Shockster

Maybe, but Surely Lindgren and Madsen in last 2 heats.

What was wrong with that start. Heat 11.

Exactly.

In principal you're correct, but just can't see it. If a rider gets excluded for dangerous riding then they were probably going out anyway if they were trying to slow up the race to help the guy at the back. They may as well risk it as it's really a no lose gamble. If the result was after 21 heats, we wouldn't be having the debate.

Don't think it will happen. There'll be uproar if someone gets kicked out at the end and even if the ref does exclude a rider then the danger has already happened.

Heats 22 & 23 could be carnage tomorrow unless a pair gate on a 5-1. Basically in those 2 races it's irrelevant who wins the race. The only thing that matters is not to be last, nothing else matters. It stands to reason then, that if you gate and your mate is not with you, you have to slow the race down. It's totally insignificant if you're passed by an opponent as long as you're not passed by both. I can see this going badly wrong and it's dangerous. Agree earlier in the thread about Zagar slowing up. It caused a problem, but you can't blame Zagar as he was "team riding". This is more the reason why the champions should be the winner after heat 21. Understand totally about TV etc and finals but this doesn't come into play for normal GP's.

he's on TV now

Mainly OK on Premier but did freeze a few times.

Ghostie, When can Hampel ride for Lejonen. Massive win for them yesterday? Thanks

Thanks R&R. Will do that.

Great match that. Shame I backed Czestachowa -8.5. Terrific racing. I'm in Wroclaw on Sunday 29th July and hopefully they'll be riding Czestachowa. When are the dates and times confirmed? Could it be on the Friday? If it is on the Sunday what's the best way of getting tickets as I know they can sell out? Cheers in advance.

http://www.maniak.tv/kanal-7 Seems fine for Czestachowa match

Just shows that sometimes all 4 should be brought back. IMO it was either Walasek leaning in or Protasiewicz making a meal of it. Not Zmarzliks fault. Probably blame Protasiewicz if pushed.

http://www.streamsports-hd.com/webplayer.php?t=Flash&tt=Polish Speedway&link=http://assia.tv/live/mix-sport4/?lang=pl Here's another. I had no luck with the other 2 today.

Lindgrens had a shocker. He's the difference between the 2 sides tonight and not in the positive. He's been so good so far this season, it's hard to know what's gone wrong tonight? Really surprised.

http://live.drakulawidget.com/streamvideo10/speedway-stal-gorzow-vs-wlokniarz-czestochowa-live-stream-4662713.html

Same here. Maniak not working for me.

Freddie is on fire. How much speed has he got? Fantastic to watch.

I agree in principle to what you say, but they're not going to get away with it anyway. Refs will pull them back if they jump. Also not sure about cheating being the right word more down to nerves IMO and who wants to see a 3 rider final when 4 is better.

Riders moving at the start came into play again here. I agree with the warnings system, but do feel once we get to the Semi Finals that all previous warnings should be quashed. If a rider does move in the Semi then he carries it over should he reach the final. Maybe it's me, but should a warning in a riders first heat hang over him in the final?

Thanks Ghostie

Why is Hampel not riding for Lejonen? Didn't he sign for them?

Fabulous heat 15 to foil my 6.5 bet.

Massive advantage tonight gate 4 and there is only 1 line right by the fence since the 3rd race. Still interesting but the home team looking good.

Pieszczek at 16 could make an impact. Not listed earlier.