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interesting that Oxford have signed Masters/Nicholls & Kerr as their top 3 for 2023. Look a bit exposed maybe at botton half with Heeps/Jenkins/Atkins and Aussie youngster Killeen 17 who rode in their NDL squad but shows promise. Only mention it on here as kind of shows you what happens when you go for a strong top 3. Will be interesting to see how we line up in comparison at Poole.

For me would love to see Rew & Zischke. This Ziscke lad looks the real deal and only 16/17. Beat Pearson twice in finishing runner up to Rew in Aussie U21 Champ on Saturday Also beat Pearson in NSW U21 previous weekend when Zischke won their U21 title. Good style and all action and even Darcy Ward said he reminds him of how he was at the same age. Strong words. Bowes is in the title winning Lublin U24 midweek team for 2023 and Pearson & Brown will be Leszno U24 team for 2023. I think Leszno following the route of U24 - Then a season or two in Lge 1 before deciding if good enough to go in main Leszno team. Wouldn't be surprised if Leszno or another POL EXL side sign up Zischke before long. If I was impressed seeing videos of him I'm sure the astute Poles will be all over him just as they have done with a lot of the good young Aussie talent coming through.

Leszno are following the same route for Rew as they did for both Kurtz & Lidsey. Those 2 could not do the U24 Lge as didn't exist until last season. They have loanded him to Gdansk in Lge 1 for 2023 (Sunday track with odd Saturday),as it will give him that much needed experience against better riders than the U24 League. Will be mixing it with Kurtz/Musielak/Becker/NKI/Tungate/Bjerre/Basso/Jepsen-Jensen among others plus plenty of promising Poles. Will be good for him and if he progresses will join Leszno first team in 2024 just as Kurtz & Lidsey did. Or he could be loaned out for another season as by then will still only be 20. Not signed for his 2022 DK team or any other team in DK and squads are as good as done same with Swe. You can check all the squads on Speedway news POL. This frees him up for UK to ride hopefully both leagues with plenty of rides on most days of the week incl Tue when Poole ride at Plymouth if its Poole he joins.

See some Rew rumours building on the Forum. Notice both IPS/Peterb fans indicating he is signing both Prem & Champ sides with both sets of fans indicating he will ride for them. Don't care which one gets him as long as we get him in Champ. Would get lots of experience to compliment his Sun/Sat Polish rides which would be good as he will be riding a good few times each week over the 3 leagues. Anyway fingers crossed

Well he can't complain about lack of opportunities the last 2 seasons in both Prem/Champ. Still young and can turn it around but really needs to sort things out and get consistency. Hope he gets fixed up somewhere as not good to have what was one of our top potential future talents go unwanted by both Champ and Prem teams. Maybe a case of one who doesn't push on even with decent backing & equip. Look at Jack Smith - Parkinson-Blackburn - Bickley - Greaves and others who looked like they would do something but never progressed. Their are no doubt others who I have missed.

I think the Aussies associate more with UK as they relate to their hero's like Crump/Holder/Ward/Doyle who then go on to star on the World stage after initially riding and cutting their teeth on our more technical tracks. I get the impression the young European non English speaking countries probably relate more to the European/Scandinavian/DK stars so move in a more tighter geographical area such as POL/SWE/DK where they can combine POL Sun/Sat - Swe Tue and then drive over to DK for the Wed. Also I assume financially they make it work better without all the flying i and out of UK.

Would be great news if also with Poole. Makes it worthwhile financially to do both Leagues plus POL with Gdansk Sundays. Or even Saturdays when odd meetings. Most importantly is he would be riding Mon PL - Tue (a few times when Poole at Plymouth) - Wed Poole or when at OXF/Brum - Thur Prem - Fri at Northern Champ tracks plus the odd Sat Champ meeting. Gets plenty of experience and also a chance to race regular against top Prem riders. Let's hope it happens

Thanks for that. Rew is indeed a class rider. Have to remember he is 19 and think 20 around April and has resided in POL during the actual season last 2/3 years. Had a bad injury that put him out for a long time but last season it all clicked into place as his POL U24 scores showed. Well worth signing on a 5 and not having signed in DK this season or Swe could be a bargain on a 5. He has been loaned out by Leszno in Prem to Gdansk in Nice 1 for 2023 so hopefully will ride regularly on Sunday. Also NOT riding for Leszno in the midweek U24 POL Exl in 2023. Surely must be coming to UK and would expect he could well double up with a team in Prem. Seeing Tate ride in the NSW U21 Champ which he won last week excited me as his style is indeed like watching a young Darcy. The guy is only 16/17 and it speaks volumes if he did finish second to Rew who has so much more experience even at 19. I was also impressed at a couple of his rides in the DK Ist Div (Lge below their Prem). Even at 16 he looked decent. Think only did a short stint just to see what it was like. Indeed they would be a dream duo even if they take a while to get used to UK tracks. Would be gutted if we lost Tate to another Champ team.

