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  1. 9 hours ago, Midland Red said:

    Reduced ticket prices

    Free tickets for schools

    Attendance:  over 28,000 v Accrington Stanley

    Lesson to be learned for speedway promoters?

    When I was involved with Belle Vue, we did a huge push one summer with publicity on local radio and the MEN newspaper for much reduced adult admission and children free. The results were overwhelming with double the normal crowd (though the same turnstile income as usual). We were so pleased with the out-turn that we ran it for the next week. The crowd returned to pre-offer levels meaning we lost a fortune. 

    I concluded that reduced entry pricing was unlikely to increase crowd levels on a long term basis - but were likely to bankrupt the business

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  2. Why wait for a full week at least for that.

     

    They can post their side if the story right here.

     

    And we would all be put right, straight away.

    Rather than wait and just allow public opinion to solidify against them.

    As it surely will.

     

    Edit ... Clearly there has been an unofficial reply posted.

    Not sure it is the same 'story' as would be provided by the promotion.

    One would hope it wasn't.

    I think the comments from Walter Plinge - I do not know who is behind that name - cover most of the areas of rebuttal.

    BSF is not the correct place for a formal reply to the article in the Star. That has to be through the same channels as the comments were made.

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  3. In 2011 - just after England had won the cricketing Ashes in Australia - Kyle Newman rode in three out of the four rounds of the Aussie championships. I think he was eligible to ride as he had won a state championship, but he was initially blocked by the authorities and missed the first round. When there were insufficient Australian riders available for the second round, MA asked him to compete. He and Steve Koppe drove from his base in Townsville to Adelaide - over 2800 km - to be met by a threat of a riders' boycott. The riders were over-ruled and Kyle competed. In the third round at Broken Hill, he continued to be ostracised and was given a place in the pits amongst the sidecars, not the solos. Kyle just kept his head down and said nothing. In the final round at Mildura, Kyle was amongst the solos in the pits, next to Chris Holder who was exceptionally supportive. Against the odds, Kyle won the B final putting him into the final, where, out of the referee's vision, he was bundled off his bike and unfairly excluded. As he was getting to his feet, an Aussie supporter shouted that he shouldn't have been in the meeting anyway, to which Kyle replied "at least we won the Ashes"! Oh yes, and the rider who bundled Kyle off? Rory Schlein.

    So, regardless of rights and wrongs, the addition of a cuckoo certainly adds to the conversation.

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  4. I will be bolstering the crowds at a youth round so that i can find Vatcher and have some very choice words with him. Would be nice if some of the beneficiaries from MDL racing could pop along too as a demonstration of the riders who have progressed through it.

    I believe the deadline was yesterday from team registration so i guess by now the fate has been decided?

     

    For the record, Neil Vatcher had no influence whatsoever in the decision that was reached by the SCB in respect of the MDL and proposed new SJL. The organisers of these leagues are aware why it was decided that the NJL format is the only acceptable one to be used.
  5. Supplementary Regulation issued this afternoon:

     

    The Speedway Control Bureau
    SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATION 2016 / 02
    Art. 15.14.3
    Art 15.14.3 (B) is re-written as follows:
    A rider in the top 3 of that Meeting’s Team by current MA (NB. A Team missing one of their top 3
    and using the RR Facility may use the 4th highest rider by MA)
    If a rider is disqualified for an offence under Art 15.3 then the Team Manger can chose either that
    i) The disqualified Rider starts in the same starting gate position on a 15-metre handicap
    or
    ii) is replaced by a Reserve (who will start in the same gate position from at the tapes.
    In the re-run of Heat 15 where a non-disqualified rider is unable to take part in a re-run (FN) then
    the place may be taken by a Reserve or another “qualified” rider.
    Issued: Wednesday 1st June 2016
    The Speedway Control Bureau
    ACU House Wood Street Rugby CV21 2YX
    Tel: 01788 565603
    www.scbgb.co.uk
    E-mail: info@scbgb.co.uk

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  6. Halifaxtiger - I am happy to answer the specifics you raise. Firstly, the way in which disciplinary matters are dealt with by the Bureau have been and still are closely scrutinised to ensure that any questions of bias are eliminated as far as they can be. In my limited experience, I am not aware of any bias having taken place, but I do believe it is important that any matters dealt with by the Bureau can be seen to be dealt with impartially. Given the situation that you outline with Glasgow and Somerset, any perceived bias on the part of any member - and bear in mind that I would be in a completely opposite position given my past involvement with Glasgow, and the good working relationship that exists between Poole and Somerset - would be discussed and resolved before any hearing.

    Secondly, the information about appeals is incorrect. There is a clear route to the ACU for appeals.

    Your comments on the relationship between the Bureau and the BSPA may have been correct in the past, but no more. There is a very detailed deed of declaration between these two parties, and the ACU, which makes the constitutional position clear, and it is now as I outlined previously.

    Finally, I am aware of the existence of the report by Lord Shawcross but I am unsure of its relevance to the current debate. Fifty years ago - the report is that old - there were rival promotions at loggerheads, and Shawcross was tasked with ending this. His job was similar to, for instance, a business consultant, parachuted in to help an ailing business. Such an individual needs to know about running a business in general, but not necessarily about any specific industry. Shawcross didn't need to know about the sport of speedway - he was needed to be able resolve a major dispute by bringing the parties together.

