Sidney the robin

I do think from 1968 / 1974, / Ivan would of dominated a series I, still think Briggs and others would of won certain other rounds though. 1984 onwards Nielsen with Gundo sniffing about Gundersen was better had his number certainly on a one off meting Hans would of loved a GP series still think Erik would of liked a series format ( ie knowing he could beat the Great Hans.

NO Geoff certainly not,,, but Ray was a class act i forgive him!!! Ray was one of the first riders who could beat Briggs at the Abbey in the late 60s on merit great rider tough as old boots top class as well,my uncle told me that from the beginning from his Long Eaton days.

You really are delusional ?? don't think so you keep on smoking eh!!!!

Over to you and yes it is a great topic and yes there are some really great people on the forum who contribute and add great knowledge and value.

FACT what a laugh you are you are so Funny Chunk !!! really take a deep breath god your arrogance is laughable.

Whatever not hijacking but won't ever bow down to you never !!!! think you grasp that fact anyway.

YES certainly so. !!!!!! Not because of your knowledge of speedway though, that i cannot dispute not in anyway not in any form don't like your way your arrogance.And the way you portray yourself in a way you are a fraud opology ( now and again) do you understand the word ??? NO probably not.

I move on but you follow certain people like a bad smell.

You are a sad individual have a real think ????

Really you are a real tool end of, and even if an opology is un genuine at least appreciate that somebody bothered to you never do it ever do you ?? You are such an arrogant so and so.Gustix/ Mr Hyam again i don't know him from Adam but over the years you have been nothing short of ( alongside Iris a bully) quite simple sad really.

Adult really???????? i have actually opologised to you endless times over the years Chunky to keep the peace no co operation from you EVER .John i don't know him from Adam but you and Iris have had a agenda against him for years shut up keep quiet and pick on me.!!!!!!!

God what a shock RIP Wilko!!!!

Really your relationship with Gustix ie) Mr Hyam over the years has been a joke.Myself personally I have made endless mistakes over the years mainly dealing with the likes of you.HELPING him Gustix really that is laughable really he could help you !!! your arrogance is quite amusing but hey anything you say is a laugh.

Really i can talk, to John YOU Iris forget it you have your own opinion

Chunky please take a step back !!!!! Av a think others might differ in there opinion consider that.

I think Ove and Hans would of won more titles in a GP format Norbold, for me those two named were better riders than Ricko.Sometimes we all forget just how good Jack Parker was and Stenners who named him as no 1 was really recognised and respected.

It would be very interesting to hear your views on that Norbold , the odvious one for me would be Hans Nielsen.In yesteryear i suppose Graham Warren would be mentioned and the immortal Vic Duggan who was stopped from winning the title for different reasons.

So was Ivan in 1973 along with Anders norbold, but we all know luck pays a huge part in sport.

Wish Ove would give him one of his.!!!!! 1972 if only Norbold.

I am sure Briggo won five ????

The first meeting you went to the 31- 43 contest Holloway scored five points from two rides then he broke a collarbone.Shields was different class in the 39 -39 draw i quite enjoyed my Groveway visits but sometimes the track was rough though.Milton Keynes when all fit and firing had a good top four Humphreys, Grahame, Harrison, Holloway but they were very rarely all available to click on the same day.

I didn't go to that meeting you mentioned 31- 43 to Oxford i went to the 39/39 draw later in the season Shields scored paid 15( max).

Remember going to a Oxford v Supporters select in 1978 ( Holloway scored 9) Shields got the lot he was really quick.If i remember rightly the future NLRC champion Wayne Brown rode also the veteran George Hunter as usual was as dependable as ever.

First see Penhall ride with Bast at White City in 1977 and i would never of thought he would of become a world champion by 1981.His first visit to Swindon netted him seven points with a heat win and he did look classy see him quite alot at Dudley and he really mastered that circuit his beating of Nielsen there in the helmet was a masterclass.

I really liked Shields he was very important in the 1981 season Salty .Also your point about Fryer and Nigel Leaver was spot on they both came in when they were learning there trade both made a really good fist of it and had good careers. Fryer (RIP ) was great value for Swindon in the PL a really exciting rider.