Close Lisa. It's Tate Zischke. Been trying to find out how both he and Keynan Rew did in the Aussie U21 Champ Final in Gillman today. Can't find anything on UK or POL sites, or via Google and it finished a good few hours ago. Was live streamed but not keen on paying for overseas streaming services. If anyone knows would be good to find out. For sure I would think Speedway News POL will report all the details in next day or so as they are pretty good in giving full heat results and each riders scores. Would love to see both sign but I doubt we will be that lucky .

Yeah I just read the whole exchange . Interesting thought though as Dan T will be seeking a double up Team to compliment his hopefully Leicester slot in 2023. He is young at 18 and plenty of improvement in him. Must admit based on Danny Ford's teaser remarks I am struggling to find a team without my 2 Aussie idea's. Maybe Thompson provided an answer if it was only Rew and even then we don't even know if there will be one let alone 2 new Aussies . Just getting carried away at the possible thought Tate could be another in the Darcy mould, especially with Darcy himself making positive comments having seen him ride.

Following my last post on Rew & Zischke, I see the Aussie U21 Final is at Gillman this Sat 26th Nov. Both are due to ride according to Speedway News PL. Below was riders list as of 2nd Nov when they listed it. Be interesting to see how both riders perform. IM Australia U21 Final starting list: - Fraser Bowes, - Maurice Brown, - Tom Dixon, - Patrick Hamilton, - Lachlan Hayes, - Jacob Hook, - Liam May, - Jack McDiarmid, - Jackson Milner, - Teagan Pedler, - James Pearson, Keynan Rew, Cordell Rogerson, Harrison Ryan, Michael West, Tate Zischke.

Thought I saw a number of posts on it earlier in the season. Could be wrong but it stuck in my mind hence why I added the comment. Either way perhaps not beyond the realm of possibilities something could have been agreed as a season long swap arrangement for Lawson/D Thompson. Personally the thought of both Rew and Zischke would excite me more. REW already proved even at 19 he can do it in POL U24 with an exceptional av in that first U24 POL EXL season. As for Tate I have watched some Youtube videos and looked a decent rider in that short stint in DK Lge 1. Also reading the comments Darcy made about him reminding him of himself at the same age. Plus think he has been giving him advice. What really impressed me though was watching the video of last Saturdays NSWU21 title meeting where he beat Pearson twice on his way to securing the winners trophy. Bearing in mind only 16/17 he has a good style and I think worthy of a go as one for the future. Considering he already stayed and raced a while in DK early last season it wouldn't be his first visit to the Northern Hemisphere. Hope he doesn't get signed elsewhere. Could be of course he wants to finish studies and come over in 2024 ?? I can see why Darcy could see comparisons if you look at that U21 video. Look at how much distance he put between him and Pearson over the course of the race.

Interesting comment made by Bagpuss over on the Glasgow Forum. Rew, Dan T and Ablitt completing Poole then presumably. Only throwing this out there for opinion but, could it be that Leic knew ages ago they would be going up and with Lawson being a Poole asset since start of last season, could they have cut an end of season deal deal between the 2 promoters & riders of Lawson to Leic in exchange for Dan Thompson spending the season at Poole. ??. Also bearing in mind Poole intend to move up in 2024 to Prem, so Dan would just revert back to Leicester as he is their asset and Lawson back to Poole in Prem as he's a Poole asset. I'm intrigued by Danny Ford's dream Team comment. Plus he has openly said he already got a plan B and C in place, if he can't agree terms on his A team. If we went Worrall or King - Lawson - Both Cooks and if Rew is a 5 and young Dan is 5.09 rounded up after 2.5% Brit reduction you get 37.12 only leaving 2.88, really making Ablitt only viable option to get us 0.88 points short of the 40 IF we go that way. My reservation is would Danny want to come up that short on points total ?? We know Danny/Matt like the idea of riders who can improve their averages and arguably all the bottom 5 could do that imo. Would love to know what Danny's Dream Team idea is though.

