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Anyone coming from out of the area is in for a treat really. the city centre is full of top class hotels, bars, theatres and restaurants. 15,000 is not a massively significant number to adversly affect hotel costs I don't think. Hyde Road and Stockport Road are both well served by bus routes out of town and are a similar distance from the stadium, 300 or 400 yards only. Media city is on the tram route into town and is also a nice place to stay. Then you have any amount of travel inn type places in lots of districts of manchester that are 10 or 15 mins taxi ride away but

If they get a full stadium then they have been sensible with prices

Within a 5 minute walk there is a travel lodge and diamond lodge but they are not in the nicest part of Manchester. Within a 6 - 8 minute taxi ride you have any amount of hotels inc the city centre

BSI simply rent the venue in the case of their own promoted events

Your point ? Quite clearly the promoters get the gate receipts, just like they do for a typical league match. The SWC and race off are likely BSI promoted so they will get gate receipts

Might also give the organizers a bit of a headache if the good old Manchester weather intervenes on Friday. Great news though, will definitely be at the final, looking forward to it already

Told you so

Yep. One way is to ditch watching live leauge speedway and put the money to BT sport. That way you get to watch something worth watching at the expense of a pile of crap. Bloody league matches

Nothing interesting about it. Tai rides for team GB because he is British. He was born and lived his early years in Britain, he was born to British parents has British grandparents and great Grandparents. As a consequence he has a British passport. Despite this Rob pillock there is no debate, he is British.

OK, lets run with this one. Earlier you had John Davis in a list of top riders of the day. He never won anything of note on the world stage so on what basis was he any good (or better than Batchelor of today) What is it, if not averages and the number of points JD scored in league racing that sets John Davis into a top rider of 1980?. The point being made is that race formats can be used to engineer lots of so called superstars, likewise they can be used to suppress them

Lets take a 10 point average in 1980. Not consider the race format just for now, lets merely recalculate it to to what it would be today 10 point average included bonus points so simply recalculating it brings it down to 9.3 9.3 is still good so now lets factor in heat 15 That takes off 0.38 per rider in it on average off so our previous 10 point man is now only 8.9. All of a sudden he doesn't seem to be the superstar we thought he was. Now throw in fixed gate positions and the format that pits the top men together virtually every race and you can comfortably take another point away. Now our superstar seems pretty crap tbh, sub 8 average Of course the only constant, whatever the format or riders is that the mean will roughly be 6 so in the old days for every superstar on 10 point averages there was a wobbler on 2, every 8 point man had a mere 4 point counterpart.

Isn't it a type of dinosaur?.

It isn't a charity, it is someones hobby if you like, rescuing stray cats, and as you alluded to, I would send him some hessian sacks and a few bricks to drown the pests. TBH though, even as a charity auction the item should have some value, either financial or otherwise, and an old tyre, with or without any signatures doesn't

Unbelievably people are actually bidding on this. Love the desciption, "A FASCINATING, RARE SPEEDWAY COLLECTOR'S ITEM" Every speedway pits is littered with them because they are just rubbish and costly to dispose of legally. Might have a trip to Kirky Lane and fill my car with them, make myself a fortune

Thats a good crowd for a stadium with a capacity of under 6000. Maybe they need investigating for seriously exceeding stadium capacity, or maybe some people have poor perception of how many were there

That was 1936, the bonus point system continued to 1938 with Wilkinson himself being outright winner thanks to bonus points despite only being joint top scorer on the night

Jesus is this genuine. You are auctioning an item from Scott nicholls bin. Its an old tyre, a piece of commercial waste with a signature. Good luck with that one

A point you have laboured for many years and by now, if there was any merit in your assertion, the SGP would be dead in the water. Taking Emil out, and we all know why he isn't in the SGP, where is this rider revolt that would 100% certainly have happened if riders were not making money. Why is Chris Harris desperate year on year to be in, he knows he will be languishing in the bottom couple of places but he still wants to compete, is it because he has a fortune stashed away and needs a way to burn through it?.

Exactly right

It was more a case of league racing not taking off in the first place rather than the public growing tired of it in those countries.

Indeed F1 is not a fantastic spectacle racing wise and yet marketed and presented properly it managed 350,000 fans over the three days of silverstone. You can also guarantee that no hits if the 70s cd was played and unlikely ghey has a shout for Bert and Ada's 60th wedding annivarsary. Wonder why that is, imagine the crowd they could get if they geared the sport to a fee hundred coffin dodgers

Nikki has already given his version of events and it is somewhat more believable than Masters version

What facts are you seeing on there. I can only see Masters version of events which actually reads like a schoolkid trying to get out of trouble.