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  7. I apologise for my lack of ability to multi quote. You'll just have to bear with my attempts to respond to Humphrey Appleby's points, though, as I said, my comments were personal opinion, so wide open to being contradicted by the opinion of others.

    On the first point, does it matter if ACU exists because of FIM or FIM exists because of ACU? FIM is the ultimate rule setter and delegates its authority via the national governing bodies. It would still be around if there was no ACU.

    On the topic of former promoters, your suggestions as to who would be suitable would be interesting. You need to take account, though, that, under ACU rules, members have to be under 70. To be honest, I can't think of any former promoters who are under 70 who would able to bring a better insight than the current members, but I stand to be corrected.

    I think that we are in total agreement on averages. They have been used religiously for team building for many years, and continue to be so. It is my view that trying to find a weighting to adjust for the different race format that is fair to everyone, riders, promoters and supporters, is exceptionally complicated if not in face impossible, so I disagree with your second paragraph on this rather. And your comments rather contradict the idea that averages are the correct basis for team building.

    The heat leader list does not take away the use of averages. Nothing has changed in that respect. What has changed is the methodology for the fair distribution of riders.

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  8. So Blobby was correct then! Owned by Allied according to the link!

     

    Mind you, the same link also claims in speedway terms they're Man City. Yeah, because Man City chose to compete in a very average tier of British football!

    No. He was wrong despite his close connection to those at the top of BSPA who should know better than disclose confidential information. Especially when they're not in full possession of the facts. The Record's report is wrong, the Herald's more accurate. I have no idea which company bought the stadium, but I certainly did not transfer my ownership of the promoting company to Allied Vehicles.
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  9. If mr Pairman is still waiting on the cheque how are all the alterations going ahead something doesn't add up

    Please be assured that I am hugely excited and entirely supportive about everything planned for 2015. Any change of ownership is to do with the continuation of Glasgow speedway, not waiting for a cheque 😄
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  10. and just to highlight the point I have had fans of three other clubs tell me today, independently, whats happening at Glasgow next season plus another hint that something big is coming up (in fairness to the one who made a hint they didnt give any other details). The three independent comments contain the same information......

    I tried to PM you but it failed!

    On the future at Glasgow, your informants know more than me, and I still own the company I have the outline of an agreement in place but it is only that, nothing formal as yet. As soon as there is something to say, you won't be able to shut me up but, until then everyone, especially me, has to be patient

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  11. Reading between the lines of Gordon's post, are we to understand it was the young British riders who actually called off their trip, rather than those who had invested in it, and were trying to reorganise it?

    The information that I have been given bears out your conclusion but, as I said, I have only had one side of the story. I am sure that the riders involved can speak for themselves should they so wish, and, it would wrong for me to be publicly critical when I don't know all the facts.

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  12. If it had been possible for the Tour to have gone ahead then it would have happened. BSPA has put money behind it as have many others but what was needed was people able to provide accomodation, bikes, mechanics etc. In the past, this has been organised and often provided by Beverley and Marcus Williams but, with the uncertainty following the desperate injuries to Marcus, the riders, with one exception, decided not to travel. That was a huge disappointment to me especially as steps were being taken to try to make the Western Australian part of the trip continue as before but, as I have not spoken to any of the riders involved, it would be wrong of me to draw any premature conclusions.

     

    I have spoken to Kyle Newman, however, who, as has been noted elsewhere, is still making the trip to WA and the Scholarship will arrange for bikes to be shipped nearly 5000km to him. He is then making his way to Townsville and hopefully will find plenty of meetings to ride on the eastern side of Australia..

     

    Knowing Marcus, he will already be planning for November 2014, although I suspect that a different set of lads will be offered the privilege of being part of the Scholarship

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  13. There appears to be considerable confusion, here in the UK and in Australia, over this issue.

     

    As I understand it, several young riders have bought and paid for airfares, but have now been told their tour is cancelled.

     

    While it is truly unfortunate that one of the organisers has been involved in a traffic accident, surely others could step in and sort out matters to allow the riders to continue with their speedway education.

     

    Isn't this what the D&SB scholarship is all about? And what about people I know who have contributed to the scholarship on the understanding their funding was to help young English riders gain experience by riding overseas?

    The "organisers" are Marcus and Beverley Williams. They are the ones who have put up countless thousands of their own money over the years to create and support the scholarship and they are the ones who throw open their house to accomodate the visiting riders.

    Marcus was severely injured riding for Exeter at Newcastle in the 1980s and it is to his and Beverley's credit that they have been giving back to a sport that took so much from them.

    He has been working on the 2013/14 Tour since late last year and his accident is a huge blow to everyone involved, whether it's riders, sponsors or helpers.

    He now has to spend his time concentrating on getting as well as possible and I am sure Beverley's time is committed to supporting him. Under the circumstances, something had to give and that something is the Scholarship.

    I am sure that the invited riders are absolutely gutted at the cancellation but I am also sure that every single one understands what has happened and wishes Marcus a speedy recovery.

    I understand that there are steps afoot to try to reinstate some of the planned meetings but I have no further details at present.

    On the matter of funding, I am one of those that has contributed to the costs, albeit in a fairly minor manner, and there is absolutely no way that I would consider asking for repayment. The money has been spent and the bikes will be ready for next year - all I can hope is that Marcus makes as full a recovery as possible and is able to offer Tour places 12 months from now.

    If anyone wants more information, please contact me directly at gordonpairman@hotmail.co.uk

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