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If he can just give it a facelift and get it more or less back on the rails it will be something. I usuaiiy like to pop over there a few rimes a year but haven't done so this year because it has slowly become less attractive, but if t he new owner gives it a bit more oomph I would hope to make a few trips next and Iwishhim every success.

Before everyone gets carried away, what is the basis of your understanding ? Just your reading of the AGM statement or something more substantial ?

That is correct according to what Len says in his book.

Kenny Bjerre according to to the account that's going round .

I agree with Blazeaway. As one of his own Staff at Rye said to me a couple of years ago, he used to be one of the best but he has lost the plot and is still stuck in the 1980's. Len is a very single minded and determined man. At times that can be a good quality and certainly was when he bought the Rye House stadium, kicked out the stock cars and put it on its feet as a viable Speedwáy venue, a fantastic acchievement but in recent years his single mindedness seems to have made him a grumpy cantankerous old curmudgeon who doesn't know how to get on with people. Not exactly Mr Popularity at Kent by all accounts. I think Rye House is a lovely little stadium for Speedwáy on a summer evening. I really hope the new owners can get the track sorted and the stadium organised again. And some decent fish and chips once more. I look forward to going back there if the do.

They haven't brought the rule out yet, merely given a summary of what they intend to do. Before jumping to conclusions, why not wait until you see how the rule is actually worded and then come to a judgement on whether it is ambiguous

That assumes the draft will consist entirely of riders who have an EL average but it's possible the draft will include riders who don't have an EL average as an EDR rider ( Steve Boxall for example)

So much for all this bilge we have had to put up with from Len Silver about the Lakeside team moving to Kent and Kent going Elite League. Difficult to see why he should go public with those sorts of announcements when Lakezide were in such a delicate negatiating position, other than to frustrate Lakesides negotiating position and get an EL slot for himself. A once good servant of Speedway, the last few y ears he seems intent on undoing all the good work he has done in the past. As I said before its time for him to retire gracefullu

Your number 8 would still. Have to come from the PL and that would mean a converted PL average.Also The EDR rider CAN move up, not WILL move up so it's highly unlikely that any tier two riders will move up unless their averages are high enough Teams will only be in the same boat if they have similar riders injured at the same time time, but even that is not going to be any good to the fans to see aPL rider getting blown away in non protected heats. Then it still depends on your number 8 not having a fixture clash and not being needed by his PL club. I can still remember when Chris Mills, was number 8 forb Lakeside, couldn't cope at all, and he was probably a lot better than anyone around now with a PL average lower than the tier two riders.

Think it through. The only place you are going to get a number 8 in the EL is from the PL and he would have to be on a lower average than your EDR riders, without the benefit of protected heats.

According to a new announcement on the Lakeside website there is a cooling off period before any announcements, and reading between the lines it seems to be due to seeing who will be prepared to sign up to the EDR next year. However Jon Cook and Neil Vatcher say they have enough information to start signing three or four riders plus of course AJ who has already said he is coming. Every other promotion must presumably be in the same boat and able to start signing riders if they have not already done so. I don't know what people are moaning about..99% couldn't particularly care who the new chairman or MC are going to be, as it will make no difference till the season starts, we are going to have details of any major rule changes around 2-3 weeks earlier than normal and team announcements are likely to follow .

Oh no ! Not another season with the rules being adjusted to suit Belle Vue !

How to do it in easy stages;- 1. Go to the Speedwáy GP site and you will see that so far, four GP dates have been announced including Cardiff. 2. Click on your wiki link and scroll down until you se Motorcycling, and immediately below that is the word speedway. 3Click on Speedwáy and lo and behold it will take you to the four. GP dates that have so far been announed Isn't technology wonderful?

That's not what I said.. Balanced teams are essential to competitive racing. Fans won't to pay to see their home team overwhelmed week after week. Of course there needs to be an incentive for both riders and management to be on top form, that is what sport is about, but it's no good having rules slanted or applied in a way that allows some teams an advantage others don't ha ve,. The EDR is a classic example of this, given the wide range of abilities between the top and bottom EDRs Bottom line is that Speedwáy is not just a sport , it is an entertainment, and if it's not entertaining , then however noble the sporting ethos, the paying public- the ones who count- simply won't turn up, as recent years have shown.

I don't know about spin but he is dead right when he says if there is to be a monopoly on prizes it will be the death of the sport. Most fans North of Cheatford Muddlo understand that . The question is whether the BSPA actually do anything constructive about it, particularly where the EDR is concerned

Perhaps he has decided the team manager should be sacked

After Lakeside, Coventry is my next nearest club so I was more or less geared up for a few 180 mile round trips next year and to become a Bees supporter if Lakeside folded, but that decision is now put back a year. A reprieve for me or for Coventry, nor sure which !

