YeOldPitGate

I'm beginning to think someone running the mythical sixth team out of Oxford is looking the most likely outcome, maybe under Swindon name possibly, The Oxford stadium owner gets some money in which helps his situation, the other five promoters have to pay in 10-15k each to cover part of the expected losses. All they need now is to find a lamb to sacrafice that has 50-100k in its sheep coats ready for burning and its all systems go, the only other loser I can see would be Courtney given it seems speedway fatigue set in last season with fans not wanting to pony up to watch three teams.

Crazy prices for Speedway the last meeting I went to was a fair few years ago but was a world team cup qualifying round at Lynn, Hamill came back to help the USA out so I mainly went to see him one last time, it was £15 a head and there must have been north of five thousand there with a great atmosphere. I can't remember the year but £15 to £200 over possibly a decade is bonkers.

Plus don't forget Mike those polish tracks are like carpets compared to the pot holed ridden tracks in the UK.

Your normally on the money Phil but I'm hoping your wrong on this one.

If Flagrag is lurking do you have any updates your able to share as to whats going on behind the scenes good or bad ?

I think it was longer ago than that Mike in my view it started when Penhall retired, then Lee went off the rails, followed by the sad losses of Carter and Sanders in fairly short succession you had four of the biggest names gone in a few years and it just seemed to be the start of the downhill slide. I was speaking to one of my oldest friends the other day and we were talking about the year when Lynn had Bob Schwartz leading us and I don't think we won a match all year as we were so weak but like now no help was given to strengthen up. New greats did appear in Crump and T Rick and the Sky millions as we all know that was the golden opportunity to reset and stop the rot but was wasted by the short sightedness of those at the top who thought the golden goose would last forever and the number one's at the time hoovering the trough clean and once said trough was empty most left the UK for the new full trough of Poland. I would love to see a new crop of young Americans come through in the Penhall, Moran's. King, Hancock and Hamill mould the test match's against the USA were brilliant back in the day but sadly other than Steve Evans efforts the USA are in an even worse place than us which really does take some effort to achieve.

Don't think you will find to many crowing over Laguta in the UK Dean.

Also think there's merit in trying to forge stronger ties with Aus and the USA to try and help them get more youngsters set up they could send our way later, agree its probably to late with the Dane's and Swedes now as most of their better younger riders just skip the UK and head straight to Poland and with better money and easier logistics its easy to see why.

Keep near your phone this afternoon Dean I've heard you might be getting a call later about the size of your back garden and if its big enough to fit an Plymouth sized track in the back of it.

Nothing I can argue with there Bob as you say 600 houses or 2k per week, local council will be on board as its nother 600 lots of council tax probably in bands D to F. Didn't someone say at the Stars winter meet up that Buster mentioned Prem promoters probably having to put a bung in each to keep the top league going maybe they are going to offer Oxford 50-60k to go one more season. Like most on here I can't think of a defunct track that is remotely likely to be in a position to come back , I'm not in the loop these days other than what I read on here but is there any prospects with Kent seem to remember when Len ran it crowds were decent but possibly it fell apart when owner wanted big increase in the rent ? I can't really see any other championship side running two teams, unless say Terry Russell ran Swindon out of Oxford for a year before relaunching closer to Swindon he could afford to take a 50-100k loss on the chin maybe less if the other promoters subsidised part of the losses for a year.

Is anything happening at Arena Essex or has that been flattened for housing also ?

I think we just have to accept the days when 90% of the big guns rode here are gone, however it would be worth having a push on the SGP2 lads there are some great riders coming through the ranks and they may be tempted to the UK for 2-3 years to learn the different types of tracks over here whilst they try and work their way to the top.

I'm getting muddled in my old age Bagpuss so the Jubilee cup is still as big a myth as bigfoot and ufo's ?

I had forgot about Lawson I wonder where he will end up in the 5 team top league ?

Would love it to happen Iain but M.D has said many times its not going to happen and he should know better than 99.9% of the population.