Sings4Speedway

Might not be popular with the Eastbourne fans but from a league perspective i think its great that Stoke look strong in this one. The past few years have seen the league decided based upon matches between the top four as every other match was an almost certain win. This year the whole league looks far more competitive and all the better for it.

Anybody know what averages the likes of Spooner o'keefe and woodhull are hitting? The first two have almost certainly done their 4 meetings?

All very good points made & certainly there is no easy answer i was just wondering what the current rules actually are (if there are any?). Imagine for example if Dan Bewley had decided to remain unattached for his whole debut season? He could have guested for the whole season to the highest bidder and dramatically effected results and overall the league.

Quick question(s) towards those more knowledgeable in this area. Do / how do the above riders attain averages? I was always of the belief that if you guested as a home rider / away rider for a side that would form one of the 4h/4a for averages to be calculated upon? (as i said belief not known facts) If this is the case however it is feasible that an unattached rider could attain an average over the base 3.00 and therefore no longer be eligible to continue taking these bookings? If this is not the case then why would a talented newcomer want to sign into any teams 1-7 when they could remain a freelance 3 pointer and if scoring highly become a very desirable guest with an asking £'s per point total to match?

What are the rules regarding unattached guests and averages? I thought if home / away guest it counts as one of his 4h / 4a and an average would be calculated then? But I could be very very wrong?

Yup. Payne & Shuttleworth fair enough as injuries can happen at any time. Also not the best planning to have a home match on the friday then away to Eastbourne on the Sat.

Big shame for Eastbourne as this should have been a big crowd puller however with the mockery of guests etc it now looks quite flat. Has probably swung my decision to attend from very likely to very unlikely. Belle Vues team was always liable to have riders missing given so many double uppers but all 3 heat leaders is a bit of a joke.

If every club face charges for lying Speedway would close down tomorrow. The Saul thing was just badly conveyed and nothing would ever stick.....could have had work commitments, they changed but Eastbourne honored the guest they had booked, equipment not ready in time, race suit still having adjustments made the list would be endless.

Could be wrong but certainly looked like Jack Thomas blew his GTR up at Kent on Monday?

Wish Daryl all the best for the future. Ive given him a hard time in the past but he was a solid NL rider who never really got the chance to kick on due to injuries. Obviously if his heart isn't in it then its the right decision.

It was all about how Layne handled it. If he had waved or taken a bow fans would have laughed along. It was out of character for several Brum riders to be so gee'ed up so i suspect Mr Drury may have some influence on that.

Completely agree. Bit of banter amongst fans is great but heckling & booing is deplorable. Very nearly changed my forum name after monday night. Edit - have changed.

Anybody know which engine Jack blew up on monday? Looked like his GTR to me?

Agreed although he looked back to his old self on Monday & with much higher confidence. That said he is clearly struggling at P'Boro. I personally think he has what it takes to make it in the Championship but feel its the wrong home track for him to excel.

I think you would be wise to stay clear of Stoneman for a while. Accident waiting to happen. He has the brain of a hard top rider but lacks the skill set required to complete half the time and a step up a league would see him out foxed by more experienced guys and straight onto the injury list. Big miss was not securing a deal to get Bacon from P'Boro he looked sublime at Kent the other night.

There are plenty of possible permutations perhaps IOW operate how i believe all clubs should run which is with a pay bracket for the position you are riding at in the team therefore it would have been less £'s per point. Who knows but rightly those agreements are and should remain between Tyler & IOW only although i commend the promotion for not being held to ransom as im certain the last thing they would have wanted is to track a 6 man team. I definitely feel Govier let IOW down and if he wasn't happen with the situation should have declared earlier so another rider who would have been grateful for the NL ride could have competed as there are scores of riders looking for their break who would have ridden for almost nothing.

I was surprised that Greenwood missed out on the initial picks so not a bad signing. Think he has been held back with equipment over the past couple of seasons as it used to be top drawer but if he gets it sorted he could prove a very capable signing and certainly an improvement on Coles.

It never rains for the poor IOW side/promotion. Im assuming a minimum 14 day ban will follow for Govier although with his negative influence it might be better if it was longer. Such a horrible sign of the times that the promotion showed loyalty to 2 riders who many raised eyebrows about but stuck by them regardless only to have it thrown back in their faces.

Any reason given why Govier didn't ride?

Lets be honest £1000 these days is a new set of wheels, some covers & if you are lucky there might be some change for some new clutch plates. I know you would miss a grand if you lost it but in speedway terms its not a lot of money.

Only takes a quick look at the old green sheets to see the number of riders who have stepped away either due to finances or mostly because they were included in teams way too soon and became disillusioned with the sport and have stepped away. Almost the whole starting 1-7 of the 2014 Scunthorpe side are no longer riding. Its great developing new talent but pointless if they cannot be retained.

You are right there and looking at the bigger picture the most positive number is 20 125's so plenty of future riders. As you say its also good that riders give a class an extra year as far too tempting to be jumped up before the young lads & ladies are ready.

Good guest in Waj & if Carr can get his bike sorted he will go well as it was driving hard on the straights at Kent. Be interesting to see how Govier goes upon his return & guest of the moment Spooner scores.......fingers crossed he arrives earlier than he did last night.

Does anybody know if action was taken against Jack Smith after gestures made to the crowd last season? Sadly i think the precedent has been set after soft punishments during the Coventry fracas a couple of seasons ago? Very out of character for both Cupitt & Leek so both had clearly been fired up. However unless this behaviour is stamped out it will only continue to get worse especially when you consider the latter gestured directly at the referee.

Must have been a crowd of 700 plus last night which is pretty good going for NL side starting early on a Monday night. Sure plenty of clubs would be happy with that especially as there was a much smaller number of travelling Birmingham fans than usual.