Nice - Someone who likes the idea of my 2 Aussie picks. I said I would have both Rew & Zischke as I think they are the 2 most promising young Aussies coming through. Pearson is another who is with Brum for 2023. Must admit I like the above. Think 2023 will be tougher for us with the lower limit but then many facing similar issues. Top 6 gets you in play offs and certainly Rew and maybe tate will have ridden plenty of meetings to get used to our tracks by then.Good blend of youth and experience. Have had a look at some to young Tate Ziscke's rides and couldn't help but be impressed with his NSW U21 success at the weekend. Even kept Pearson off top spot to win the title. Only 17 and I can kind of see what Darcy Ward meant when he said Tate reminds him of how he was at the same age. Looks an exciting prospect. Got a taste of Europe with some meetings in Danish 2nd Div for a shot time last season. Believe Brady Kurtz followed a similar route as a youngster. For me Rew could be well worth more than 5, and still only 19 . Below is his av per ride in the POL U24 fiirst ever league season in 2022. Out of 11 matches - 54 rides he won 30 - second in 16 - third in one for ab av of 2.463 per ride incl bonus. That is 2nd out of approx 96 riders U24 who rode is this POL U24 ExtraLeague. Impressive figures for a 19 year old who I also believe lost a season due to a major injury I think a couple of years ago. Player m b 3 2 1 0 T AT In d pt b Mean 1 Bartholomew Kowalski 12 62 35 19 5 2 1 0 0 0 148 5 2.468 2 Keynan Rev 11 54 thirty 16 3 1 0 0 3 1 125 8 2.463

My money would be on Keynan Rew (19) or Tate Zischke. I've said plenty on Keynan who I think would be a good signing on a 5. As for Tate, I think he is only 17 and think available on a 4 ??. He is highly recommended by Darcy Ward and just learned he won the new South Wales U21 Title at the weekend. Also had i believe looking at Youtube a short stint riding in Danish Lge 1 in 2022, (the lower league used by many young Danes) and I think even Brady Kurtz rode in it in his first year in Europe. Darcy's comment about Tate was that he reminds him a lot of how he was at same age. That's got to make anyone sit up and listen . I'd happily take both of them as arguablly the brightest U18 and U23 Aussie talents coming through along with Pearson who will be at Brum.

Just announced today on Speedway News PL is Leszno U24 squad for 2023. Notice this season Keynan Rew will not be riding in the midweek U24 league (as he did in 2022 achieving the 2nd highest av of over 70 riders), as he has been loaned out to POL Nice 1 team Gdansk (normally ride on a Sunday). The relevance of this means he could ride in both Prem & Champ in UK in 2023. I have trawled through various forums on SWE and DK teams and 1) He has not resigned for his 2022 Dk team or anyone else and also not in SWE from what I can see. We know the Fords have been monitoring him as was rumored as a possible Poole signing before. Still only 19 and arguably the best Aussie coming through currently at U23 level ??, Assuming we would get him on a 5 due to his POL experience and also had a few odd rides as Leszno (POL Exl) number 8 last season, I reckon he would be a bargain. Could also be a long term prospect if Danny could get him as an asset with a loan out to say BV or Sheff in Prem on double up for this season ahead of proposed Poole move up in 2024. Just a thought.

Yes a couple of ways at looking at it. My idea is one way. Your idea seems to lean towards an Aussie with no UK experience which imo could be a massive risk if we keep Ablitt. Tate Zischke I think was mentioned as a possible rider of the future. Reading around the forum on other possible reserve combos would imo leave us horribly exposed at reserve and possible on the wrong end of many 5-1's with little cover in main team if called upon. Not unless he is another Keynan Rew . Could sign Brennan with the balance but I fear the lure of being in POL U24 League and Glasgow big bucks may swing him a way from Poole ?? Having said that is he not a local Sussex lad having raced all his junior/early days with Eastbourne. Suppose that could be a attraction to sign for Poole. Even with that I would have some fears with 2 guys with such youth and inexperience being our 2 reserves. A position which has yielded us big dividends over the last 5 years at least. Even youngsters who showed promise in Aussie such as Hook & Pearson as well as when Jed List came over for a while some years ago how difficult it can be for the really young guys to adapt. Its food for thought though.

