the riders being available yet again most won't ride or can't ride at a weekend when the lions choose top ride so yet again who fault is that ? we know Zengota etc are more that willing to ride in the uk so it's guff to say the riders are not out there if you try hard enough your get them . Yet again thou the heat list maybe wrong leics all teams had to chance to sign the same riders on those lists but leics yet again because they ride at a weekend it's gave them a limited chance ...so to sum it up most of there problems are of there own doing but as normal in speedway the likes of would rather they blame others and feel sorry for themselves and ask for the charity box to be handed round

Riders available ? sorry I must have missed it but never knew there was a list of riders you could sign...can you put them up for so we can see them ? thou the draft is unfair leics have hardly come out of it badly ..and some would say they have the strongest pairing with Starke and Auty ..they also have a massive advantage of owning there own stadium . The rules are the same for everyone and rather than looking for charity and feeling sorry for themselves(the norm in speedway ) how about they start running the club better ? ...if I was you I would stick to being a apologist for your mates at Belle Vue . T

Why should they work it out ? why don't leics work it out ...don't ride on the sat for a start so some riders might sign for them ...it's not a charity .

I agree with you ..the others only have themeselfs to blame ..one for letting Poole and Ford set the rules that somehow always suit them every year and two how the way they run there clubs .

I Don't like Matt Ford but the others need to raise there game and try to match him ...no good feeling sorry for yourself ...each year they let him bring a set of rules that allowed Poole a massive advantage over the other teams who's fault is that ? ...a lot of speedway problems are that people fell sorry for themselves and want and charity ..there is no reason a club of the lions size should not be able to match poole if it was run right and there are other clubs who could do the same . I hate Ford for a lot of things has done but at the same time he ran his club his club well and always understood what his public have wanted .

Give us a break with your sticking up for them ...they just lied again...are just going to keep finding feeble excuses for them ?

Glug ,Glug, Glug

Did the council put the press statement up on the Belle Vue website telling porkies why it was called off ?

More lies again from Belle Vue ..how low will they go .

Lucky them

Like they do in every other sport

Maybe there have the opening meeting at the start of 2017 ? weather permitting of course

Good point ..every year I wonder who will do better out of New England and Jacksonville .

What about the great drainage system ?

Word on the street that there could be some news tomorrow that might Russell up a bit of interest

The ref in this case felt killer could have avoided him .

Not sure he's ready for the top five yet ..think he should stay in the draft system for another couple of years

Not saying he was right but that is my thinking on how the ref saw it .

Chris4gillian and you are so alike it's amazing in fact almost like the same poster .

Swindon only got into problems the moment leigh adams left .the moment he left so did a lot of the crowd .another example of crowds wanting to see a top rider and how they paid for themselfs

Pl football is 60 plus food and drink but its pack every week . If the product is right people will pay .

Yet again as have been explained teams like Plymouth etc have no top riders but find themselves in trouble while teams like poole have and pay top money and make a profit .....it's lazy thinking just to say we can't afford top riders ....the bottom line and the only hope is that we get more fans in and just like anything the only way is to make the standard better .

What would be the point of advertising if the product you were advertising was no good ? just imagine if done that with a poor restaurant ...ok people might go there once but would never go again plus they tell others that it was poor ....the same would apply to speedway at the moment .

We could give you a millions of examples that work the other way ....Darcy ward for example put 200 -300 on the crowds at home when he joined Swindon last year as well as the crowds he brought in when Swindon rode away as rosco said he more than paid for himself ...anyone who thinks that people don't care who rides and it does not effect the crowds need there heads tested Sadly there a witch hunt going on about the El and high earners being the problem and fans wanted for some reason to be like the pl when it has all these things your talk about but has crowds that can't even pay the riders who are on low wages as we found out with Plymouth last week as well as Berwick ,Workington ,Scunny etc being on the being on the brink as well ....for years and years we have cut the cloth and the results been there for all to see people walking away as speedway dies a slow death ...