Even when AJ was not in UK speedway he said the only EL club he would ride for was Lakeside. I know riders say these things and half the time they don't mean them but AJ's record since he first signed for the promotion seems to back that up. Oh. and while we are after each others riders I would love to have Hans as second heatleader to AJ and I have always felt that if Bomber had a full season at Lakeside to get to grips with the track he could become a real force to be reckoned with. You can keep Kylmakorpi and Howarth if you like .

Speedway is on the link you posted. Item 35.1

AJ will be back to, lead the charge. More riders to be announced at the Dinner and Dance

He didn't. It was 2013, CLANG ! ! ! The thread must be giving me dementia .. Doesn't change my mind though

Oh so Coventry made it all up ? Anyone who has followed any form of motor sport for more than 5 minutes miknows that people say all kinds of things to try to rattle the opposition because unless, for example somebody strips the engine down and looks inside it nobody will be any the wiser. What may or may not apply to Freddie applies equally to Tai. I'll just make a couple of final comments because quite frankly the discussion is getting ridiculous because come what may you are determined that tpTai's bikes were, in your words sub standard, based little more than your observation when clearly you know next to nothing about engines. I would say first of all that I can't comment on the quality of Tai's 2914 engines but all I am saying is I doubt whether anyone else can apart from Peter Johns. Firstly, as previously said. Tai stated at the last GP that he didn't have a "best" engine but has about 5 GP engines he uses for different tracks. Even if he brought one of his GP engines for the British Final that doesn't mean his normal EL engine was, in your words "substandard". It may well have been perfectly adequate for normal EL racing. A couple of points about the speed of bikes. Talking to Chris Louis a few years ago , who said he had ridden Tony Rickardssons bike and it actually wasn't all that fast , but it was set up in such a way thatt Rick could hang on to if and get the best from it, which, according to CL is more important than sheer speed on UK tracks. Half the time when a rider lacks speed it is just as likely that he is getting too much power and spinning up as not getting enough power. I don't doubt that it's possible Tai's bikes were not all they could have been but there could have been a reason for that other than a deliberate and conscious decision to use sub standard engines over here. In fact most EL riders have two engines, s few have more but none has one engine for all EL tracks so for your theory to stand up Tai would have to have at least two substandard engines over here, so as to earn less money. The second point about engines is that you yourself said on another thread that PK's poor 2014 form was due to engines not the rider and events have proved that to be more ar less correct, yet you apply the opposite to Tai. My final point which I think is significant was when Tau guested for Lakeside. He broke his collar bone in a GP on the Saturday and honoured his guest booking on the following Friday. With a broken collarbone he had every reason pull out of the guest booking and I wish he had have done because he clearly wasn't fit, and nobody would have criticised him if he had done. As was he rode and scored four points, clearly in a lot of pain. My point is that the fact that he had the guts and commitment to honour a guest booking straight after an injury with the World Champinship still at stake at that stage, doesn't suggest to me that he was treating the EL with disdain. It suggests to me that he was doing his best to maintain his commitment to EL racing that season, especially as it wasn't even his club. You have your opinion but as I said I remain unconvinced. I have nothing else to add. We must agree to differ

Maybe for the same reason that Freddie Lindgren said he was bringing his best engine to guest for Coventry in the Play off semis when he clearly didn't. Tal doesn't have a "best" best engine. H e said when interviewed at the last GP that he had different engines for different tracks, and had used about five engines in the GP's according to which track he was racing on. AJ has had his base in Poland for years. Both his main mechanics are Polish and his main workshop is in Poland.

He was doing a reasonable job against top riders in Sweden , and holding his own against pretty good riders in Polands Div 1 . By pretty good I mean riders like Bomber. I don't want to get to hung up on the PK argument because it was meant to illustrate a point rather than the point itself. The point is that. there are various factors that affect a riders scoring and the exact cause is not always obvious to those in the stands. As I said before, you make some fair points and I wouldn't say you are wrong but equally wouldn't say you are right. there are a variety of possibilities that those on the outside can only speculate on.

PK is not the best example , but he is the most recent. He was on the way down as I had conceded before but he was a lot worse in 2014 than in 2015, and PK was actually getting beaten by second strings on his own track at times. In the same period Dave watt was having big trouble sorting his engines out in Poland. . It happens at times.