Danyon Hume 5.68 (adjusted after 2.5% Brit reduction) Keynan Rew 5 ( A rider with a lot of potential if they could convince him to come as he will be doing POL Lge 1 next season as Leszno loaned him out for the season plus so far not signed on DK or SWE) Still only 19. Would put us just shy of the 40 points. What I like about this line up would probably allow Z.Cook/Hume & Rew or even Ben Cook to swap in and out at reserve. This important on 2 fronts as 1) Don't expect Ablitt still to pick up much in points & 2) All of the named could prove useful in replacing an off form rider as a reserve, plus taking at least one of Ablitts rides if we need him to in tight meetings. Just my thoughts.

I agree. I feel that we are becoming a dwindling number on the forum to be honest. Especially since we also dropped to Champ. Its becoming more of a case of a few hardcore die hard's who contribute these days. I know one young guy who was always on here and was a Poole fanatic, following most of the forums and social media sites and his knowledge of riders around the World was arguably the most exhaustive of anyone of his tender years. Even he seems to have moved on sadly. I said for a long time that the Fords were the masters of any UK club releasing news to the media for maximum affect. Its jut that last season it kind of dragged on and most teams were already known well before Poole's was finalised, meaning we near enough knew what it was well before it was announced. Be interesting to see who we can eliminate as others start announcing there line ups. A few already announced multiple riders even before today's meeting.

Only problem is that if you take 2022 for example most of us kind of knew near enough the full team well in advance if only by process of elimination. Virtually all Champ teams/riders were announced well in advance so you could near enough work it out based on what had been announced and the 2 point reserve had to be between my choice Mulford or the other reasonable option Ablitt. For me Mulford proved at B.V junior team in 2022 he was the better rider as he had shown back in 2021 when racing with/against Nathan. I had a particular interest in following both riders progress as they were near enough the same Birth month March having been then raw young 17 year olds. I think Jake wanted to concentrate on his grass track. Shame as K.Lynn even announced his as their number 8 before season started so they obviously saw the potential. Also know I keep going on about him, but checking all the news and forums doesn't look like Keynan Rew is staying with his Danish side and so far can't see him signed up elsewhere or in Swe. Is he really only going to do Poland ??. I'll keep dreaming

If the clubs already know what the team limit is for 2023 and assuming it is ratified today, I wonder if the Fords already know their team for next season ?? Danny near enough admitted in his Echo article yesterday points limit was already agreed and was just a case of rubber stamping at today's BSPA meeting. Also as there is no Bournemouth football news for the next month due to the World Cup there should not need to be any drip feeding of announcements having to work around Bournemouth grabbing the Echo sports headlines. As per usual I am sure they will still drip fee us to get as many headlines as possible which is also good for getting the news out with potential sponsors. Hope the BSPA give us the news on today's meeting asap.

Think that will be the plan for 2024 plus also maybe Brady Kurtz if they do move up to Prem, I assume all 3 still Poole assets but think Brady will find it hard to move from BV as now captain and he loves the track. Anyway that discussion is for next close season plus if we are racing in 24.

Now that Holder has just signed for a new Swe Team as per Speedway News POL, I can't see it happening. Could only see it if he had maybe doubled up with Prem to make it work financially. Let's hope that after the BSPA meeting (due Tuesday according to reports on here) that we at least know the points limit. I reckon both Prem and Champ limits already agreed in principal as clubs are already announcing riders in both leagues.

Whichever way it goes the Ford's are faced with one hell of a juggling act if it is 40 points as going to be difficult to retail the current 3 H/L. I think that's why a signing like Rew could be one way of overcoming it. i'm sure Danny/Matt probably already know which way the limit is heading and are already ahead of most in team idea/planning even this far out of next season.

I think that if the limit is as some rumours indicate, say 40 points then getting Rew on a 5 would be a real bargain. I also read on the forum last close season about Rew so I assume there is decent connections/contact between the Fords and him/his team (what with the strong Aussie connection). If you factor in rumours of a possible Prem return in 24 then could be an interesting move. Have no idea what accommodation they may be able to sort out considering Middlo has I believe both Cooks lodging in but would not surprise me if he came up with something for what COULD be the next Aussie big thing coming through. I mean behind Lidsey for now (he is 24 in Feb) but remember Rew is still only 19. As for Visa. Surely if the likes of Pearson and Hook could get one then you would hope he could. Again its only a dream/vision but one lives in hope ;-)